Recall that this was very early in my experience in the FSU. Of COURSE I would never compare, or expect to find the same situation, in Ukraine and Latvia today. Latvia is a member of the European Union, Nato and has a much stronger economy. All I knew back then was that both countries were part of the former Soviet Union and both seemed to have a lot of Russian women looking for western guys.
Contrary to what you write, a lot of Latvians WERE very willing to leave their country. The lady I found (and spent the week with) was working in a secretarial position in a bank and making all of $10 per day (higher than even current wages in Ukraine for comparable work but still no much).
SOME of Latvia is doing very well - other parts retain a thrid-world aspect. Latvia is simply 5 to 10 years ahead of Ukraine. Its my bet that in that amount of time Ukraine will be much more developed. Its true that the EU has become crowded and more "exclusive" now and may never let Ukraine in. That remains to be seen.
Jet,
But the Baltic States were never 'natural' countries of the Soviet Union or communist rule, they were 'occupied' countries and they hated the Russians.
Best thing ever to happen to Ukraine is not getting in the EU. Same BS hand wringing in the EU that went on that Let the Baltics become occupied, first by Germany than in a Secret deal with Russia to parce the lands up. Now the EU hasn't the stones to tell Putin to go to hell.
When know the strength of the Europe, you saw it in the Munich Accord, also architected by Joe Kennendy, Chamberlin and Daladier. Makes me wonder how much the Czechs love the English and France for selling them out.
I think some here need to go back and reread "The Gathering Storm". At least one Brit told the truth of what went on.
Taylor
Young guys are veiwed in the FSU as unreliable and only interested in sex and not even very good at that. As true or false as this might be it is very difficult to shake the stereotype. It could be best for you to wait a few years or longer before venturing into the world of love and passion that we have found.
Hey Addy.....always best to keep the competition down....so I'm for young guys to wait till fermentaing process is done.....a wait of at least 15-20 years............
15-20 years? Oh darn it! I guess by then I will probably have to use 'em little blue magic pills to even get excited LOL. Well thank yall for the advice. I guess I'll just have to deal with the bullshit American girls for now(don't be offended if you're American though cuz it's just my personal opinion!)
Martin,
I have been to Latvia over half a dozen times, and if you head away from Riga or the larger cities, there is still a lot of poverty out there.
However, saying that, although I love Riga, visits there have not always gone as planned either.Many beautiful ladies for sure, but mostly inaccessible.
Most people only see the modern and affluent side(relatively) of Latvia when in Riga, (or the seedy strip clubs) but there is most certainly another side to it as well once away from the bigger cities.
Well, I haven't been to any of those places, but I have been to Havannah, Or was that Miami, I'm not sure, Also have been to Mexico City, Or was that San Diego, You really can't tell the difference. I've also been to Paris, Or was that Winnipeg,, I'm not sure, it's full of French people that hate Americans,, All the same I guess..
yorkie,
You've just reminded me of my last trip there, My flight had arrived in Riga at 2330 so it was well after midnight when I arrived at my hotel ..... so off to the Roxy Club I went for a nightcap or two or three.
Well this, what I believed to be a, pimp simply would not leave me alone, he was 'in my face' so I moved around the bar, he followed me, I moved again, he followed me and so it went on. I had no idea what he was saying to me because he was either very drunk or on drugs, he barely spoke English, but I think I heard the words 'two ladies' thus my belief that he was a pimp.
Eventually I got angry with him and shouted at him two famous words connected with 'sex' and 'go away' and he still wouldn't leave me alone so I beckoned to the bar staff to get this guy the f*ck out of my fase. The chief bouncer arrived on the scene, with no disrespect he looked your typical Russian 'brick shitehouse' with shaven head, certainly not the sort of guy you'd want to meet in a dark alley. He asked me for my version of events, it transpired that he had observed this guy following me around the club, and with that he told the guy to leave me alone.
About 30 minutes or so later the pimp was back in my face and he would not go away, despite my strong language, so I asked the bar staff where the 'big guy' had gone, he was now frisking people coming through the front door. I just went out there, with pimp following, and said to big bouncer, with a smile, 'I've come to stand next to you'. I then taunted the pimp, who stood there open mouthed in mid floor to 'come on then' and with that 'my mate' went after him.
As I left the club later I gave 'my mate' a handshake with an LVL5 note inside my hand, I was at the club the next night also and boy was I looked after :)
Scotty....I'm sure you meant montreal instead of winnipeg, not many french in western Canada. How much time have you spent in San Diego? Sounds like you know it very well????? Maybe you were just having a laugh ........ hahahaaa
FYI...been to all those places but Havana...I'm sorry spelt it rong Havannah!!! All good!!!!!! :))))))
Hi beemer18,
I ll go to odessa within 2 weeks,
i m in contact with Liza23952:)
i think that i ll meet her....what can you advise me?
i don t have very seriouse intentions:)))
But did you have fun with her?
how is she?
from the photo...she looks georgous and juicy:)
Well Im 51, and the lady I am seeing will be 26 on Monday (31st) When I was last in Ukraine she showed me a pic of her dad, he was 2 years younger than me, but I fealt sorry for the guy, he looked old enough to be my dad!! seriously. Her mum is 5 years younger than me, but I knew I would not go all the way to Ukraine to meet a woman of my own age! I can do that at home, but then I would be settling for second best!! and why should I?
Hey Bino....I'll be in Odessa too, probably around 10th. I meeting up with a couple guys there. If you want too meet up too, let me know. It's always nice to not be alone there, also I think it's impresses girls if you know someone there. They always ask who it is.
As far as Liza, she is a nice girl, you will have fun. She likes expensive restaurants, loves posing for pics and tends to be drawn to clothing shops!!! Other than that, she may be bored. One thing I remember, as you walk down street with her, everyone turns to have a look and she loves every minute of it. She dresses very provacative, great body!!!! Not the cutest girl though. She usually runs with a friend named Irina and is not alone with you. Her english is very good. She will ask to meet you in odessa not her hometown. She asks for money to pay for taxi and she charges more than what it really is. I call her a shopper with a little goldigger mixed in, definately not a scammer. She is upfront!! Have a good time. I don't think she likes me cuz I wouldn't buy her something else!!!
Hi Beemer, thanx for reply.
i ll fly to Kiev on 5th april,
i ll spend a week there and after Odessa.
how many days are you planning to be there?
let's meet ....:)))
About Liza, i ll manage the strategy during the meetings:)))
but...you know what....she did ask me to meet her in Nikolaev!
about restaurant is ok....i don t like fast food:DD
but for shopping...i m not so naive....may be something....but little....not expensive...and depend of her answers:)))
Hello Bino, hello guys,i met Liza several times,
i've started to date her in the end of 2006!
She has great body, about face not so pretty,
but she's very hot:))
After our first meeting, i understood what she was looking for,
and i gave her some little presents, but i was showing my real economical status:)
so...was enough easy to get "her present";).
She's ok for fun, but be carefull, she asks a lot:))))
Hey Bino....I'll be there around the 10th for 6 days. I am staying close to Afena Mall and main street!!!
I'll PM you my cell number there, just give me a ring. Several guys to meet up with there. I am surprised that she asked you to go to Nikolaev...she loves the shops in Odessa....they're bigger!!! If she takes you to odessa too, look out for Japanese restaurant $$$$$!!!
Hey ilove...guess we have something in common...I came after you, I was with her last May. Have you seen her pics on army of brides??? Very nice!! Like she developed rather quickly!!!