DYOR mate you are being well and truly had over, sorry for you but get wise to this crap.
Done this taxi ride many times, used to give my regular taxi guy 40$ tip (taxi trip of a lifetime every time in terms of white nuckle ride... absolutely awesome and not to be forgotten events)and it still only cost me 120$ both ways... DYOR...
Well, I think it's a shame this thread died, resurrected 10 months later only by our friend Trvelinman, currently in Odessa being scammed for sure by the sound of things.
Vkontakte is the number 1 social networking site in the FSU. It's completely free, no adds, has 57 million members, and works, I met my girl on this site 2 months ago, she now lives with me here in Rivne. Just about everybody you speak to here is either a member or, at least, heard of the site.
So, it's duly added to the list, if anyone still cares.
Congratulations, trvelinman. You found a genuine, living, breathing six-cylinder Ukrainian vampire. You were an ATM machine to her. Of course, I can't congratulate you very strongly, because there are so many of them about that it's about as difficult as finding a beer can on the side of a highway.
I just looked up car transfer between Nikolaev and Odessa, $160 round-trip. $20/hr would have been generous for the interpreter. And of course, she could have done it much more cheaply by bus.
As for the peck on the cheek, such a simple kiss is very traditional in that part of the world. Even between men! It is not a big deal. I have had a few pleasant first meetings, where we said goodbye with a kiss on the cheek. So your trying to kiss her was not obnoxious or "way out of line" -- she just doesn't give a rat's ass about you.
What's really sad is that some of these fine women talk quite frankly with the interpreters about what they are doing, even in front of the victim!
If the "lined up" apartment in Simferopol is more than $50/night, then you are almost certainly getting hosed there, too.
I know it sucks, but you have only lost time and money. It can and does get worse. Keep posting, at least when you have escaped from Ukraine. If this trip doesn't cure you of the whole concept, you can ask some of the battle-scarred veterans for tips on planning a future trip with better prospects of success.
Sorry, old chap. If it's any comfort, a lot of decent guys have been through the same wringer before.
The director of foreignladies is Joe Nail.
Joe is an employee of AFA.
Same profiles, same profile #.
Same altered photos.
Same pre written letters.
Same letter writing scam.
Nasfanny,
Your advise / statements / rubbish, is all over the place.
Have a look at what you have just said to him.
Don't use a service that has a pay per letter charge. Even the ones that are legit and using agencies will be brained washed.
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Agencies are a business............Just like scammers the MO is the same.
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Well that's great advise.
Even this site has the same women as the pay -per-letter agencies.
Agencies work with scammers, scammers work with agencies.
Don't want to be scammed?
Get an independent interpreter/ English speaking guide.
Find a Travel agent.
I think the one in Odessa is Diligence travel agency, or something like that.
Good luck to you.
Perhaps if the lady wants to line up an apartment, the way to handle it is to negotiate the price before you get there. Ask her beforehand how much the apartment is that she is going to get.
Same with the interprter. Perhaps, you can also do without the interpreter, or at least, negotiate it when you get there. I spent a week with a woman who knew very little English. I used no interpreters. A computer interpreter would be enough or even just one or two hours of a live one.
Craig Sutton I see comprehension is difficult for the ignorant Aussie. You can't read very well can you?
You got your ass scammed just like dungsing did now it's the womens fault for your stupidity. I love it.
I never used an agency past the letter writing. Also let me let you in on a little secret, Fiance.com isn't an agency nitwit.
Leave Crazy Craig alone, this thread is apt for him to post in because he talks a lot of www.aslavgirl.com as being the best site to meet real ladies, he tried it and, I understand, he had a fantastic time!
The lady in question did not travel from Nikolaev - she was in odessa all along. I can say that with reasonable certainty even without knowing the people involved. The idea that a lady would travel all that way and risk being out of pocket a months salary and/or stranded if the man didn't show is laughable. I mean even with the best intentions how does she know your flight wont be canceled etc etc.
A classic scam (and yes one I have been victim of myself in the past).
Remember danny, I don't evern own my own home, so how could I have money? You try to bribe your lady and she kicked your ass out. I bet she's alive and well in Chelny, she figured you for a tosser and sent your ass a packing. Funny since this tragedy you haven't been back to Chelny but you sure as hell made it to the bath house's of Thailand. Which of the 40 addresses of mine would you like danny?
Micheal,jamie,craig,carol, I didn't use an agency or a translator and I haven't had to look for a woman for about 4 years. I didn't get scammed out of money like you, you retarded mongoloid. Also retard Fiance.com isn't an agency please go find their location in Russia or Ukraine, please go to their agency. You're an absolute idiot.
They are a clearinghouse for agency letters, actually you pay less her to contact women than you do through agencys. You used a agency and got your ass ripped off just like your retarded butt brother danny. What's it cost an aussie to find a woman in Russia or the Ukraine at least 30k
Why bother wasting your time, CC would recognise a fact if it were staring him in the face!
I recall, when in his jamie1964 guise, and he complained, and complained, and complained of a Nikolaev agency 'aslavgirl' that scammed him but on their website is their registered address in Phoenix.
Despite him being aware that they are a Phoenix based organisation he continued to refer to them as a Nikolaev agency. I googled that Phoenix address, I provided him with the information that multiple dating organisations, including AFA, are registered at the same address.
Since then he refers to aslavgirl as an affiliate of AFA, he simply doesn't understand business, if their registered address is the same as AFA then they are not an affilate, they are the same thing as AFA, it is another trading name of AFA, I've explained this to him and still he continues to refer to them as an affiliate ..... but then listening isn't his strongest suit as you may have observed!
Hi mate, sorry, there's a wanker or two on the pitch, to continue our discussion have I mentioned that I'm considering selling the house that I own and moving on, I'm not one to brag but did I mention the 5 vehicles that I own, 2 Opel Kadett GSI's, a Bedford Astramax, a Hyundai and the Smart Roadster and did I mention the group of companies that I am the 100% shareholder of? ..... I guess not because I'm not one to blow my own trumpet unlike others, including those that claim to go tropical fishing in Thailand. :)
I have herd that the UK law is very bias against the man when it comes to property settlements concerning relationship breakups.
If the woman you pretended to be married to, had not run off to live in Spain, but instead came to be with you in the UK. Then you could now be giving her half of all you own.
Maybe more, Ive herd of settlements in the UK, going 75% to the woman.
No they import tropical fish at a 10k a week profit. Besides owning charter boats, fish and chip restaurant and cabinet business, then the monthly visit to the Thai bath houses for rub downs from little boys. Still hasn't went back to Chelny as he claimed he was, but was stopping at Israel first. Nope he's made it two Thailand twice since that tragic day in May.
Jesus, just when I figured danny as the biggest idiot ever to appear on the forum Micheal,Craig Sutton is by far the clear winner. He's just plain stupid.
Well it took him a while but nasfan figured it out eventually. :)
P.S. 3 going on 4 of my trips to FSU were business trips to my company bank(s) and how much do average people, one's like us that can afford to of course, spend on their annual or twice annual holidays, so my holidays were to FSU, whoopee doo, let's shout something from the rooftops!
Does this sound familiar nasfan, can you think of other Aussies that have complained that they can't afford to travel to FSU? Figure it, a guy spends literally every cent he has avaiable on a trip to Nikolaev, he is an accident waiting to happen and it surely happens, he arrives back home again in a rage and who's fault is it? ..... Well it's your, mine and jetmba's fault of course!
I wonder if Craig might have posted a set of darts to Ukraine also!
But he's got if figured now, he won't get scammed again, because he's registered with Army of Brides ..... one of the most notorious scam organistions out there!!!
I know that a lot of dating sites are exists.And you speak about 7 only.
I have some girls among my friends, which have been registered in such sites.
And if you have an interest about certain site - I would ask their)