Pitchka,
if you know of any US man coming to visit near you ask him to bring loads of Claritin.
it's the magic potion against most forms of allergies caused by pollen, dust, etc.
We have Claritin here as well:))) it's rather popular, but I use the medicine which is the base of Claritin, it's produced in Ukraine. And it works great for me:))
Dale-Thank you for your advice on waiting for the friend to return and talk on the cell phone. My patience was rewarded and we have now had three conversations, although There seems to be a lot of interference on the cell phone line. Fairly often,when she's talking it sounds like someone is punching in a number and it interfers with hearing what she's said and vice versa. She says that her family is going to get a phone soon, but the good news is that she is coming to Los Angeles to visit me! I figured that I would pay for the flight. She has an uncle who works for the airlines and she is handling it from her end. This is amazing. She seems very genuine and I'm looking forward to her visit. Thanks for your input Dale,Tim and Ptichka.
Diamond Dave- I would be EXTREMELY cautious about this girl. Sounds like an easy way to lose alot of money.Being that you have never met in person, she would need a tourist visa which is RARELY given.
Yes, be very cautious... Just because she has an uncle who works for the airlines in no way, shape or form means she can get a visa. Offer to reimburse her once she steps foot on American soil. Plus if she has family in the airlines she probably rides for almost free!!
I just received a new email from Oksana of Lugansk asking if I could please send her $700 through Western Union so she can begin making arrangements to come here. We have been emailing almost everyday for the last month. She said she didn't care if I came To Lugansk. I have a lot of responsibilities and can't travel right now. I told her the soonest I could come out was the end of August or after December 18. This is what she wrote on June 4th. She made a mistake and said the beginning of June. I think that she meant the beginning of July.
June 4, 2004
Today I got my final shedule for the credits and Im glad to tell you that we can start planning our meeting . If you can't travel I can go to you ?I'm dreaming of holding hands,hugs and kisses in a real life. By the way do you like massage? I could give you a nice relaxing massage as I do it perfect.My mother tought me and she says I'm a good pupil.
Dear, let's arrange our first meeting together! You become a great part of my life for this short period of time and all I want is to see you in person and to get closer! I can really come in the beginning of June. My father has a good friend at the embassy department.I have already talked to him.
June 27
Hello,my dear David!I'm so happy to talk to you by phone! I can't forget your pleasant voice and I think of our conversation all the time!
I do hope that you had some rest during these days and that you are ready to start the new working week! Do you feel energetic ?
As for me I always feel energy after my weekends. Frankly speaking I'm a very energetic person by my nature. So that I feel myself always like this. I like an active style of life!
Dear,how much I miss you.You can't even imagine how! I'm thinking of you constantly and all I dream about is to see you in the nearest future! I talk to my parents every day about it and they are glad as they see me happy! As I have already told you I'm ready to start all the neccesary arrangements in order to meet you soon! Tell me please will you be able to send me $700 for my arrangements? I appreciate your care and help. I have found out that you can make a worldwide trunsfer for me by so called Western Union system. Let me know if you can use it? I will be able to receive your money very fast the same day. You will need my full name and address and I will need the control number of your trunsfer. I want to start all the arrangements as soon as possible as I want to meet you very much!
My weekends were very good and relaxing. I went to the circus and it was amazing! I liked it very much and it brought me much postitive emotions and joy. There were many different animals . I liked monkeys and bears very much. Also gymnastics in the air was excellent and very beautiful!
Ok,now I want to send you my biggest hug and kiss! Did you get it?
Write me back soon please
Thinking of you
Always,yours Oksana
From the phone conversation I thought that she was going to pay. I guess not.
She says that her father's friend in the embassy can arrange this.
Please Ptichka and all you seasoned vets, is there anyone that can check on
her at home in Lugansk to tell me if she is the angel that I thought she is.
Please give me your best advice as I am not sure what to do now and how to respond or proceed. I was planning if it came to this to pay at the Aeroflot counter in Los Angeles.
Thank you for your best advice.
I feel the same as most. You are on very dangerous ground. Is this girl sponsored by an agency? If so, the admins for this site may be of some assistance.
At this point, I would DEFINATELY NOT send money by Western Union.
I wish Tim was here, maybe he could be of help since he has a few contacts in Lugansk. I think Ptichka is away until Monday.
Dave, don't send money.. I know you want to believe her but take our advise unless you are prepared to lose your money.
The only way to send money to your girl is if you met in person already and spent time with eachother, and most of all if you hit it off during your meeting. I know how you feel, you want to believe her. If you are really interested in her use that money to go towards your trip to see her.. I just don't want you to get burned. Ive been doing this a while now and the only reason I am still here is to try and help others.
Have you checked her out at the anti scam sites?? If her name dosen't come up look through photos. Did you meet her here at this site?? If so, contact the fiance.com people. But DONT send the money..
Let's see, 1st she has an uncle that works for the airlines, now her father has a good friend at the embassy, and she is in Lugansk, which unfortunately has a bad reputation for scammers. I'm not saying she is one, but you have to visit her first, period. She will not be able to get a tourist visa no matter what she says. You must go to her and provide proof of trip and your relationship with her, then she can come on a fiancee visa which still takes months to acquire. Don't come crying to us if you send the money and she's a no-show.
Hey there Scottlf, Crashnsplash, et al., I have time to wait and will proceed cautiously. Oksana is from the Bride.ru agency.
http://bride.ru/ph/htcgi/ladies/in-21-25/index36.html
She answered some hard questions that I put to her including, Why did you put Yalta on your profile when you're from Lugansk? This was her reply:
5-29-2004
David, as for your question about my address...I have wrote my old address which was in Yalta and this is because I wouldn't like all in internet see it. As for the numbers one of which is my old in Yalta and another one is the my best friend's here. By the way we will use her number when we decide to talk!
I have not checked all the anti scam sites because I don't know them.I was doing some checking around and found this site. Is Ptichka from Lugansk?
I am taking a flight to Dallas tonight and will be back Tuesday and await more info. Thanks for the kind help. D*D
Let re-emphasize what nearly averyone here till confirm.
1. Unless this person is from a wealthy or positioned family, the chance of her getting a tourist visa is about nil.
2. If the above can be qualified, then she doesn't need your money for the flight.
3. If you have never seen her, the first visit should be on done by you. You need to see her family and see if this person really is for you.
4. Count on more than one trip to see her. The one time she will come here would likely only be on a Fiance visa.
5. Your web page contains multiple women named Oksana. Which specific one?
6. Regardless, I think you are being scammed.
7. Tim's contact can probably check up on this customer, but he will need her full name and location. Don't give that here, but wait till Tim is back after next week.
8. I think Ptichka will agree with the rest of us.
I'm honestly wondering if it isn't your stupid nickname that attracts scammers to you.
If you choose your nickname to send the subliminal message to FSU women that you are capable of buying diamonds to earn a woman's attention, then you deserve any and all scammers you will be attracting.
I'd bet the farm that lady in question is scamming you.
NO self respecting honest FSU would be willing to endure the shame of her family knowing she is begging for money from a complete stranger, and a foreigner to boot.
Learn about FSu families and women before venturing any further into this search.
Good luck!
Toad,I agree with you on the nickname. Just something spur of the moment.
Scottlf, The Oksana in particular is #141631 Profile posted Mon May 24
15:32:20 2004 (Moscow Time) Page 36, tomorrow it will be on page 37 & so on.
When I got this email I did a 180 degree turn and am going to email her and
say I understand it will be almost impossible to get a travel visa here and
say I don't think it's a good idea to wire you money, etc. until we meet in person,etc. I'm off to Dallas, I'll be back Tuesday and I'll jump back into the fray on this upon arrival. Thank you for your input as I'm grateful and
appreciate it.
I have a Kiev girl that I am going to visit in December. I have called her and she is legit on the phone aspect. She is a translator and can read all my mail just fine and can talk on the phone to me just fine. She lives in a hostle house with a landlady who answers the main phone and my girl picks up immediately like she's in the same room. All the time. How are these living arrangements for people living in these situations? Is it like a college dorm?(hell, I had my own phone there). She is originally from Ulan-Ude in Siberia, north of Mongolia, and her folks live in Moscow. She's 21 and also goes to Uni. Oh God, PLEASE don't tell me its a whorehouse! The Best Little Whorehouse in Kiev (thar's nuthin dirty goin' on comrade!) We have been corresponding exclusively for about 4 months. She told me that she had been seeing this dude who is married and has a baby with another kid AND some other mistresses. She found out about this and allegedly severed ties with him. I guess I'm getting Ukrainian willies, but at least she has been keeping our correspondence pretty platonic. It says she wants a friend first and foremost, so she seems to be keeping up with that aspect. But she is also mysterius and I can't pit my finger on it...