TomZ, how would you know that the hotel was not in on prostitution if you didn't ask? Why would you say that the Turkish guy had no class for asking about prostitutes if you didn't know the classy way to ask?
What does your perception of me to be a failure have to do with this? You now want to change the subject? The fact is you know more about prostitutes than you pretend, and the hypocrite is you.
Accusing others of being a hypocrite does not mean you are not one yourself.
Accusing others of being into prostitution does not mean you are not into it yourself.
Did you ever see or head of a smoker quit smoking by accusing others of smoking? Did you ever see or heard anyone quit drinking by accusing others of drinking?
Well you said that you've been to Ukraine 3 times and now you're dating local girls. One from the church and one down the street.
We can infer from that that you've failed to snag anyone from Ukraine which was your original mission or you just got suckered in by pretty pics of girls you thought were interested in you or an agency looking to get your money. Whatever the case.
Many guys go over for one or two weeks and think they can get a wife from that. Tom Shea did that but I suspect that his wife was in a previous abusive relationship so that's why she was willing to marry any guy to take her away from that. For most it doesn't work like that.
Guys are picky but so are ladies. They don't marry the first guy who comes along or who travels from abroad to see them.
As to you using prostitutes I don't know. You brought the subject up and said that you discussed them with your taxi driver and said that your hotel was in on it. Usually guys like you who fail to or are unable to have relationships with normal women use them.
"Well you said that you've been to Ukraine 3 times and now you're dating local girls. One from the church and one down the street."
Nice ladies too. I am also communicating with FSU ladies. Some are constantly leaving pictures of flowers, beautiful scenery and couples in love on my vk PM. So?
"We can infer from that that you've failed to snag anyone from Ukraine which was your original mission or you just got suckered in by pretty pics of girls you thought were interested in you or an agency looking to get your money. Whatever the case."
You are again inferring about me. How about inferring about you? I can infer about you. I can infer that you are a stupid fool who looks into scenarios of what COULD have happened to someone else. That one I did not make up, unlike your statement.
"Many guys go over for one or two weeks and think they can get a wife from that. Tom Shea did that but I suspect that his wife was in a previous abusive relationship so that's why she was willing to marry any guy to take her away from that. For most it doesn't work like that.
Guys are picky but so are ladies. They don't marry the first guy who comes along or who travels from abroad to see them."
What does that have to do with me? You suspect? So what? Why is that your business if he has not discussed it with you?
"As to you using prostitutes I don't know. You brought the subject up and said that you discussed them with your taxi driver and said that your hotel was in on it. Usually guys like you who fail to or are unable to have relationships with normal women use them."
Ahhh, you don't know. Are you sure? You seem to know everything. You even make up things, "infer" and "suspect" and you add that to your knowledge. The subject was prostitutes and I put my two cents in. The hotel I was talking about was Boryspil Hotel. No, I did not discuss this with the hotel, so I am not sure. I never said that. The taxi driver just told me while on the way to go shopping, and I repeated it for those who want to use the information.
But certainly, you should not discuss this in front of everybody. But, you came up with the story about the Turkish guy and you said I had no class because of what he did.
Three strikes and I am not out. It is only when I say so, not when you do. It is only when I give up and go the other way. You are not the spokesman for anyone.
"Are you a sucker for punishment? Give it up. Don't waste your money. Stay home!"
Here is the advice when of TomZ if you go to Ukraine three times and have not snagged a girlfriend. I don't usually call anyone stupid, but this one is. Stupid. Go after your dream. Do not listen to anyone like TomZ.
It is as if you he has never failed. Well, I have not either. How does anyone find three women they have never met before and immediately become gf and bf or husband and wife? They were learning experiences and one thing I can reflect on is they were fun times. I am not going to justify myself to TomZ or anyone, but out of the four dates I had in Ukraine, three of them could have worked, if I played it right. But, I didn't. I walked away.
TomZ has nothing but sh---t to talk about when he talks about anyone else other than himself and he thinks he f---ng rocks. It is as if he never fell when he learned how to walk or never mispronounced a word when he learned to talk. All the FSU women love him because Russians are pigs.
One would need to have very good luck to snag a wife in only 3 visits. It takes alot more time and effort than that. Ive been here for years
and do not yet have a wife but then again Im not seriously looking either.
As I said some guys go to Hawaii or Mexico for their vacation. I think it's better to go to Ukraine or somewhere in the FSU and meet girls. It's a great learning experience even if you don't get laid or find a life partner. I've been going so long I'm as sharp as a tack. I succeed in what I want to do every time I go.
My current girlfriend of two years has proven herself to me. She's not interested in quick immigration or a quick ticket out. In fact I may have to immigrate to Ukraine which I don't mind doing because the cost of living is about 1/4 the cost.
There are plenty of girls in Ukraine who don't necessarily want to leave. They have friends, family or work in Ukraine. However, are also looking for a stable partner if you are able to provide for them. They may be a wife or girlfriend to you if you are able to provide for the family. Many Westerners immigrate to Ukraine or other parts in the FSU for this very reason and they have no intention of ever bringing them 'home' because they have a new home.
One would need to have very good luck to snag a wife in only 3 visits. It takes alot more time and effort than that. Ive been here for years
and do not yet have a wife but then again Im not seriously looking either."
And what is your advice Rick if someone had no more money to take anymore trips???? Question is not only time or effort, it can be a money issue!!! There is not cost if someone is a keyboard romeo on VK!!!
"And what is your advice Rick if someone had no more money to take anymore trips???? Question is not only time or effort, it can be a money issue!!! There is not cost if someone is a keyboard romeo on VK!!!"
Strange question. This belongs on PM. You ran out of money, Beemer? Are you asking Rick for money?