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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Honest or Scammer Author Post lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/30/2013 1:50:11 AM   Moya,,,, asking me for months in emails,,, then on the phone in Ukraine!! What part of,,,, “How soon can you meet me?? “ Aren’t I understanding???? The 7th girl was the only one, that I knew chatted online from time to time,,, and I still wrote to. I sent her an email when I arrived in Nikolaev, and I sent one every hour. No reply! Then I checked the website and there she was,,, chatting! The 4th girl might have actually been sick,,, but I didn’t hang around long enough to know for sure, the 3rd girl had me quite upset. Also,,, the 3rd girl took me to the club where the 4th one worked as a cook. JohnnyUtah Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/30/2013 3:43:22 AM   One email every hour??? I think I know what you're problem is. Read my last comment for clues. moyarishka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/30/2013 2:51:53 PM   JohnnyUtah, +1 I agree with every your word!:) durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/30/2013 6:12:17 PM   This thread has had some entertaining moments. Like junk food, it's poor nutrition but fun to eat. I want say a word for my buddy, lonelyranger (yes, we argue -- but it's not because I don't like him). The past few days here is what (in American football) we call "piling on." lonely has had more than his share of rotten experiences, in the quest to find love in foreign lands. I don't have any reason to think it's because he's creepy (or at least, any more creepy than the average of the lads here -- think about that for a minute!). I guess he has some blind spots concerning who to trust, and who not to trust. But probably a lot of it is down to luck. As an illustration, here's an exceptional success story, known to some of you. My friend knew who he would marry within a few months of starting his search (needing only one trip to seal the deal), and was married to her in his home country than a year after that. That's mighty unusual, as far as I can tell! Now, he's an intelligent guy, has really good intuition, and went about his search in a disciplined way (taking care to guard against his own weakness) -- but he freely admits that he was damn lucky to find someone who was so compatible, and really sincere without games or pretending. Look at danny, God bless him -- I rejoice that his dream has come true. He made no secret of what a long, rocky road he took to get there. In my favorite sport of auto racing, we sometimes say "it's better to be lucky, than good." Time and fate have their ways of tearing people down ... no need for us to help. I wish lonely good luck -- as I do all of my crazy correspondents on this forum. JohnnyUtah Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/30/2013 7:07:47 PM   Dude I get where you going with it but when a guy corned to public forum and blames over 10 girls (ironically giving each one a number) you don't need to be a genius to see a pattern here. From what I've read he comes across as extremely neurotic and overbearing. He comes in town and expect every girl to put everything on hold and focus all their attention on him. And if she doesn't he gets mad. He was nobody to her, just some dude from the Internet. She had zero obligations to him and after reading several emails in the row she did a right thing bailing out. What kind of a husband material is that? If I was single I wouldn't reply to a girl like that either. Sounds like psycho to me. See the problem is that FSU is no longer what it used to be in the 90s when an old men could have get any girl he wanted by just waiving his passport at her face. Situation there is still crappy but it's not as bad as it used to be. Many women prefer their country to some hick town in a flyover state. Besides there is more completion with all the social media and ease of travel restriction. So now getting a hot Russian wife is not something any retard from the U.S. can do. But they keep on trying. Why do you think they go "fishing" to towns that people in that country don't know anything about? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/1/2013 12:43:42 AM   J-U, Moya,,, One email per for the first few hours. I then showed the waiter her photo and name, and said I’d be in my room. I came back down later and then found her online chatting. Her excuse was that she needed to stay at work longer than expected,,,, and thought it was too late to travel across town? She told me that work ended at 8:00pm,, I found her chatting at 11:00pm! To be chatting online, she needs a computer and a internet connection. She told me that she had her own computer,,,, or,, she was at the agency. If she has her own computer,,, she could check and respond to her emails! If she was at the agency,,, then traveling around town wasn’t a problem! Either way it was wrong or a lie. She was online, she could have told me that she wasn’t coming. Why does everyone need to make excuses for these women. Is common courtesy just a western thing???? RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/1/2013 1:25:54 AM   LR: I remember when you first posted, you beleived you had the world by the tail. I hoped that you would be lucky on your first try, however I truly believed you would find out the hard way the many vultures out there that just wait a for new "fish" to post a profile with an agency and that you were naive. Now you have matured and understand that the scammers are prevalent very cunning. Then next lesson for youis that many posting here revel on the failure of others, deride and get pleasure from their failures. The purpose of this site is to give advice and assist others in their quest. When they pile on you, just ignore it. Take the good advice and share your experiences in hopes of helping others. You may find what you seek. "To thyne own self be true". JohnnyUtah Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/1/2013 2:14:14 AM   You're reading too much into it. Again she didn't feel like talking to you at that time and didn't want to hurt your feelings. Girls do it all the time in the US. You just need to learn to not take it personal be patient. Her world doesn't revolve around you and you're just another dude from the Internet until you two are dating. Realize that and stop expecting courtesy all the time. Maybe she was going to come but after receiving several emails to remind her to come she changed her mind. Who knows. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/1/2013 2:29:43 AM   Durak,, I’m not amused! Ever since I started the “gun control” thread, you’ve been on a non stop smear campaign against me. You have even followed me from thread to thread like danny does, taking the opposite view or trying to discredit everything that I say. I don’t know who to trust??? Not true,,, and it’s very simple,,,, don’t trust ANYONE!!!! I get reminded of that everyday. I’ve had more than my share of rotten experiences?? Maybe,,, or do I just share more than I should??? Two or three times in the past few years, I’ve asked YOU to have a talk with danny,,, to get him to stop harassing other members,,,, your answer has always been: No! You said that you didn’t want to get involved,, you didn’t want to take sides, and when people go after you, you still won’t get involved. Danny is intelligent?? Oh okay,,,,,,,,,,,, then lets use some of the standards he has said on the forum. If you don’t find a mate on your first trip or two you are a loser?? Durak,, how many more trips than me have you made?? If you don’t find a mate in one or two trips,, then you must be some creepy, old fat American loser?? Durak,,, how fat are you??? “I want say a word for my buddy, lonelyranger (yes, we argue -- but it's not because I don't like him). “ If you are a friend of danny’s, then you can not be a friend of mine!! That goes for anyone and everyone who might read this over the next 100 years!!!! Danny is like dog $hit on the bottom of hiking shoes,,, you can try to scrape most of it off,,,, but it’s still going to stink for a long time. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/1/2013 2:37:22 AM   RT,, I didn’t post here until after my first trip to both Russia and Ukraine,,, but I believe I had read some of it before my trip to Tver, R . I knew things weren’t right weeks before I left on my 2009 trip,,,, other people had similar experiences with “one-wife/behappy2day.com” too!! So far,,, the only info from the forum to be accurate, are the negative stories! No,,,, I was battle tested and scammer hardened before I came to the forum. I was on local dating sites for about a year,,,, never set up a date and only found one honest sincere person, but she was my age and had adult children with no plans to have more. Most of the women that wrote to me on local sites, were either older than me,,, or younger Russian women posing as American,,,,, all tricksters. It was easy for me to spot them because I was married to a Russian woman before, and I knew the way they wrote. Sealed the deal with just one trip and married in my own country in about 10 months (1998-99)!!! I now know that was stupid!!!! The first foreign dating site was Russian Euro,,,, Wow,, what an education!! Everyone girl was a scammer,,, most were bold and impatient ones too! One was patient and I almost fell for it,, she sent a reply with travel and visa info in only 2 minutes after I invited her. Then I asked to talk to her over the phone,,,, and things just fell apart! My plans for the future are uncertain. If I would return to the FSU,,, I would use parts of the “master plan”,,,, but when I apply that to all of the women I had met or wrote to in the past,,,, none would pass the test. I wouldn’t have left home yet! According to the statistics,,,, I need to make 96 more trips,,, then I will have a 25% chance of a marriage lasting over three years?!! So,,, I’ll probably skip it. I’m trying to remember when I felt like I had the world by the tail,,, maybe between Jan and Sept 2009,,, but I saw red ribbons all over the place,,,,,, I just didn’t have any real proof for a while. I do appreciate the encouragement though,,,, thanks!! durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/1/2013 3:41:00 AM   @lonely: If you go back and read again, maybe you'll see that I was referring to two different guys: one whose journey was very quick and smooth, and one who took a long time with very rough patches along the way. What they have in common, is that they found what they hoped to find. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/1/2013 4:00:30 AM   lonely, I get the message. From this moment on, I won't write a word to you, or about you. Proshai! moyarishka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/1/2013 9:31:12 AM   Lonely, òàêîãî ýãîöåíòðèñòà êàê òû - äíåì ñ îãíåì íå ñûùåøü. Åñëè íå ïîéìåøü, ÷òî ÿ èìåëà ââèäó - íó è ëàäíî... moyarishka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/1/2013 2:27:02 PM   durak, right! Don't talk to him, talk to me! :) durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/1/2013 3:33:39 PM   Мояришка, ты конечно права. Better to converse with a charming interlocutor. moyarishka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/1/2013 10:51:51 PM   durak, gosh i always need google translator to understand what you write :) "interlocutor" - i've never heard that word before :) and i think i'll never remember it :) i think sometimes you forget that you talk with russian girl who studdied English at school and doesn't have a PhD in English :) lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/2/2013 12:55:06 AM   JohnnyUtah,,, it’s obvious that you don’t know anything about me!!! The 1st paragraph of your April 30th post couldn’t have been more wrong,, something I’ve come to expect from one or two other members. Over 10 women??? Where do you live? In my country 8 is less than 10!! Giving them a number is so bad?? Giving out their name and city is much worse,,,, even just a first name,,,, as some women from the FSU do read this forum,, especially agency owners and interpreters!!! Withholding their name is also a “common courtesy”,,,,,,, but I seem to be the only one here who knows about such things?!! Would you prefer that I call them: this girl or that girl??? Who expects them to drop everything when I come to town??? The 2009 trip was planned weeks in advance,,, they knew when I was to arrive. I worked with them to schedule my trip around their work or other plans! I didn’t have big expectations for my 2009 trip,, it was only to meet the women I had been corresponding with. About two weeks before my departure, I made a judgment call and told each of them that I planned to meet with other women during my trip. The reason why I did that,, is because it was so obvious,,, who travels that far and only spends 3 or 4 days?? I don’t recall any complaints about it,,, but I wouldn’t do that again. “He was nobody to her, just some dude from the Internet. She had zero obligations to him and after reading several emails in the row she did a right thing bailing out.” If men are “nobody” to them,,, then why bother with any of it???? Really? She did the right thing bailing out?? Well,, why did she want to meet me 2 days later?? She couldn’t meet with me the next day,,, but she could the following day. I needed to be in Kiev,,, and I chose Kiev over her. And about sending several emails in a row,,,,,,,, she sent several emails to me the day before, asking when I would arrive,,,,,, and said NOTHING about having to work! Johnny,,,, will you be wasting more of my time??? JohnnyUtah Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/2/2013 3:47:32 AM   God you're insufferable. I made innocuous comment about numbering women and you go on page long terade defending yourself. Relax. You just come across this way with all those excuse and claims that you did nothing wrong with all 10 (sorry 8) of them. Maybe you do come across like that to them as well but they do really want to leave the country so they end up stuck in between rock and the hard place. Or maybe she thought you wouldn't mind since you had several other models to look at prior to purchasing. Regardless I am not surprised things work out this way for you and now you mad the entire country. Btw durak was actually defending you in his last post, saying it was bad luck rather than your fault which is what I was saying. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/2/2013 1:47:18 PM   I had not failed. I only tried ten thousand ways in which it will not work. - Thomas Edison lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/5/2013 1:50:49 AM   J-U,,, we must have very different opinions of what is innocuous and what is not?! I’m sure everyone is thinking that these women are individuals,,, and as people with their own minds and thoughts, all came to the same conclusions?!! Not true,, for two reasons!!! Only “one” of the women said they didn’t want to continue with the date,,, and did it through the interpreter. The second reason it’s not true,,,, these women are all individuals, in different cities and countries (2),,, but all of them are linked or tied to a single entity,,, the agency! I believe these women are hired and trained by agencies to lure as many men as they can. Strippers, dancers, bartenders,,,, are all trained to appear to be available,,,, but to never be available! I think the same is true with agency girls. When a man and a women decide to marry,,,, the agencies get pissed! They lose a money maker! I don’t look for models,,, I just had one who’s beauty improved with the second visit,,,,, should I have told her to go away?? Most do NOT want to leave their home countries,,, maybe in the past,, but not anymore. I am not really mad at whole nations,,,, but rather at the whole industry “Btw durak was actually defending you in his last post, saying it was bad luck rather than your fault which is what I was saying.” No,,, I don’t really think he meant it that way. He is hinting and almost implying that I am creepy. If I was to say: I don’t think durak is too old, fat and ugly to find a wife, and it’s only bad luck that has kept him from finding someone. People might believe that I am insinuating that he is??! I have never met durak,,,, so he has never met me either,,,, so why is he planting ideas into everyone’s mind? Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Honest or Scammer
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