I went to the bar last Saturday and had a 23 year old blonde cutie acting crazy because I like socializing with many people. She thought I was 26 so probably thought she was being cute. I go out rarely, but when I do I am not in a good mood and out to get drunk and pick up a girl for a night, not make a love connection.
"I do have better things to do then entertain garbage ... Start panicing because inlaws fly in from Moscow in 4 weeks... For 3 month vacation..... Best thing the wife said I can live at my mates house ..... Will be having titty shows if anyone wants to drop by "
I think some of the issues why guys can get frustrated with women in general is because the lack of women skills. Women are women regardless what country. If you're having trouble getting good dates/love in your own city, most likely you'll have trouble in a foreign city as well.
Allow me to share my experiences. 12 trips to FSU from California. I personally met 7 women, some more than one time. I filed I-129F petitions for two of them. One Russian "fiancee" just got scared, I guess. She chickened out on moving from Siberia to Southern California. Maybe it was something about me, but she did not say it. Instead, she wanted me to move to Russia!!:)) The other "fiancee" has her family in San Diego, about 120 miles from me. After we got engaged, and I filed the petition to bring her to the U.S., she rarely replied to my emails, and when she did, she said about two lines and that was it. After four months of this rather cold treatment, I contacted Homeland Security and withdrew the petition. I have been at this looking in the FSU since 2007 and am very close to getting out. I have been contacted by over 3,000 women, some of whom were scammers, many just players. Not many on these sites are sincere. The women claim that men don't come and visit, yet they play all kinds of games themselves. I'm glad to read that some of you guys have been successful. I tink most who try to find someone do not. I'm an example of numerous attempts. I think I could write a book on my trips to the FSU, all about "My Russian Loves."
Peace to all!
There is no secret. If you cant get girls in your country then its doubtful you can get a girl in Ukraine.
If you are attractive, arent broke and know how to treat a girl then you wont have a problem.
You arent going to get her to marry you on the first trip either. Any relationship takes time and effort
Agreed, Rick4girl. I went three times to see the woman in Ukraine whose family is here, in San Diego. But after all of that, I concluded it was a sham; she just wanted to be here, with her family. She had no interest in me as her "fiancee" after I filed the I-129F petition. I think she got overconfident and thought for sure she would be on American soil. My other fiancee, from Siberia, backed down after I filed the I-129F, but still wanted me to move to Russia. I declined. Besides the factors Rick4girl lists, there is also an element of "luck" for anyone trying to find a good woman in the FSU, just as there an element of luck in finding someone in the USA. May we all be both good and lucky:)
Behappy2day.com and Onewife.com are the same, and both are a scam!! Both have been written about on the forum a lot in the past. Search for Behappy2day.com on the forum!!
They are famous for the old “bait and switch”!! They lure you to their city with one girl,,,,, then try to sell you meetings with others while there.
They are based in Tver’, Russia. Many of their girls are from Tver’, and they sell “full package” trips! Airfare, taxi, apartment, and interpreters.
I caught my girl there in several lies,,, it was very disappointing.
RussianCupid.com is the new version of Russian Euro.com I spent a short time on that site, and it was a “Who’s Who” of the scammer world. The girls would fall in love with just a few letters,,, or relatives were always sick,,, or they are just a few hundred dollars short for their Visa to the US.
Agencies have one use, and one use only. They serve as a spoke. A place where women who are definitely interested in meeting a foreigner can register her name, information and photo, as a profile. And the agency can contact her.
Thats it.
Anything else should be considered highly suspicious. Anything else is simply an attempt to extract money from your wallet.
Romance Socials USE agencies simply to invite the girls listed to a Romance Social. Once there the girls are untethered from any agency influence whatsoever EXCEPT for those who cannot communicate without the assist of a translator and may feel comfortable and insist on translators from HER agency. Other than that a girl can meet you, go off with you, give you her phone number or email address - anything she wants and the agencies have NO CONTROL over her or the communication.
And agencies HATE Romance Socials exactly for this.
I have a friend with an agency in Poltava. He hates Romance Socials. And he will trash them any time he can. Because a Romance Social is the easiest way for him to lose girls and lose all money making control over them.
Same with an agency owner in Mariupol - a woman I don't trust or like - she works with AFA to provide girls for the Romance Socials from her listings. I know that AFA pays her for her cooperation - as well as other agencies in town. But she trashes AFA Romance Socials on every occassion. SHe doesn't want to lose her girls or her control. She would much rather that you work through HER providing PAID services of course.
You're right,Lonely Ranger. I was on RussianCupid and RussianEuro, both for a short time. Many scammers. And I would receive letters "out of the blue" to my home email address when I was on these sites. Naturally, of course, the woman was a stunner but wanted money for "translation" fees:) What BS. So far, after several months, I have not run into any scammers on fiance.com
What a load of dog shit is the above posting from jetmba. coyote.
The agencies don't give a fuck if the woman is genuinely interested in meeting foreign men, as a matter of fact, most women listed with agencies are not interested in foreign men to meet. Her listing with an agency is for making money, nothing else but money..
And hey, jetmba has been pissing on every tree in the FSU countries for the last 10 years..He's got it figured out, right! ( laughing my arse off )
AFA don't do ANY BACKGROUND CHECKS on any of the women on their websites.
AFA don't give a fuck who ( the women ) turns up to the socials, just so long there is numbers to keep punters like jetmba entertained.
And hey!, theres free food, free drinks, free prizes and music for the women..Not to forget how AFA use their own taxis to pick up the women and take them to the socials.
Why would AFA need to provide the taxis?
Because It's in their $$$$$$$$$ interests and AFA will make the money up from the correspondence after the socials.
Because you will still need to use the interpreter to 'talk to the woman'..This is where AFA have got you...And everyone makes a buck from the punter.
Just ask jetmba...He's been doing it for 10 years and he's still cuddling up to his Teddy Bear at night for company.
ha, ha, ha, ha...Natasha the Teddy bear..ha, ha, ha, ha....
Is there anyone out there who has actually read even a single one of "smart a"'s posts, who doesn't understand why he can't get a date under any circustances?
"Dumb a" are you too dumb to realize I actually was KNOCKING agencies?
And free drinks and food for the women? They are lucky if they get a glass of champaign and a little square of cake. Did you think a BANQUET was provided?
Prizes for the women? The most I have ever seen given away at a Romance Social was two refrigerator magnets, and a cheap bottle of champaign. That was ALL the prizes. For the WHOLE Romance Social. (The girl I was with got one of the refrigerator magnets.)
"Because you will still need to use the interpreter to 'talk to the woman'.." I (and MOST of the men) only go for English speakers. Only once in ten years - and for ONE DATE did I use an interpretor. I think it cost me $15. Spread that out over ten years and AFA translators have made $1.50 per year from me, on translators. BIG BUCKS, right "Dumb a"?
How else will they make any money on the correspondence? I get her phone number and email address. How do they make a dime?
You have admitted in the past that you never went to a Romance Social. Now how about admitting you don't have a CLUE as to what you are talking about?
Oh yeah - and translators aplenty are offered during the Romance Social free of charge for the duration. So the ONLY time you need to hire one is IF you happen to choose a Russian/Ukrainian ONLY speaking girl (and I never have).
And after the Social you can hire a student, or the girl can bring her friend, or you can wing it and try your best.
FIVE or SIX years later - "Dumb a" is still crying on a regular basis because the girl he met on his ONLY trip to Ukraine, wasn't what he wanted. He blames AFA for not doing a backround check. WHAT kind of backround check was he expecting?
This is real life. If you meet a girl in a BAR is the bar required to have done a background check on her, before they let her in? If you meet a girl at the mall or at a grocery store, do you expect that the mall or grocery store did a background check before they let her in? Sometime you have to use your tiny BRAIN "Dumb a".
And sometimes you have to stop blaming everyone else and look in the mirror and realize if their was anyone at fault it was YOU!
" Oh yeah - and translators aplenty are offered during the Romance Social free of charge for the duration. So the ONLY time you need to hire one is IF you happen to choose a Russian/Ukrainian ONLY speaking girl (and I never have).
And after the Social you can hire a student, or the girl can bring her friend, or you can wing it and try your best."
Another ranting, meaningless post from AFA's best repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat customer, jetmba. coyote.
Of course the scam interpreters would have to be free at the bullshit socials, why would the desperate old men pay for a social and then pay for a interpreter at the social?
Have a look at the recent tours photos and see the food and drinks set out on the tables dickhead.
Maybe you didn't notice the food because a serial sexual/desperate creep like you is checking out the twenty year olds to impress with a $9 dollar necklace.ha, ha, ha, ha, .
You wrong about me blaming AFA for background checks, This 'no background checks' is more proof that AFA don't care about who or what is listed on their sites or attending their bullshit socials. All AFA cares about is scamming men with their fake profiles of young 'single' women in Bikini's or with Tits hanging out. Have a look at their website, the bullshit is on the left and right hand pages.
I know that AFA 'president' will lie to protect the scammers that are listed with bullshit site. He is a pathetic cock sucker who will do anything to make a buck.
I know that a person who calls himself 'Jim' from agency scams will protect AFA and help AFA by removing the mistakes they make in exposing themselves as the scamming- fucking fakes they are.
And dick-head jetmba. coyote doesn't want to understand this because he is desperate beyond belief and he will spend all his money in 'happiness' pursuing young women from 3rd world countries...But..if you ask him, he's got it all worked out and nobody has a clue about anything except him..And he's still single after 10-long-fucking-years and 25 -35 trips in 'hot pursuit' of a big dream that will cost him all his money, for what?, a couple of fucks?
Jetmba.coyote is a 57 year old cockhead who still thinks he's 'got it' with the girls..His name on the forum should be, ' The Wanker From Wisconsin '...
Jetmba,,, Yes,, people do read his posts,, and it’s a good thing too, because he knows a hell of a lot more about agencies than you do!!!
“A place where women who are definitely interested in meeting a foreigner can register her name, information and photo, as a profile. And the agency can contact her.”
Smart a is right! The agencies and most of the women don’t care about finding men for marriage,, it’s just about the money!
Jet,, how the hell can a married woman, or a woman involved in a serious relationship,,, be serious about finding a foreign man and marrying him???
“And free drinks and food for the women? They are lucky if they get a glass of champaign and a little square of cake. Did you think a BANQUET was provided?”
Jet,,,,, have you ever been to a romance social?? Have you forgot about the drinks that the men buy??? Men who attend these socials and are looking for a “good time“ which is most of them,,, are more than happy to buy drinks and a meal, with the hopes of increasing their odds!!
“This is real life. If you meet a girl in a BAR is the bar required to have done a background check on her, before they let her in? If you meet a girl at the mall or at a grocery store, do you expect that the mall or grocery store did a background check before they let her in? “
If a guy meets a girl in a bar in his hometown, she is most likely known by many people,, and will have a good or bad reputation,,,, but when you meet a girl in a foreign country,,,??? Socials are a place for the pros to feed!! Women do not go to a social or join an agency for only one sincere/genuine reason. Some might consider a guy if she thinks he is a good catch,,, but will use every guy until that time comes!!
Looney: You are a PILE of misinformation - kind of like a cow pie. Let me tear your stupid post apart.
"Jet,, how the hell can a married woman, or a woman involved in a serious relationship,,, be serious about finding a foreign man and marrying him???"?????
WHERE did I say that a married woman involved in a serious relationdhip was serious about finding a man? What SHOULD have been obvious to even one so dense as you are is that MY girl had no desire or control to be with the agency that listed her. But her PICTURE and information was used anyway - in promotion to entice men to write. If one of the men paying to send letters - indicated he wanted to come to Mariupol to see her THEN they would make first contact with her - and she would have said (at the time) "I don't WANT to meet a new man. I am already involved (with me)." SO of COURSE she wouldn't agree to meet him!!
Didn't you GET IT when my girl tried to have her name taken down three times that the agency was NOT ACTING according to HER WISHES????? It is acting on its OWN to make money - and will only try to contact the girl AFTER the man says "I am coming to town." At that point it will try to get the firl to go out with the man - but in many cases the girl is married or attached and NOT AVAILABLE. GEEZ Looney - I hate having to explain simple things to you.
"Jet,,,,, have you ever been to a romance social?? Have you forgot about the drinks that the men buy??? Men who attend these socials and are looking for a “good time“ which is most of them,,, are more than happy to buy drinks and a meal, with the hopes of increasing their odds!!"
Its a DISCO - its not a restaurant!!! And they don't have food items available. You CAN'T buy a meal. Is it finally sinking in to you? The ONLY way to buy a meal is to leave and take the girl to a restaurant. But the man will have little incentive to do that because then he will miss the REST of the SOCIAL!!!!!
Looney - JUST STOP wiring about something that you don't have a CLUE about. I have been to six or seven and you haven't. Your guesses are STUPID and they are just GUESSES. Leave reality for the people who have experienced it.