Nice try Oz......only he ( along with a couple other aussies)are only ones with problem...so maybe, just maybe, something is not right. or as someone else would say..."so mabe, jus mabe, somting knot writ."....................writing from sounds of words, lets not blame the site on this one!!!!
Russian men are much better men then the western man judging from what i read here . Never in my life have i had a man tell me my head is up my bottom ! you behave like an adolescent . Russian men my age have respect even if the woman is wrong a real man should not show spite in the way of name calling and abuse .
You know the discussion is about courting a woman , not what happens years into the relationship . Don't be a child martin you are a grown man .
the girl in the picture is natalia she is posing for the organisers off the competition . I'm olga not irina , irina and danny now run two hair salons she does not have the time to play games with men that behave like child .
from what i read you consistently abuse irina, a very clever lady you know nothing about .
irina has been through many bad times all the staff are happy irina found a good man to share life with .Everyone here is happy with the news they expect a child soon .It surprised all people how dedicated her partner is living here alone supporting her while in hospital and running the buisness in a country he knew nothing about .
An interesting philosophy 'the_salon' have regarding the giving of gifts to a lady. Apparently a man should not present a lady with a gift until they are shacked up together thus he is getting regular sex in exchange for these gifts. Mmmm, we have a word for that although I shall refrain from repeating it here.
And 'the-salon', men and women share equal status on this planet, indeed in the west women protested, and some still continue to protest, for a status equal to that of men but it works both ways. Women are not put upon a pedestal whereas they can get away with things that a man wouldn't be allowed to get away with thus if a man, or a woman, is talking rubbish then they may expect to be told they are talking rubbish.
I think this would be funny if it was not so obnoxious. We started out with a few men being abrasive to each other. Then we discussed the level of intelligence of each of them. This was elevated to what objects, animals, or people they resembled. Next an attack on any loved ones or friends and countries. Followed by the my gift is more effective than yours. Is not is too is not is too ect....
The discussion started out on an issue but turned to an attitude of I am going to prove you wrong no matter what or how long it takes.
Now I am sure these attitudes are not confined to this forum. So I will ask a question. If men with these attitudes find a woman who will love them, put up with them, stand beside them and fight for them should we criticize her or ask if she has a sister? Would you find this woman in the west?
Land of oz,
As far as I am concerned, what I have transmitted and/or received from danny and those ladies then you are so far off the beaten track it would be unbelievable were I not actually reading it.
In particular you say 'I'm going to prove right or wrong no matter what' but if you actually read what has been transmitted then you will educate yourself that having made mention of a fridge/freezer I purchased for my mother in law danny has repeatedly ridiculed my purchase and has repeatedly insinuated, insulted, that my wife is so 'cheap' that she can be bought for the cost of a cheap kitchen appliance.
Then, and what bought about my most recent exchange with those lady(s), was their ridiculous and immature statement that I and/or another would be taking a bottle of coke with us to put in that fridge/freezer. The subject of taking a bottle of coke was recommended by aussieman41 and indeed he has himself been ridiculed for such a recommendation and neither I nor the other those lady(s) attempted to ridicule have ever made suggestion that we would take a bottle of soft drink with us.
I raised constructive point(s) with those lady(s), in attempt to curtail their ridiculousness and childishness, and those point(s) were obviously too mature for them to deal with and they have declined to answer to them so please kindly explain to me Land of oz who I am trying to prove right or wrong? I'm merely, and vainly, attempting to input some sense in to them, I do attempt to hold serious, mature and sometimes humorous conversation on this forum however it becomes somewhat difficult when we have such immature posts being made by danny and those ladies.
Why don't you try being a man for once Land of oz, you always seem to be sitting on the fence or siding with the underdog and/or indeed the troublemakers, in this circumstance repeatedly defending danny and those ladies, try looking up and seeing what is actually going on rather than repeatedly trying to make yourself popular with the troublemakers.
Martin I said it the way I see it. In my opinion: This argument is not about a fridge, driftwood frames, the loved ones, the country, or the friends.
I do not think Danny cares if a fridge is bought for a mother in law or future mother in law. I do not think you care if a driftwood frame is made for a lady or if she gets help remodeling her house. It is simply a foothold to launch an attack or defense.
The comment the ladies made was "We think only take coke if your lady has a FRIDGE". That was obviously humor. You could laugh about it if you had a sense of humor.
And you are right Martin if several people are fighting against one I like to see his side of it.
So I still see it that members are pitted against each other. They are trying to prove themselves right and the other wrong no matter what. And that is all I have to say about that.
And Martin if it makes you feel better to call me not a man go for it. I could care less.
Oz,
You having a way of seeing things through very blinkered vision.
I have never suggested that my my gift is/was better than 'his'. At the time I made that gift, and a gift was not expected of me, the fridge/freezer had packed up and 'Mama' was sufferering some hardship. Now what would you consider the more appropriate gift to make at such a time, a replacement fridge/freezer or a bl00dy picture frame that that danny suggested would have been a more appriate gift to give?
I'm sure you're right that danny doesn't care if I bought a fridge/freezer or not, he continues to use it as a subject of attack against me, it is danny who is saying better or worse, not me and he is the one that will not let the matter rest so why are you not directly addressing him bearing in mind that you find it necessary to make complaint?
And that remark about the coke, well if you find that amusing rather than immature and childish then you really do need to get out more.
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Guys, to be honest, I didn't attend this forum often because I was bored. I was bored to read your arguments concerning giving gifts.
You know sometimes there are the situations when you must not ask anybody for advice. Anyway nobody can read your mind, nobody can feel the things you feel and THUS nobody can give a proper advice.
Everything that is about Love (if we are really talking about Love here)never has one side.
So please stop to judge each other like you know all the right answers.
danny,
Point me in the direction, please, of one single mature and constructive post by 'the_salon'?
They posted another of their immature posts the other day, I addressed them maturely regarding it, and they ran away refusing to enter into a mature discussion.
They are merely here to display their childishness and to disrupt the forum.
Me trying to drive women away? Am I trying to drive Julia away? No, my last post that I addressed to Julia was to thank her for something. And, from posts made around here, the only guy apparently trying his buy his woman is you.
And my wife can read anything I write here, there are no secrets between us, and having known me for 4+ years she knows me, and appreciates me, for being a reasonable judge of character.
why are you posting machine-translated versions of your messages?
I am sure there is no particular need for that since it's exptected that people who read and post to this forum have to know English.
If you are not certain that a particular member understands your message in English properly - you are welcome to send him a PM with a Russian translation.