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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > How to Live and Meet Women in Ukraine Author Post beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/13/2012 2:00:45 PM   I accept your compliments!!!! :-) Don't read too much between lines.... yes i am jealous!!! ;-)) You are lucky guy at moment, my best, congrats!!! I am a businessman also....looking at how to put pieces together.... As you and others.....what type business can work in ukraine? Most often I heard heard the 'english school', I heard the 'on ground investigator' both which lack enough work to be profitable. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/13/2012 2:54:03 PM   Business in Ukraine? I think we should open a new thread. I'll go first. ;) apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/13/2012 3:34:33 PM   Well I can't control jealous of others, but I know you have sincere intentions beems. Yes, I am a very lucky guy. I cannot say enough great things about my fiance. Yes, I treat her not only like my princess, but I treat her like a royal queen (her words). But then again, this is the woman who I wish to marry, to have a family (with kids), to love with all my heart, to cherish and support. I am glad she is of the most solid moral standards I ever encountered in a single female in this entire world. (She has saved herself for marriage and never has lied or schemed on me). Of course flashbacks to the other women who are not like her crop up from time to time like some PTS (post traumatic stress) episode and I fly off on her for some very small slight she put me through (forgetting something, or not doing things that help serious relations, etc.) But that is me and my insecurities from past bad women and her own lack of relationship experience. Is it perfect? No. Is it awesome and worthy of jealousy from the reactions of men I see when she is holding my hand everywhere we go together? Well, I don't like jealousy, but its a normal human behavior between the haves and have nots in this world, regardless of what it is one has and doesn't have. I just know that living right, doing the right thing and being in the right place at the right time is what this thread is about. I wasn't the first man my girl had met through the agencies, but I hope to be the best and last and only one for her. oustabout Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/17/2012 3:37:39 PM   Hey guys,, I am here seeking advice. Thank you in advance should you choose to entertain my request. Here goes.... Where is the scam in the dating websites operations? Do the girls not really exist; is there unreasonable cost involved in getting to the point of communicating with a particular person without paying the agency to do so: What is it? My motivations for looking elsewhere for a wife are manifold, but here are a couple of biggies... Firstly, I do not want a self-proclaimed princess, and American society has taught women here that they all are God's gifts to mankind. The majority are of the opinion that it is perfectly acceptable to sit around doing mostly nothing, not take care of herself and become fat, not bother to educated herself beyond reality TV shows, that life is based in drama, and that if she wants it the man should buy it not matter how ridiculous the purchase may be- and men should be happy with this attitude, because she is, after all, woman, and there is no higher being. Secondly, most (not all, but a majority) are rooted like a pine tree, and I am setting out this fall to travel abroad for an as yet undetermined period of time, going I don't really know where: Wherever the wind blows me, living for while where I like it, then moving on to see somewhere new (gaining a true sense of each place, not just a tourist perspective). So a large percentage of girls who are serious about a long-term relationship are not an option, and i am not looking for a mere travel companion. I will provide a third, which is a real source of irritation: I am not a friggin checkbook, I am a person. Should I be looking in Ukraine? What I read are that girls from eastern Europe are generally well educated, have a strong sense of family values, aren't drunks/druggies (party girls), and do not entertain the opinion that men are here to serve them but rather they are looking for a partner in life. Is my information accurate? Thats enough for now, from answers those questions I can get a feel for what to ask next. Thanks again. mikedavidg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/20/2012 8:08:46 PM   VNVnation I would like to know how your busseness is doing and about your experiance in finding a good woman. This post is a few years old now and I just read it. Thanks. enricos666 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2014 2:06:33 AM   hi guys I live know 1 year in Odessa. iam 38 years old and make buisness here. To Odessa comes many people in summer from USA England..... most are from Internetsites . Guys a pretty Girl have never Problem to find a boy. When a 20 Year old Girl meet with a 50 Year old man, than because he have money. and 99 % of the Internetsites you can forget. You spend only your money . you come here they fuck you and send you back. I see this many times here. When i sit in cafes in Center he tourists bring presents and the translater cost 50 $ for 1 houer. Here gives many Rich people . most guys here have 2-3 girlfriends. you dot must be Rich for that. When you dont drink every day Alcohol and beat the Girl .Than she is happy. I dont speak good russian but i dont have Problem to meet girls. Importend is how you look, your dress and if you are sympatik. when i go in cafes discos i dont have problem to meet and have fun with a 20 years old girl. I dont spend much money for her. When you want find a Girl for married , its not difficult to find a 10-15 Years younger Girl. Its normal here . But not from Interentsite. You must come here stay few weeks and have a friend here . when you dont have friend here or someone who goes with you everywhere forget it. you lose only your money and time. When my friends comes from Germany and we go Discos , cafes we find everytime girls. 20-25 years to have fun. When you dont have friends or people who help you here, forget and dont come. 80% of the girls are clever Bitches and wait for stupid Tourists. and one thing more. when you are in a internet site and many young girls write you. forget it. In no country in the world a pretty girl writes you, and when many girls write you, than this site you can forget. You want fun Party Girls come here when you not a conceited ass. we will have much fun and you find a girls. Please for notice. i dont need from someone his money. I like partys and girls and meeting new people from everywhere in the world. i was in many countris in the world . but ukraine is special. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/28/2015 7:55:52 PM   "try datebride, charmingdate etc." From someone who used the site and was in Kiev at the end of June: Look guys! I have been to Ukraine 15 times. As a matter of fact, I am writing this review from the Fire Inn in Kiev. I have experienced my fair share of disappointments while on CharmDate and their affiliate sites in Asia. So far, I have wasted at least three trips to Ukraine and Thailand to meet a woman. You are going to run into a lot of... women on this site that are working with a local agency to suck as much money as they can out of you through chats and letters. Many women have been given a computer and this is their way of generating income. Since the war in Eastern Ukraine started, many women have moved to other cities like Kiev and have no other source of income. Beware of any women from Donetsk, Luhansk or any other eastern Ukraine city. On this current attempt, I am in Kiev, but so far, no luck meeting the women I came to meet I have made contact with the agency, or someone who is claiming to be with the agency. Tomorrow (Monday) I will know for sure if she is another scam. I have had some luck on other sites in meeting real women and I have worked with independent match makers. I have met at least 25 women over the last 6 years or so. Always make the woman prove to you that she is real by photo or video. Never send flowers or other gifts unless you get pictures back with the women that the delivery has taken place. I think the agencies are the bigger actor in the scam. All these professional modeling type photos do not show the real woman. Demand natural photos. All ladies are required to write a standard introduction letter. They are very general and the site inserts your name to personalize the letter. The agencies send our masses of letters to men just like a big fishing net. The woman has no idea they are sending the intro letter. They just want to get you on the hook for more letters and chats. Now there are many women that do write personal letters. You can tell when a an agency is sending out a broadcast of letters. You will get multiple letters from ladies in the same city. This is all done by people at the agency, not the web site. The web site is just a platform to make money, but they need the local agencies and exploit women without work. Recently I have been told agencies are going into cities like Luhansk and Donetsk knocking on doors to find desperate women. They give them a free photo session and laptop and put them to work. I am playing the game too, just to make sure I meet a real women. Before I travel, I set up several dates so that I have a chance of meeting a real women. Like today, while one woman says she is sick today, I set up a dinner with another women. I have had women who I met lie, and I have kicked them to the curb. And they are all gorgeous. I think the conditions in Ukraine make women do things they may not normally do just to survive. You can be sure to meet many women by signing up for the tours. A Foreign Affair has many to choose from. And I do not work for them and have never taken a tour. Too expensive. Bottom line is, there are some real women, but only a few honest ones. The web site is just a vehicle and it is the tactics of the agencies that make these waters full of sharks. The women are told by the agencies never to give out their contact information because the money flow will end if they do. Use common sense. No twenty something or younger wants to be with a old fat guy with grey hair. They are sitting with you for the good time and gifts. Try and find a older women over 35 from a small town in Western Ukraine. Stay away from big cities and eastern Ukraine. If you want to play, Kiev is full of strip clubs and Bangkok has many Soapy Bars and BJ clubs. Stay away from the chat on Anastasia.com. They rip you off by accelerating the timer. I did a study of my time and they steal 15-30% by make the chat timer go fast. Then even if you do find a honest women, which I have, she may be too afraid to leave her family. That has also happened to me. Hope my rant includes some worthwhile information. Gotta run and buy some pink roses and get over to Davinci's Fish Club for a date with Oksana, a over 40 women. I think the best bet is to just come here to live and retire. Then you can meet women the old fashioned way, by meeting them through friends, the fitness club, or church. Good luck guys and don't believe one word. Make them prove everything. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/28/2015 8:32:14 PM   Nothing new in this,,, in fact,, it is with pace of 5 to 7 years ago. Get a real photo with the flowers and gifts?? That only proves that she held the flowers for a few minutes,,, I have a hand full of photos to prove that. There is nothing real when it’s only online. poppy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/28/2015 10:51:23 PM   Spoken like a true dip shit TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/29/2015 9:35:20 AM   dcguy you are right in choosing a reasonable age difference but you are premature on the pink roses. What if she's ugly or you don't like her? Then you've wasted time and money getting the pink roses. You also set an unreasonable precadent for other guys that they have to do the same thing. I always find that an elaborate restaurant and meal is not necessary on the first date. I don't want a girl that's always eating eating eating or thinking about eating. I don't want to fatten her up either. I've seen so many guys do that. They get a thin Ukrainian girl then they take her out all the time and she then becomes what they no longer desire (fat). On a first date I propose simple places like Coffee Life. There they can get a simple coffee or tea with a cake or buscuit. If she kicks at that or demand to be taken to an expensive place then that's indicitive of things to come and she's probably not the one for you. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2015 9:24:45 AM   Dc, the guy you reference appears to still be learning expensive lessons. He still doesn't recognize the flower scam and thinks romance tours are an actual viable option. enricos666 seems to have learned how its done. Like Tom says, an expensive date with a girl you are meeting for the first time is a fool's errand. Picking a girl in which you constantly need a translator to communicate is also stupid idea. I still dont understand certain words not often used but those are times for google's help and not a $10-15/hr extra expense especially if that person isn't on your team Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2015 9:47:45 AM   Business in Ukraine, what can you do? actually several opportunities exist for a real entrepanuer particularly as tech type fields continue to grow. there is still a shortage of reliable and trustworthy computer and cellphone repair centers rental shops especially now are in demand from specialty tools to box trucks. There is opportunity to invade existing markets with better service and quality than available although all these things i mention takes an investment of varying amounts and obviously a commitment of time in country dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2015 7:43:32 PM   TomZ I guess I should have placed quotes on my previous post. The discussion about charmingdate.com does not apply to me. It is from another person who was in Kiev during the last weekend of June. He is the one going to Davinci's Fish Club with pink roses for Oksana. I do agree about not going to an expensive place to eat on a first date. But, I think some people have it in their minds to impress the date by going to a fancy place. And of course, the agency will be trying to direct you to such a location. Rick4girl I guess after 15 trips to Ukraine, he still is a novice? Maybe he is repeating some of the "advice" often seen on the dating sites about detecting fake profiles? Does anyone have this type of device and if you do, is it any good with communicating with the lady? http://www.ectaco.com/ECTACO-iTRAVL-NTL-2R/ dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2015 8:14:13 PM   Here are my observations to the questions from over three years ago: Where is the scam in the dating websites operations? Answer: It is everywhere. Basically, providing a "mirage" for you that does not exist, just to string you along and empty your wallet. Do the girls not really exist; is there unreasonable cost involved in getting to the point of communicating with a particular person without paying the agency to do so: What is it? Answer: Some of them do actually exist. To avoid the agency, you can communicate through social media sites or use free dating sites. But, even outside the agency, there are scams a plenty. Whether the cost is unreasonable depends on the person's finances. My motivations for looking elsewhere for a wife are manifold, but here are a couple of biggies... Firstly, I do not want a self-proclaimed princess, and American society has taught women here that they all are God's gifts to mankind. The majority are of the opinion that it is perfectly acceptable to sit around doing mostly nothing, not take care of herself and become fat, not bother to educated herself beyond reality TV shows, that life is based in drama, and that if she wants it the man should buy it not matter how ridiculous the purchase may be- and men should be happy with this attitude, because she is, after all, woman, and there is no higher being. Secondly, most (not all, but a majority) are rooted like a pine tree, and I am setting out this fall to travel abroad for an as yet undetermined period of time, going I don't really know where: Wherever the wind blows me, living for while where I like it, then moving on to see somewhere new (gaining a true sense of each place, not just a tourist perspective). So a large percentage of girls who are serious about a long-term relationship are not an option, and i am not looking for a mere travel companion. I will provide a third, which is a real source of irritation: I am not a friggin checkbook, I am a person. Should I be looking in Ukraine? What I read are that girls from eastern Europe are generally well educated, have a strong sense of family values, aren't drunks/druggies (party girls), and do not entertain the opinion that men are here to serve them but rather they are looking for a partner in life. Is my information accurate? Answer: Most of the image of traditional family values and family focused are not necessarily true in Eastern Europe. You will have gold diggers, drug addicts, hookers, people with psychological problems, school dropouts, and career focused women in many countries in Europe. As I have said before, everybody wants to move upward, not downward. Some people will use devious tactics to attain this goal while others may have more of a moral conscience. As most of the others have stated before, it is better to meet people directly rather than just through online venues. Is Ukraine a better location to search for potential mate than other countries? I have only been to North America, South America, and Asia and I would say that women, for the most part, are similar in character, attitude, and expectations regardless of location. Ukraine has, for better or worse, been targeted as a place to meet women since the breakup of the USSR. A cottage industry has grown and "blossomed" with the dating business. But as with anything that expands and spreads out, it is bound to start attracting "garbage" elements eventually. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2015 9:04:00 AM   Wow,DC, you said a mouthful and much of it is accurate. If you go about your search with the usual suspects then expect the potential for disastrous results. People are the same everywhere with both good and bad in every country. The reason why Ukraine is so popular is because we still have the best looking females in the world so the chances of finding a good one that is well above average is better than other places. 4re_geo Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2015 2:45:50 PM   "The reason why Ukraine is so popular is because we still have the best looking females in the world so the chances of finding a good one that is well above average is better than other places". Rick4girl: no way Ukraine has "the best looking females in the world". It sounds patriotic, but not true. Have you been to many other European countries? I would rephrase: Ukraine has good-looking women that give above average attention to men, some are also willing to accept older boyfriends than women do in other countries. I think, overall, there are prettier women in America and the rest of Europe, but they also have higher standards in terms of looks, personality, financial situation, etc. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2015 12:34:31 AM   "The reason why Ukraine is so popular is because we still have the best looking females in the world so the chances of finding a good one that is well above average is better than other places". With all respect to all ( especially the ladies ) this is an over rated statement... Like an old saying " beauty is on the eyes of the beholder". Here in the new world aka the Americas, you can find a DIVERSITY of beautiful ladies. People are people, so it is what it is. There's good and there's evil here and there. There is no discrimination on this matter, ,,,,kind of like the Hunger Games.... May the odds be on your favor. The internet would give you a fuzzy picture of the situation. The best way to get a clear perspective of the mission, is with your own boots on the ground. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2015 12:51:34 AM   FSU women just look good whenever they go out,,,, most American women don't care, or are too lazy to make the effort. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2015 2:37:22 PM   Maybe looks aren't everything. But, I for one have been enjoying the scenery of the women wearing shorts in the summer. 4re_geo Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2015 2:46:54 PM   "FSU women just look good whenever they go out,,,, most American women don't care, or are too lazy to make the effort". lonelyranger1701: Not true, it depends where you go out. From my standpoint, I prefer light or no makeup on a woman. In fact, I find ridiculous the application of a lot of makeup that makes the skin look totally flat and unnatural. Often times the woman's skin looks like dry mud. Natural beauty beats the hell out of any effort to look good when going out. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > How to Live and Meet Women in Ukraine
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