To answer noogas original qustion, I would say yes.
Other Ukrainian women may wear a different coat, sometimes the wolf comes in sheeps clothing.
Personally I would rather have Monada with her openness anyday, than the Angel in your dream that lies in wait to bite you in the back.
The only successful relationshipships Ive heard of are of those that live with them in the country, a million miles from anyone else. If you live in a city, well in some form your girl will probably be like Monada and so you will need to know how to deal with them.
But Love their passion and good looks. Where else do you go???
Monada is very real.She expresses the thoughts of many,many ukraiinian women.They think and feel this way.It is a trap for them.Either the West because it destroys their sensitivity and is in contradiction to slavic soul and Ukraine as it is now because the living conditions are touch.
European men are without doubt closer to ukrainian mentality and they seem more intellectual and deep than american men.They are more complicated,have style and a lot of subcommunications.
American men have industrial thinking.
Anyway try to study the slavic mentality,slavic culture and slavic approach to things and when you become a bit of a Slav when the slavic soul has touched you,you may start to understand what is going on with ukrainian girls.
more, boys and girls. m father called us to introduce to his friends.
and later when we took him out to give vodka and suss information, my dear daddy told that those friends kill people for nothing.
meaning that he organise that for me and my husband.
as was going on, my dad confessed that he HATES me because 1,5 year ago I put him for 3 days in jail cs he bashed me, and I ended up in hospital.
police did nothing, they didn't open any crime process against violence of my dad, why know why?
becase I was not bashed enough - if at least I had one finger broken or hurt till blood - they whould do it.
lucky that was 3 days, cs they took him on friday and kept on days off untill on monday judge let him be free and pay 30 hryvna fine - 6 bucks.
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Yes,womens rights are not very advanced in Ukraine.However this makes them so eager to fulfill the desires of men,confess it.Women in Ukraine are like the sun,it never goes down.They are supposed to be there and shine whatever happens.
Violence is part of everyday life as well as touch negotiations.Women have gone through so much hardness that foreigners seem like soft babies to them.Welcome to the hard and exciting slavic world.
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It amuses me a little when my Ukrainian girlfriend comes home and tells me she met another Russian/ Ukrainian woman. When she tlls them she has an "english" boyfriend their eyes widen and the first question they ask is, the only question they ask is, "is he rich". I dont think the Slav mentality is so complicated.
As for Europeans, I am told the Ukrainian thought is that the Poles are unfriendly, the Greeeks are "Greek", The French are unfaithful, and the Germans are boring,just like their food. Maybe industrious is ok.
On the other side I do not understand a woman going to work and supporting a man that has no job and no intention of getting a job. Where is the womans sense of self worth?
I forgat to mention that the Ukrainians think the Italians are dirty and they the dont like the Turks or Woogs or Gooks or anybody else. Industrious is looking damned fabulous.
Yes,the point is that ukrainian women have unrealistic expectations.For example they think that the average wages in Germany is about 10000 euros.They regard foreign men far more wealthy than they are because the media present this picture.
I think russian girls have already found out the truth about foreigners,so the ones who really want rich husbands tend to search for the rich Russians.The ukrainian girls are to follow when the average wages in Ukraine surpass 600$ per month.(now they stand at 375$).
I would not rely on this falsely perceived image of Westerners as de facto rich but on the actual contact I would make with the girl,if she is really worth the effort or not.
Moreover if a foreigner marries a girl and when she comes to his country she finds out he is an average Joe,she will divorce him since her chances to find a better one will have been skyrocketed
due to lack of local female competition in terms of attractiveness and existence of many available attractive single men.
True Adman the Ukranian women are said to be the hardest working in the world! They call me and my friends the crazy Irish lol But crazy in a good way!If you find the right girl and treat her properly then you will find a diamond. I dont believe in all that crap keeping her on a budget making rules, she must get involved in my business and bullshit treat her like a human being and you will get it all back with interest. They are women the same as western women far better wired up but they deserve to be treated well ,we are all such great people judging them why do they lie etc As they say take a walk in my shoes sometime.......
Yes Adman,dream on.The ukrainian women dream of quality foreigners and these are the english.
My guess is that the same girls tell the Italians that they are sophissticated and English are plump,the Turks that Turks are hot and English are cold fish and the French that French are Don Juans and English are lacking in romance.
I would never be fooled by any of these preconceived perceptions.
Girls just judge by
1.Appearance,physical traits
2.Clothes
3.Voice
4.Proffession
and so on.They do not say oh shit he is not english,I do not like him.
At least you have the guts to try and do something about the violence and your father got to look inside a jail even for just a few days.
Unfortunately Rus & Ukr does not have all the violence to themselves. In my country there is plently of violence but luckly most is in the lower economic sector.
If given oportunity, the police here will do something about it but so often the woman will not testify and returns to the guy that injured them.
Some women seem to feel they are protected by a violent partner, somehow find it sexy, When in reality the only person they are ever likely to need protection from is their partner.
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You could be right they probably dont like the english either, I did say they didnt like anyone else.
They do seem to single out some for special attention though. A few months ago I was in Emirates Airline, with a cute young Russian girl. She was trying to change her return ticket to Moscow for a later date.
When the woman behind the counter said she could change the ticket and she would be stopping over in Dubai, the Russian girl said, "I dont want to stop in Dubai I HATE the place". Just to be sure she was understood (maybe she dont like the weather) she tells the woman at Arab Airlines "I dont like Arab type people"
I just loved the honestly )
I dont think your 1 to 4 list of what a girl judges is correct.
Most want to view Real Estate Portfolio and then make their decision
English people are of course people that live in,are maybe born in England usually of parents that also live/ were born in England, To speak of someone as English easily identifies to a person from wherever, the people from the part (major) of the British isles that is England ,In just the same way as one can be a cornishman, or woman or a yorkshireman or woman. It in no way implies a nationality and having re read the posts above I cannot see any suggestion of the term being used to suggest it is.
It a perfectly acceptable term to use, they have less ( but not much less) celtic genes and in general more germanic/norse genes than the welsh or scots,
It is true many,many girls do not like Arabs.in fact they know Arabs because some of them study in Ukraine.Some do not like Turks as well.Many do not like blacks,Asians etc,anyway Europeans(mostly) and Americans have an edge.The Americans maybe regarded as short sighted and shallow.
Europeans play in the same league except eastern Europeans of course.
Many girls like Russians,some do not but mostly they prefer russian men to ukrainian.
They do not like Serbs,Bulgarians,Albanians,Romanians and are careful about Poles.
Anyway I do not know why all this is worth mentioning.
No girl has asked me my real estate portfolio.They judge by what they see.Clothes,physical appearance,voice,culture and they ask
1.What job do you do
2.Why have you come to Ukraine
I read this in a different forum once, The person stated that these ladies dress very well, they would like a partner that would compliment them in this respect ,ie dress well and be well turned out.To be honest I will say I do dress up well good shirts nice designer clothes I dont spend too often on clothes but what I buy I buy to last. I jokingly said to my wife once am I like a accessory to you like your shoes or bag?
She turned around and looked me in the eye and said for some girls maybe not for me.
Adman. There is LAW in this country. but there's no system to make it work.
so.
forget about. everything whatever happens you have to handle yourself here. if like those stupid idiots on forum you (i don't means exctly you) or me, or whoever else will come to police or whenever and say "hey guys, I have a prob - I was robbed/bashed/killed/f...ed etc" everybody will laugh.
I remember when Quasi came here, every day he was picking smbody laying or falling on street untill I start to be crancking. Now he doesn't even notice.
this place is okay. it's mild. but it's cruel at same time.
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violent partner???? Man violent to woman is the last coward on the Earth. I've seen too many of them.
it's too painful to see around.
I'm okay with agressiveness but it must be directed into useful activity like business and work.
Violence by men against women, hitting, striking or threatening..unacceptable and uncivilised behaviour, I can't abide by it and there is no condoning it, its just not on, men who hit and bash women are gutless cowards and pitiful excuses as human beings..I can stand proud I have never hit a girl in anger ( I have never been slapped either ).
If one of my friends bashed his wife, he would get a hiding from me,a good thumping to knock sense back into him!
I am real sorry for you, Monada..man who bash women like this sickens me!
my lady friend was bashed by maniak at 10 p.m. near door of her building when she was coming back from work.
He was bashing her to death. and after finish took the hand to check if it's moveless like dead.
people passing by told "how it's possible to be drinked to this condition".
finally she ended up in hospital with broken head bones and brain damage that surgeon didn't guarantee that she will be alive and not paralised. they demanded relative to sigh the paper for operation. No husband, nor mamy-dady (alcogolics), nor parents of husband did it. She stayed alive only bcs her old sick grandmother came and put signiture.
She stayed alive and all good. her hair was shaved and during healing she was asking her husband to buy for her wig. 60 hryvna. 12 bucks. YOU THINK HE DID????
Her husband never gave a fuck about her, nor money. she was groing a child. working. leaving in same apartment with husband and his parents. HAVE YOU SEEN 1+2 soviet apartments?????