Everybody has a different way of doing things I admire the way jet does it and the way Ben does it as well. You all just gotta be more tolerant of other peoples views and not take things to heart!
Brave, you put yourself in a position where you are comfortable with who you are and allow no-one to take advantage of you.
Don’t worry about the other guys she may have in her sights…let them look after themselves. You are not your brothers keeper.
You make your mark in the sand and don’t let anyone cross it.
In my experience; women are far more interested in a man who knows when to draw the line and has defined standards about how he wants to live and how he expects others to treat him.
Take it from an old man my friend; I’ve been where you are now and while I won’t say my case was any worse or any better, I will say that it was deeply painful ordeal.
Best advice I ever heard…walk away.
It's a completely logic reason to feel crappy... being blindsided like that.
Sometimes it's a struggle between determination and despair.. but always look forward...not behind.
When my wife left, people I barely knew were so kind to me, just because they had been in my shoes. Don't be afraid to reach out a little further for help. You can pass it on when you feel better.
It takes time to move on, let time pass and the pain and upset will become less, you can learn positive things from your bad experience which you can use to help you analyse future relationships and lessen your chance of another mistake, there is no substitute for practical experience!
Getting involved with a foreign Russian or Ukrainian woman, their culture and thinking is different, they can be very fickle and manipulative but so can a lot of women everywhere, you just meet a person who had what I call "bankrupted morals" and was a great actress...such people and the negative stories that arise from their behaviour and spread over the internet really tarnish the perceived reputation of Ukraine/Russian girls and make it really hard for the genuine real honest girls from these countries to succeed, it causes a lot of suspicion and mistrust amongst Western men, makes us very nervous and reluctant to go down this path.
The ones looking for male suitors on the internet, only handful genuine in intentions, handful not serious or committed and consider internet listing and dating as a dare and a game, especially the young 20 somethings and handful just plain scammers or liars ( or marriage/dating agency fraudjalant )
Its like everything..you have the good, the bad and the plain ugly when it comes to human nature!
Foreign dating/relationships has higher risks...its far more expensive in many ways and failure is high..it is a gamble and you choose whether to roll the dice for this or notas the man and on the flip side of the coin the foreign girl also takes a gamble with whom she meets.
I've reported her to UNCIS, the American Embassy in Kiev, and the Ukrainian Consulate in New York. We will see what happens from here. I just don't want her to be able to fool another guy into bringing her to America like she did me. You guys are awesome to care so much. I appreciate it more than words can say.
1. "...it causes a lot of suspicion and mistrust amongst Western men, makes us very nervous and reluctant to go down this path".
Nobody's asked you to. It might be timing to stop and look carefully aroung your neighbourhood, dont you think so?
2. "I've reported her to UNCIS...I just don't want her to be able to fool another guy"
How can you be so sure , she would fool anybody else? In a future she might meet a guy of her age, fall deeply in love and build a happy family life, who knows...
3. Where would you send her if you both lived in the same country? If you had not being able to ask for immigration authorities' help would you seek for your Mommy's help instead? Rhetorical question.
Firstly...number one on your list was not posted by me.
Secondly...I have no hate in my heart. Perhaps she will find a man to fall in love with. But she deceived in her intentions to come here and the proper authorites should know.
Thirdly...we did not live in the same country. She signed a letter of intent to marry, which is a legal document, which was false.
Its CLEAR that getting into the USA was a prize for her. And its clear that she deceived Bravehartq for that prize. She had no intention of being true to him. If she HAD it certainly would have taken her more than 2 WEEKS to meet someone else and fall for him.
Therefore - SHE at lest entered the US with fraudulent intentions - and SHOULD be barred from doing the same thing again.
I once had one that came to live with me in UK, within a couple of weeks or so the relationship was dead, she went to stay with an FSU friend living in UK and believed, because she knew it all, that she could stay in UK indefinately.
That was ..... until I reported the situation to the authorities and then the shit seriously hit the fan :)
Won't matter what she did to you in time...how much time depends on you.
You walk away now you get to the point of indifference quicker.
What you did was for revenge...right?...Oh dear. Not very dignified.
Should have walked away.
Kirkland...an obvious scammer should be reported. And you're right it shouldn't be out of revenge. But the sad fact is that a lot of guys looking for a FSU woman don't read these posts or even check her out on the Internet. I didn't.
She won't be prosecuted...there are way too many of these women with no morals for that to happen. And I'm not looking for the money she scammed me out of. But any man should report a woman who truly comes to America out of deceptive practices. If she applies for another K-1 in will be in her file and then the poor slob she tries to scam again will have that information.
Bravehartq,
I think the point here is that you are finding it difficult to get over her, to move on, and the more you continue with trying to protect the next guy, or USA, then she will remain uppermost in your thoughts.
As I mentioned above I went through a situation some 7 years ago, I did my 'traditional' bit of reporting that we were no longer together (hence her visa had become invalid) and, despite the obnoxious phone calls that I received from her and her best friend, I moved on.
You don't know how tempted I was to enquire of the authorities regarding 'what happened next' but I rose above it, of course I shall wonder until the day I die as to what happened but I moved on, these days I am very happily married, and I can only recommend that you move on also.