TomZ freshtel is not a mobile operator so why would anyone use it?
Life opened 3G in Kiev yesterday. Before there it was only Lviv.
Your Ukrainian gf should've known that there's no 3G in Ukraine!
And even in those 2 cities 3G costs like a fortune!
"I can tell you definitely that girls for the most part do not want to be taken to McDonalds on a date or any date."
Only a girl can say that. TomZ must be effeminate. Some girls do, some don't. If the date has a bigger venue like a concert or a ball game. McDonalds is just fine. For those girls who don't like McDonalds, you don't take her there.
"ragingbull don't you think that's maybe why you struck out three times when you went to Ukraine?"
More bad advice from stupid. I did everything right, but blew it when I took her to McDonalds. Hahahaha.....
A good woman will go to McDonalds if I like it. She can find something good on their large menu. If she doesn't, she will make do, just like I will make do at a restaurant that she likes, but I don't.
If it is a deal breaker for a woman that I take her to McDonalds once in a great while if she doesn't like it, then she is not a good woman. This is especially true if she is not the one paying. A man who marries such a woman would be a failure. Not marrying her would be a success.
Now we know why poppy calls ragingbull a pedophile.
He's one of these dried out crusty 50 or 60 somethings who travels to Eastern Europe to try and get a 20 something.
You've travelled 3x to Ukraine rb and trying to get a 20 something and been (properly) rebuffed each time.
Yes, in my travels I've met some of these sick pedophile types (mainly from UK and USA) thinking they can go to Eastern Europe for a "child bride" but the people there will not tolerate shit like you.
moyarishka I agree. Only cheap guys, losers would ever take their date to McDonalds. You'd be surprised though. Some of the guys coming from the USA to get a bride are very very cheap.
I have to admit that European guys have much more class.
"I spent something like $1000 on "presents" and fares for taxis I suspect she never rode."
"That's why I say don't give gifts until you're well into the relationship. I would say weeks or months. If she's demanding presents from the first or second meeting then she dates for a living.
One of the things I've tried to do, even when in Ukraine is date only working women. Many times they will come to the date in their own car. I've even helped one find a parking spot.
""If she wants to come by taxi, she has to pay for it herself. I make that very clear to her.
When we do meet, I try to do a walk about - around the block or in a park near the meeting spot. A walk and talk. That way I can see if I like her before I commit to a restaurant or café. Many times I've ducked out at this stage. Once I said I need to use the restroom, then I ducked out and sent her an sms saying I would not be able to continue the date.""
"Guys how can you even consider mcdonalds as a place for a date????"
moyarishka, in Yalta, I gave the girl money for groceries. She bought fish. She salted it and served it. The problem was, she did not cook it. I ate it. When we were going to the train, I gave her money to buy us some lunch. She came back with liver. It was room temperature with no sign of flavor, not even salt. I would say rubbery, but at least, rubber has taste. I am not sure if it was cooked or dried. I ate it.
Yes, I took that girl and her daughter to McDonald's before a movie. Then we did shopping and then pizza. The places to eat were both her idea. Everything worked out just fine.
TomZ,,,, funny you should mention that,,,,,,,, cause I was actually thinking the opposite! I couldn’t be so cheap and petty like you!
This reminds me of a visit to see an aunt, many years ago when I was a child. More people came than she had expected,,,, and she needed to count the people,,, to know how many cups of water she needed to add to the soup!!!
I had to take this same aunt to Florida in the 90’s to see her granddaughter and sister. She counted every penny,,,, even took the money off the table that I had left as a tip. She didn’t keep it,,,, just handed it back to me once outside of the restaurant.
I can’t stand cheap people!