I agree with you on the hatred of Russians. The conflict in East Ukraine does not make me think any less of ordinary Russians. I have real and virtual (FB) Russian friends and even Eastern Ukrainian and Crimean friends who are on the Russian side.
If I see a real opportunity with a lovely Russian girl, I am definitely not going to say no to her because of that madman Putin.
I am dead against Putin and his govenment but not ordinary Russians.
Only 1 year ago Russians and Ukrainian were exactly the same in the eyes of Westerners. Now all Ukrainians are the victims and all Russians are the villains, yeah right.
" And let's not even mention how Western men here hate Russians. If anyone on this forum does find an Eastern European bride, I feel sorry for the bride. "
@ WM
HATE that is a bit extreme. Do you think that westerners are Nazies or Fasciets ?
What are you, pro or Russian or a Cummie?
Even though I had married a Russian woman, I never believed the “Cold War” had ended. They do refer to Russia as the Sleeping Bear and/or Giant. I think they have been playing opossum myself.
It’s been my belief, that it has been the government,,, and not the people all of these years. But that has been proven wrong! Today, 80% of the people approve of Putin and his war on Ukraine. How sick does someone need to be, to approve of what’s going on there??
Russia and I have been done for years,,,,, the events of this year makes that permanent!
Here is another harassing letter i received today of the woman from Mariupol who i politely dumped because of her anti west bullshit .I guess she met some guy named Dennis.This goes back to my original topic.Here it is cut ,copied,pasted..... "So how are you doing there in Mariupol with all of the turmoil going on in the eastern part of the country? I have learned a lot
over the last year or more about Ukraine and apologize to you for all of the strife, turmoil, and unrest caused by the US/EU
psychopaths who want to destroy your beautiful country to get at Russia so they can plunder and destroy Russia too. This
started a long time ago with the Crimean War back in the late 1840's when Russia defeated the English, French and Turks
who wanted a “southern beach head' in Ukraine to conquer Russia and plunder the mineral wealth of both countries."
Know, I was happy, when I received these right words from Dennis, he is 64. I am happy, because not all Americans support
the bloody policy of your president.
Best regards for you! And fogive me please, because I nervous you a lot...
I only like truth.
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viktoria sorokina
Sunvolt,, what she wrote is total BS propaganda in two (or more) possible ways.
She is telling you about this Dennis,, real or imaginary,,, to make you jealous! It’s to make you believe,, that if you think like Dennis,, then you might have a chance with her.
The 2nd ,,, this Dennis is going along with her BS,,, playing up to her. A con!
I don’t know a single western person that thinks that way. Everybody that I know,,, sees Russia for exactly what it is.
LR,
I have yet to meet a former Eastern European who is in the USA who dreams of returning .I have yet to even remotely hear of a person who has ever defected TO RUSSIA other than that American nitwit who has defense information.Russian statistics claim they are losing an average of one million nationals a year of people deporting legally and illegally. People want to leave Russia ,not move there and start a new life.
there are lots of immigrants who turn back to FSU after living some years in US, for different reasons, mostly money reasons, cos here they can make money easily than there. And i believe that there is a percent of Americans who thinks that Putin is right. Like Snowden (sorry if i misspelled his name).
Your posts are very interesting. Putin is attempting to brain wash people with misinformation, and I believe he wants his propaganda machine to propel his people into us like missiles . Ask one of these ladies what good it would do American Citizens to support Putin's politics. I think their answer would be humorous.
Sunvolt,,,, Back a while, I posted that Russia was a dying country, with a stagnant or negative population growth. Keeping Ukraine with their 45 million of fruitful people, is a way of keeping their population young. Gas, oil and coal may not be the only commodity Putin is after?
To make excuses for the local people who support the separatists, they are getting much bigger bombardment of propaganda from Russia than they are getting shells.
Wow, I'm glad I didn't listen to you! My lovely eastern Ukrainian wow wouldn't be here tonight. First of all English lessons for russian speakers are all overt the Internet for free. Second after a couple months skype or personal e mails are the way to go. Sorry but it looked like a scammerif they aren't willing to get private contact after a couple months. There's also free translation software everywhere. I say don't give up on anyone until you see the scams. It took me 6 months of reading my wife's profile before I every wrote, she's that far out of my league.
One night after too many beers I said what the hell. 100 times I laughed at myself for chasing such a young beautiful woman. Dozens of times I decided to stop communicating. We're happily married today. Also there's little things that give a woman away. If she truly likes you she will do a million little things that people simply can't think of I'd they are fake. Things like just ribbing your head if you have a head ache. Scanners won't think of little things like that. Watch the details and the big picture will give itself away
I think persistence is the key word in the 'adventure' to find an FSU wife. You persisted instead of listening to people that tell that a lovely FSU young girl can only be interested in a visa and/or your money. Well done.
Maybe it takes a few beers to pluck up the courage...
Nice to be able to talk to people who are actually interested in romance with an FSU girl.
To be honest, after the first trip it seemed too easy to find an fsu wife. Then on my second trip I had swallowed to much from this forum and had a overshoot the other way. .I thought it would be impossible but that trip I went with the tour group that offers socials. I met many women but none were right for me. That is when I say down with what I had learned and devised a plan that looked like it would work. On my next trip I met my wife.
It's not so much I needed the beer for courage to write her. It was more to separate myself from reality and imagine she would want to be with a man 20 years older than her.
There will always be questions raised by people when they see a couple with a large age difference. In my experience, women of a lower economic status with not much of future often are willing to connect to a much older man who is financially sound and reasonably healthy. This is often the case over the centuries. But there are of course, those who are just looking for sponsors or an eternal boyfriend and nothing more and will bolt out as soon as the "honey pot" dries up.
One lady who I am writing to says that she sees a lot of her friends who first become acquainted with someone, become friends, then lovers, and then enemies. So getting to know the "inner world" of the lady is vital before even trying to become serious with her.
One thing to remember is the majority of the things we discuss here: honey pot, courting, meeting for the first time, financially sound, expectations, etc. apply just the same to women of any country, not just FSU women, ESPECIALLY:
"become friends, then lovers, and then enemies" :-D
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