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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > AnastasiaWeb-Fiance.com ? Author Post PaulSouth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2007 7:25:17 PM   Well I hate to brag, but I got over 600 (603) letters from girls in 4 weeks before I pulled the plug (must have been because I mentioned my big willy, thats the name of my wallet of course). Unfortunately the girl I went with didn't work out, she was Ukraine and the sister of a friends wife who thought that she was a princess, or at least wanted to be treated as one. Well I'm back on Anastasia and after reading all these posts am now frightened that I'm wasting my time and money. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2007 10:28:10 PM   Paul...it isn't the amount of letters you get....it is what you do with letters that is important. You may have to revaluate your plan with finding a foreign bride....I have heard many more negative comments than positive about Anastasia. I stay away. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/30/2007 11:52:44 PM   PaulSouth - if you are bragging about the size of your willy - wallet or the other one - you're not going to find the kind of girl that you are probably looking for. THIS is what we (some of us) are talking about. You brag about your possessions, take a $1,000 a night room (because you want to be "comfortable" as on writer claimed recently) and then wonder why you attract less than sincere women? THIS comes about because a lot of us HAVE a few bucks, and we are used to throwing it American women and getting nothing for it. Well, guess what..... if you throw it at FSU women you WILL get attention.... from every gold-digger out there. Then you'll fall in love and she'll want more than you can provide. Or she will find someone richer - since her only attraction was to your willy-wallet. You guys have to see the pattern here, don't you? AcerMan Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2007 3:42:20 AM   Well said Jetmba, ... I have been in relation with a ukrainian girl for the past 18 months and we have met few times in ukraine and out of ukraine. When I caaled her few days ago to tell her about my arrival date to Lugansk.. I couldn get in touch with her. a day later I recieved an sms from her from a turkesh mobile no. She told me that she is away in Turkey for a while and will not be back soon. SHe apologized for not being able to recieve me and hinted that she is with someone in Turkey. In our exchanged sms she has mentioned how much she still loves me but then she said she is sory she needed money thats why she is gone..... Ohhh yeahh.. she still loves me. what a pitty.. She just loves money. I dont feel sorry for myself though.. I feel sorry for her/ However, I am not generalizing. I have firm belief that there are genuine girls anywhere you search you just need to be careful and behave in a balanced way so as not to give the worong impression about what you are willing to do for the woman. I find that is very possible to find a woman who is interested in the man not his wallet. ALl we need to have is patience and common sense Good luck to all PaulSouth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2007 9:19:02 AM   jetma - I was only joking when I said I mentioned the size of my 'willy' or 'wallet', actually I am completely sincere and genuine, my profile and letters are honest and loving. Its only after reading all the negative comemnts about anatasiaweb that I am now feeling not unlike a fool. One girl that was unable to provide recent pictures due to a lack of camera (oh yeah), I have just written and said 'no picture no more letters' she is lovely and i have been writing for a while, Shame, I am actually quite gutted. On the contrary to bragging, I am completely honest in the way I describe myself and my life style, I certainly wouldn't want to mis-lead a prospective partner, whats the point, and certainly wouldn't want someone that is just interested in money or luxury. I am, or was, looking seriously for a love partner. Are there any serious women out there?? Am I a mug?? beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/31/2007 8:28:40 PM   Paul?? What are you doing?? Some girls in Ukraine are fairly poor, if they work they make very little for the work they do. A girl I am writing to is very sincere and does not own a digital camera. I too asked for pics and she said she cannot get ahold of a camera to take casual pics of her and friends. I am sure she can pay to have a pic taken but I wanted everyday type. She told me she would send me pics when/if she gets any. The pay for teachers and nurses is really low...I was embarrased to ask! PaulSouth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2007 4:10:20 AM   Beemer18 - But how do you know she is sincere. This one I am writing to looks lovely and sounds lovely, but when you read all the stuff on here it suddenly makes you wonder if she is actually real. How do you confirm that they are?? I have been writing for only a few weeks but have exchanged a number of letters. Thats the point I guess, she is lovely, almost too good to be true and you know what they say about things that are too good to be true...... they ain't. I don't want to loose her (if I've got her) but apart from going to visit, which is obviously the next step but cannot be done at the drop of a hat, how do I know I'm not throwing money away with each letter. (its a pay by letter site - Anastasia) I understand that these girls can be poor, but surely she'd know someone with a camera?? and if she was serious she's find someone ....... wouldn't she?? Have I screwed up?? ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2007 8:10:38 AM   I agree with beemer. Its not that easy to get a digital photo for some girls. Most cameras aren't digital as most people don't have computers. If she knew someone with a camera she you probably have to supply film and get them processed herself or wait for the person with the camera to got it developed (which maybe months). Then get access to a PC and probably pay someone to help get the pics scanned. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2007 8:32:28 AM   I dont know what it is but I can never find these poor ones ) Just had some photos sent to of girl at Rolling Stones concert in St Pete on the weekend. Most of the girls I msg use the computor at work and spend all day online. No wonder nothing gets done in Russia kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2007 8:41:00 AM   sincere who bloody knows, look i as well as a lot of you have traveled and met some interesting so called poor ladies in Ukraine, they all had cell phones except one i met[so she says, convenient really for her, another story], a few had two, they all had many photographs of themselves of friends of family, if they can be bothered to show you, normal photos can be scanned. there clothes were very expensive on most of them, jewelry of gold worth a lot in their world and yet cannot afford a taxi. Anastasia itself is open to to much dodgy shit, they can make it a good respectable agency if they wanted, but they will lose to much dollars. they will never get another dollar out of me. if they want to show you, I'm sure the photos are there. even the poorest people i know have loads of photo's. another thing try to use a different way to send flowers, its to easy to click onto Anastasia for this, you are only paying the Ladies smaller agency good dollars to scam you possibly. they probably have 20 good shots of her holding flowers or shes getting paid off as well. use an independent merchant once you have her address, they also take photo's. there's plenty of real women there, there are plenty of the other type to. i have always got photos from women who seem to be real, never got bugger all off time wasters. doesnt mean shes not for real but, your decision. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2007 9:58:07 AM   Paul, First of all, pay per letter, sucks. Does she speak english very well? Does she have private addresss? Do the letters come quickly or at a random response? If you are really interested, send her flowers or arrange a phone call....that would give you either a picture or a voice. I have been corresponding to a girl since Feb on a pay per letter basis. Her letters sound personal and are detailed, hopefully she is writing them. She is young 24, so I was unsure for awhile but it may blow up in my face when it comes to meeting. That will be when you find out for sure. I try to meet girl within 3-4 months of correspondence. I get 2-3 letters a month, so I don't pay much and if she answers quickly I wait to answer back. It is my way of controlling situation so I don't feel I am getting scammed with letter process. As far as sincere, just a feeling, this other girl is in early 30's and talks specific. If she was younger I would not be as sure. Time will tell which way things go. PaulSouth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2007 12:35:45 PM   Beemer, Thanks your reply is exactly what I was looking for. English not so good, Anastasia will not permit me to have private address at the mo, but in their FAQ it says it does so I have sent them an e.mail asking why the info was refused, that was two days ago and they haven't responded yet. Flowers as kiwinorth said is not a sure way either, and with a phone call I am in the hands of the agency translater. Not that I'm feeling negative or anything. I have to say that the letters appear good, and my gut feeling is that she is genuine, but its just all the negativity here that has got me worried. You say yours is 24, hold old, may I ask are you. Regards, Paul PaulSouth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2007 1:42:35 PM   Beemer18 - I just had to add this. I just got a letter back from one of the girls to whom I am writing, after asking her foe a picture - and guess what the picture that came back was of her sitting in the agency office (so she said) and the point of this comment is that she was smiling (although didn't look anywhere as nice as her profile pics) and holding a big bunch of flowers. It jsut adds credence to the comemnt made by kiwinorth. Perhaps they all have pics of them holding flowers on file. The other girl that couldn't get a digi camera or scan normal pictures suddenly turned up a response in a day with a picture ?? how is that?? I hope I'm not out of order sharing all this, I don't want to sound sad but this forum is the only place I can discuss these sort of things with people that are experiencing similar feelings and problems. My friends are all pretty dismissive of my searches and can't understand me. Apart from the ones that have done this already and there is only one that I talk to and I think he's had enough!! I would be very interested to hear your thoughts Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/1/2007 5:29:01 PM   Really Paul, I think you will need to leave Anasatasia behind. There are a lot better hunting grounds than there. Monada was from Anastasia. From my experience she would be a true blue Anastasia girl. Not sure if thats what your looking for? )) beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2007 12:07:49 AM   Paul, We meet again!! Most girls I correspond with are in their mid 20's, I am turning 50. Age is just a number. I am too active to be labeled as old..I don't have time to age. The girls I correspond with think I am in my 30's. They base that on letters and things I am interested in. The flowers and phone are just ways to see if girl is genuine. Pics of girls (other than studio) are almost never as good. That is a given. I have met about 15 different girls and only once did she look better in person than in pics. God, she was beautiful, I still have dreams of her...she was the first girl I ever met in my FSU visits. Just be glad you got a pic. You don't know what girl went through to get it. Good read on girls with flowers, maybe that was only pic she had. You did ask her for a pic and she did send one to you!!! Now you are not happy to get pic. There are times you have to think positive until something happens to make you wonder. kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2007 3:06:56 AM   Paul you are not out of order, i wish i new of this place before i started this, you have the same thoughts i did in the beginning but i didn't have anyone to ask who really cared. this site is good for us learners. get rid of Anastasia, if you like her tell her or help her to get rid of it to, if she follows great, if not seriously there are some good women there waiting for you. i got lost in that Anastasia world and it made me learn the hard way. wait till you visit Ukraine, if you are unsure now bloody hell what a fuck around some of these women are. your time don't mean shit to a lot. i have never been treated like that before in my life, they got the same back, some i just didn't bother even meeting. talk about travel around the world to wait, yeah right. other ladies were fantastic, how different they all are, great stuff. can you not go straight to her agency she uses. you need her mobile number. if she makes thing hard for you, its really your answer. a lot just don't like listening to your needs mate. how many letters does it take before they give you a proper answer. makes you wonder what the ****** is between there ears. or who's in the money. Anastasia can be used the wrong why, that's the problem, we shouldn't have to worry about this. there is so much other good stuff we have to get though. PaulSouth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2007 4:33:37 AM   Beemer, Thanks for that, you are right about the positive thinking. I am planning a visit to meet a couple of girls in Septamber. My first visit over there. I sometimes over analyse. (i think thats spelt right) I accept that I got the pictures, but because one said "no way, can't do" then suddenly produced a lovely pic, and the other girl, a pic of her at the agency receiving flowers from someone, it just raises more questions. I am going to go along with it and arrange the meet, but reading through alot of posts here it has just raised my awareness to 'caution', that is not necessarily negative. I also am fast approaching 50 and likewise have a young attitude, I am UK and have just come out of a 10 year relationship with a UK girl 20 years younger than me. Good to talk with you. Are you USA ? PaulSouth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2007 6:34:27 AM   Kiwi, Thanks for your advise. The trouble with trying to get the girls details or moving to another site is that I am at the mercy of the translator who is on the anastasia payroll. But I'll give it a go. I know there are a lot of other sites and girls, but I kind like the ones I've been writing to, but I guess if they arn't real......... am I talking myself in circles??? I am planning a trip to Ukraine in September and am intending to tell these girls when and where I am going to be, hopefully they will get the message and turn up!!If not..... well I haer Kiev is a nice city to visit. :-) If anyone from UK is reading this and fancys teaming up for a trip (safety in numbers etc) let me know. Paul apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2007 11:23:11 AM   If you want a recent "unglamourized" pic of her? Just send flowers or chocholate. Every website since the 2000 has this feature. Like we said, a lot of these website photos are glamour shots and not at all what the girl looks like in person. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2007 1:11:11 PM   h and 600 letters in one month isn't nothing -- try (500+) on your very first day. Most are automatically generated based on your age. Although I could never get a girl to admit to this in a letter... they want to seem sincere that their first introduction letter was personally directed to you. In a lot of cases that is what they said... so I gave up trying to find the real answer. Actually the only reason I prefer pay per letter - versus a free letter exchange in some cases? The most insincere letters I have received seemed more prevalent from services where 500+ flaky older guys write to a very attractive girl the moment she appears -- without having to spend much money. But really? I will do what me and some of the other guys on here have had most success at -- I will write just a few very special girls using either service -- then go there with an open mind and if things do not go well, I will be more than prepared to introduce myself to the very attractive local girls not in agencies! This is where it gets more fun! I will just find a fun translator to work with who doesn't mind me introducing myself to girls while I sightsee and visit the malls -- of course you pay them for each hour of translation -- if only I spoke Russian! :) Why? Listen, I have talked to more than one "burnt out" agency employee who has heard more sob stories from "meetings gone wrong" from these letter writing websites than are posted in this entire forum or across the Internet. Honestly, one translator who works full time at an agency in Odessa for last 6 years has never seen a first meeting go well... not one she said and she spoke for all the other translators there she said! When I asked why? She replied that everyone's expectations were never met. Guys dream of a warm, sincere, affectionate, agreeable, young hot girl who looks exactly like her photos who is waiting to come to the West at a chance to have a normal life. Normal? I say to whom? Now its more common to encounter "dreams of having a rich life with a very handsome man from the West!". Get it through your head -- a majority of these young girls do dream of the fairy tale where the rich, (and young) handsome bachelor takes them away to live in a mansion and they can go on trips to exotic locations around the world and they never have to work for the rest of their lives. Of course not all girls are like this! *** BUT A DAMN LOT OF THEM ARE! SORRY TO BUST YOUR DAMN DREAM-ON BUBBLE! BUT YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP IF YOU THINK THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN A LOT MORE NOW! LOL! ASK MONADA AND OLGA! *** This is what they mean by fairy tale -- its not I want to fall in love and have a humble family with a devoted nice guy in some foreign country away from everything I know to work hard to support my future man and family. Read between the lines if you read "I want a man who will support me in everything... and must be financially secure and successful and wants the best in everything!" Yes, I met girls who werent this way -- but again I WAS NOT ATTRACTED TO THEM. lol! Translation: Fairy tale == meet very rich young handsome prince! In my opinion -- It's the agency process itself that is the issue -- not how much you pay per letter -- or even how much you don't. It's about what this type of attention does to the very attractive girl on the receiving end of it. In many cases it warps their perception when many hundreds of men write her, and a more solvent man comes to visit her, pays for her nights out, jewelry, shopping excursions, vacations, etc... imagine this happening to the girl you want to write once a month (or even once a week!), and in all that time she is writing to dozens of other men, and receiving flowers and chocholates at the same time she is writing to you. And yes, she can even date local, young, hot guys for her weekend entertainment (there are no rules at all against it). This girl and all her "lucky girlfriends" cling to the dreams they share where some girl they know found a very rich, decent looking man in the west. But if you chose a more humble and modest looking girl to write to, then the odds of encountering this exponentially diminish - because there are so many attractive women in FSU that she is going to get overlooked a lot of the time -- even by local FSU guys -- so she will be a much more humble sort. To put this in a flipside perspective -- Just picture yourself as a very handsome young guy in awesome shape (aka. broke college student) and many rich older women pay to write to you. Of course, the better looking you are -- the more women are going to write you, some will pay to come visit you (you receive much more attention and more rich types if you note that you are willing to accept 40-60 yr old women!) Always check the age reqs of the girl -- you will find more greedy girls in those willing to accept a man 3x her own age. Now to continue this perspective bubble bursting: Most of these older women would most likely not be very attractive but they have money to spend on you while your in school in the hopes to bear your children and take you to their home in some country where you might not even speak the language. You know guys who would take advantage of this -- and what makes you think for a moment just because its a female she is not as cold, cruel and greedy as to not be exactly the same? And you think these girls are any different because they are young females? You must not know any divorced men... lol! It is true that these modern FSU girls DO have many modern material possessions - but they take very good care of them -- some have cars, cellphones, fine jewelry, brand designer name clothes, laptop computers, ipods, etc... They are special gifts and these young girls do not waste much of their money on junk like we in the west do. They live at home and can work and save to buy that Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > AnastasiaWeb-Fiance.com ?
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