I used to think that until I arrived and meet the women I was writing. I've never gone to a place and not met a woman I was corresponding with. Also if you stick with level 7 and above englishspeakers, no need for a translator.
WS,,,, I don’t think you have comprehended what martin wrote. Even on paid membership sites like this one,,,, with the VIP membership,,, the agency still gets something from each letter. Perhaps just pennies.
As they said: read my lips! Fiance.com is a monthly subscription site but they paid/pay their affiliate agencies per letter for their ladies to write with you chaps.
I noticed that some ladies on this site never email me and keep inviting me to video chat (they are not independent, so the video chat is not free). As I said earlier, I scanned the women profiles and thousands of them have been inactive for a long time. There appears to be a few who appear to be online for many consecutive days (these are the newer registrants). I also just visited fdating and russian-personals sites. The photos appear more realistic, but there are still scammers there too.
The only reason that the majority of you guys will marry any lady that you may or may not find is because your respective government(s) dictate to you that you must marry her or else.
I had an entertaining number of years during which I travelled to some four FSU countries dating and shagging the ladies, what I didn't like was that two people only truly get to know each other once they may be in each others own back yard and I didn't like being dictated to that we would have a maximum of 6 months in that situation before we would have to marry ... No wonder divorce rates are so high.
Meanwhile, having learned the hotel industry during my airline career of 32 years, I've had a "dream" for perhaps 20 years that one day I would develop my own small hotel type business in a foreign land, I just didn't know which foreign land.
And five years ago I saw the light and relocated to a Pacific island to develop my business and right now I am dating a lady in my own back yard, she has asked me to marry her whilst I'm in no particular hurry to do so and am happy for us to continue as boyfriend/girlfriend:
So if you think for one minute that you are going to piss me off with your tales of suburban life, a dictorial Russian wife that, like most of them, is dictating that she wants to live in a city than in the countryside, and a family of crying babies and/or ankle biters then you need to think again young man :)
Martin .... I had 9 months living with my wife in my backyard .... More then enough time to decide i want to spend the rest of my life with her .
Kids oh man how i wouldnt have it any other way
Martin,,, your long post above is spot on.
In the US., we get a 90 day trial after the fiancée visa process, and it is something that I have criticized too. It really is a gamble, even during the fiancée period, on whether or not the relationship will work. I believe too many couples share the feeling, that they have come too far, to turn around and end the relationship because you’re just 60% sure, but not quite 100% sure!
I’m no longer willing to take that chance,,,, and that’s why I’m writing to someone who is applying for her green card. And if everything works out,,, she be coming over in May!!
I had a Russian lady come to live with me in UK and around the time she was arriving I was just changing job and we would be relocating for my work at a "London" airport.
"So we're moving to London" she excitedly asked, because the majority want, expect, demand to live in a city, when I explained to her that London (Stansted) Airport is nowhere near London ... well that was the beginning of the end really :)
Where I am now couldn't be more rural, we're some 4 hours by road and then boat from the nearest "one horse" city, we have no telephones, no radio, only satellite TV, no newspapers or magazines, no supermarket, no main line bank, no ATM machine, and this afternoon I'm doing my work in the pissing rain wearing a sleeveless tee shirt whilst holding an umbrella :)
And a very pretty 23 y/o Asian lady guest, that I had an acquaintance with earlier this year, has just returned to her room soaked to the skin in her tight tee shirt and shorts ..... and I get paid for this :)
I essentially said that I would rather use Tom Shea's example, not advice, than yours. So if Tom started his search from his coountry (USA? Australia?) I am not going to live there to attract a lady like his. There is such a thing as what suits me, get it?
dcguy,
Well yes, the ladies that want you in paid for video chat are scammers.
Also, the usual pattern is many women (or scammers) are in the dating site around the clock, initially, collecting as many email addresses as possible before they get removed fron the site. And of the non-scammers, many spend a lot of time on the site, initially, and then they get disillusioned or bored so they stop going back to it.
I have noticed that the women who ask for email address are from the free sites and then they end up as translation scam stories. The pay per message site ladies do not respond to my personal email address when I give it to them and just keep replying only through the pay per message site. Some of the monthly fee site ladies do ask for personal email and then go into a scam story after that. Most of the ladies on tis site have not asked for my personal email address. Some have tried to take me to the pay video chat side. And there are some who just send me one line messages every day.
In my experience I've never had a problem spotting scammers. I Did have difficulty spring serial daters. From talking with my wife here is what I can tell you. She had professional photos. She was a model, how easy is that? She signed up in November and we were corresponding 8 weeks later. She met 2 other guys from Europe before Igot overthere in april but was not impressed with either even though they had much more money than I do. She is 20 years younger than i am but her Ukrainian ex was 24 years older than she was. She signed up because a good frowns of jets was married and moved to turkey from fiance. Com. Btw, I'm from the USA. I live outside new orleans.
so the take home parts I see here are:
If there is an attractive woman who had been on the site for more than a year, there is a reason. It may be that she had married, it was not simple getting her profile removed. Add I said I never video chatted, not one time. She can always set up dating skype profile for free. In all my travels over there I never met a woman who did not have Internet access. Not one. My wife's much faster Internet than available in the us was
$15 per month.
The bottom line? If i was doing it again I would only wrote women who are on less than 1 year. 8 Would only date english speakers 7 and above. I would only use pay for membership sites. I would also get hooked up with a sweet heart like Inna in sumy and just arrange to go out with her enjoying the night life and seeing who you meet. If you are at the McDonald's in sumy, looking at it with the big grocery store at your Back, go right, up the hill. For about 2 miles there are nothing but apartments and stores. Go into them, no one hardly speaks English. Try to all for stuff. There seemed to be a plethora of young women shopping who speak English who will do anything to help out a lost traveler. I had one old woman, maybe 75 hook me up with her college english professor daughter. She sounded like she grew up in California she spoke so well.
Other specifics I could give are probably dated as I'm most familiar with the Donetsk area.