past experiences dma. I have had them. I went to russia to met a girl and although it lasted 4 days, I think she only let it go that long out of some sort of abligation. I think it died on arrival. Of coarse I think a lot about one but that does not mean that she is the one. She says such loverely things, she is pretty, not the prettiest girl I have ever seen but nice enougth for my eyes to never wonder if we werte together. I have second thoughts all the time, about going, about where to go. I thought from what you wrote you would understand that to some extent.
Put it another way, i do not want to be jet. I have been before and the problem is that the one I like the most comes from a smaller city. But then again, even small ukraine cities have plenty of available girls to meet if thing turn sour I am sure.
Yes, the experiences of Jet are only too real and bring home the reality that not all fairy tales end as fairy tales but nightmares although only jet will be better able to elaborate on his experience but it doesn't seem to have gone to plan.
I understand what your saying and second thoughts seem to be common place, rarely discussed as men when it should be. Those little voices can be a pain at times but the same voices that try to protect us.
I think you have to go with every best intention, giving your all and if it doesn't work - it was never meant to be. In the event of it going totally pear-shaped, a contingency plan is probably something worth considering for everyone even if it's just to enjoy the remaining time than come home early or stay home alone.
I am panicking a little bit myself now (which is unusual) but I know when I am with her, I'll be totally secure in myself, cool, relaxed and confident. I imagine the build-up is always the worst stage.
No mate I'm not a Buddhist :o))) I'm not really an anything, I'm just a realist I suppose :o))
I have often wondered where the conceit man has, that there is something more after this life, comes from !! What gives us the right to expect there to be an after life, why should we deserve anything more than we have in however long our lives last ?
And before anyone starts a religious row !! That is MY personal view, merely voiced for information, NOT to begin a discussion or argument on the subject, I have far more important things to do that get into it about this subject :o))
Now if anyone wants to discuss Girls I have all the time in the world for that :o))))
ID:
What I said means the same thing , just looked at from another angle, but the outcome is the same :o)) Of course I have regrets, every human does, but at least I did some stuff, some was great, some wasn't, but at least I wont have regrets that I didn't do something ;o)))
Trouble is mate, if you cant choose between them, we cant tell you how to !!
I'm afraid you gotta suck it up and work this one out for yourself, and if there are no genuine reasons to end any of them, then either you will go and meet them all somehow, or stick a pin in the map :o))
Del`
Here here mate, I have always found, on 3 occasions now, that there has always been one woman who I have wanted to write to more often, had letters from more often and felt much closer to than the others, and each time I have ended up meeting that one. First one was a scammer, dumped her, second one I though was fine, married her !! And now Natash`, all 3 were gut instinct and how I felt about our correspondence. I also find it hard to understand that not one of these 3 ID is talking about means more to him than the other two, but if he moved to Utah he wouldn't need to have a problem :o))) Job jobbed :o))
"fear that spark will maybe die at our first meeting,"
So it dies !! No biggy, go on and meet one of the others !!
Really it isn't that hard to work this out !!
Put them in order of preference, meet the one you like the most first and see how it goes :o))))
10 days is a good first visit time, and more so for you US guys because after 19 hours flying you are going to be buggered for the first day at least !!
10 days is enough to know if it has a future, and not too long to stay if it hasn't !!!
Del` we are so close we forget that its only 6 hours for us mate, its 19 from the USA, and thats from NY side !! With layovers etc, 10 days for these guys is a reasonable time to be there, or they would just be zombies the whole time :o))
I also am trying to weight up the 'value for money' in taking the visit. The additional cost of a few more days is relatively inexpensive given the initial outlay. Of course, the length of the stay is made all the better if the connection becomes a working reality, where time will not be enough but if it's not? That time will likely drag indefinately. It's a difficult one to assess for a first visit.
I am not an experienced traveler (other than No. America). But my travel agent Octavian Nacu from MTS Travel:
"According to the fare rules, you're allowed to change your
return date against a $50 penalty payable directly to Air
Moldova while in Chisinau within 3 months from the outbound date
based on the availability."
So the cost is not bad. If it does not go well for me I will simply return early, as I will have no back up plan.
I had good correspondance with others from Chisinau but would not want to pick up these relationships at that time. I will lick my wounds, be bummed out for a while, then try again.
My problem is that I am likely going to have to pre-book a hotel for the first and end part of the visit which means that the term is fairly fixed unless they offer a percentage refund for cancellation. I don't mind paying but I do mind giving it away. When there and everything is great I would want to stay as long as I can, if however there's no real future in it, then why stay so long?
It's an impossible one to determine.
I guess I can only go on what others have experienced in terms of success vs failure over duration.
Go for 10 days Del`, you can always change your flight a stay longer if things go good (which I hope they will for you) If I hadnt had to come back for the house sale BS I would have stayed another wek with Natash` but Im going back soon anyway so no problem :o))
Oh better mention it, Natash` has exams on the two week time scale I was originally going to go back, so its looking like the 25th of June instead of the 4th now, and probably for at least 2 weeks, taking in 3 weekends ;o)))
Actually thats another good point, going from a Friday to a week Monday is 9 days, that also gives you 4 clear weekend days to spend time with you lady if she has to work during your visit, this way is all goes well, you are only apart the 8 or 9 hours she is at work on just 5 days, perfection :o)))
Del` Russian hotles dont usually ask you to pay in advance, book the first leg, and leave the last few days as floating with them, they should be able to move them around no problem if you decided to stay longer :o))
I'm probably going to book via www.octopustravel.co.uk
(money up front)
She'll be taking 10 days holiday. I don't mind staying whilst she has to work if I decide to stay longer and if we are "successful" then I may use that tim to chase some opportunities there but is' all speculation right now.
It looks like we'll be out of the country the same time, all being well. :)
spent 5h on phone in last 2 days to my fav lady and things are going gr8. Am even considering dropping my whole harem and putin all my eggs in the 1 basket. plan B i shall make up if and when required.
oh and dma - II & III are ready give me a shout when you require them.
" I'm probably going to book via www.octopustravel.co.uk "
Why pay them up front, and pay more than you would pay if you call the hotel and book it direct ??? Sorry mate, but that doesnt make any sense to me at all !!
It does indeed Del`, where you flying from ?
Dont worry about putting your eggs in one basket SG, juts keep your balls in one bag ;o))
> Why pay them up front, and pay more than you would pay if you call the hotel and book it direct ??? Sorry mate, but that doesnt make any sense to me at all !!
Actually they're cheaper than the hotel! (Ukraina) (must be some kind of discount partnership deal) I've tried the Hotel directly and had little success with them. I'm not daft when it comes to money and will glady shop around to get the best deal for the same thing but I don't want to risk getting there and not getting a nice room for our first time together. If it was anywhere else under different circumstances, I would take that chance and haggle on the day, expecting to get a sea-view for the price of a standard room (even if the sea is a couple of hundred miles away). Flying from Man.Intl likely to Domodedovo as Sheremetyevo is rumoured to be a bit of a dive but Sheremetyevo is closer to Moscow for taxi travel.
Don, it's nice to hear that you've found one that you've settled for. If you feel you're on Cloud 9 now, just give it a few weeks and boy will you be floating higher.
II & III - v.nice and I told you I would have 1 done in 2 days!
(but will repeat it time and time again until it becomes second nature)
my email is open 24/7 set to check and download every 1 min.
Whichever way you fly mate, you will go through Moscow, you must as thats where imigration and customs is :o)) Once you have done that, then you fly on to internal airports without having to go through the whole rigmarole again !!
I have 2 days of travel and 8 full days with her. My agency is putting the deposit down for my flat and I don't have to pay anything till I get there which is nice. Plus she told me shes not working at all while I'm there, plans on keeping me very busy =))
Yes, and whats nice is that I didn't even have to ask them.
I'm leaving the 7th of next month Tim. I'm in the process of getting plane tickets now that my passport fiasco is over. Sending off for the visa now. You think I should wait for the visa before I get the tickets?