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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Learning to Speak Russian............and to understand a russian woman! Author Post GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/4/2004 1:35:19 PM   TimH, Without intending to re-ignite the political/religious taboo debate, I would like to ask you or Olga your views, observations and experiences of how the every day common street russiam man/woman discusses, approaches or deals with those two particular subjects in their communities. Even in famously laid back, easy going, friendly and smiling California, politics and religion are responsible for making mortal enemies out of next door neighbors and family relatives. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/5/2004 6:38:24 AM   Politics and religion are not taboo subjects here, but only among people who really into that. It is thought not to be good to talk about religion when 1 person is into it and another one is not. The same about politics, if 1 person knows everything about the political situation in the country and in the world, and another one has some slight view on that, it's not good to begin a discussion. When all people are on the same or almost the same level of knowledge it's OK, if they like to discuss it then they can. But not in big companies, you know like when people gather for a picnic or for a party. At such situations people tend to have fun and have fun talks, and not talk about serious things. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/5/2004 9:23:40 AM   Thank you, Ptichka TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/5/2004 12:55:13 PM   GLT: The majority of FSU nationals have no time to worry about politics, talking and worrying about it wont help them in any way at all, and they know it. Almost all are too busy trying to survive, and they feel that no matter who is in charge they wont have any better lives than they have now, so they are rather apathetic about it. The view that no matter what the people want, the government will only do what it suits and benefits them to do is very much the case in the FSU. (Come to think of it Tony Blair and his moron party are just as bad, but thats a whole nother thread !!) As Ptichka said, to discuss religion with a non believer is often a very dumb idea, but many FSU people use church as a means for emotional support in times of pain, and they do get a lot for their souls from their religious beliefs, but again some use it as a blind to hide that they are really rather not nice people, just like they do in the west !! Western examples, clergymen who are in prisons for abusing young boys !! Italian gangsters who insist on attending holy communion and baptising their children !! Not all religious people are good people. But that was merely an example of western ills, in the FSU it might be that a scammer goes to church, or a gangster, because it makes them feel their conscience has been cleaned, and they leave with a clear soul, which they go right out and dirty again ;o))) Rina Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/5/2004 5:13:05 PM   Here - usually - will not be any envy because of different opinion on religion or policy. But silly people are everywhere , to pity ;)) Religion.. now we have a fashion in a country - go to the Church. A lot of people don’t really believed, but go. As a good tone. But biggest part of people are simply calm with it. I think , that it can be interesting talk. At all - talk calm , there will not be mortal enemies ;) And , only my opinion. If you really like woman ( or , if you are girl - man ) , better special talk about topics, which can be problem. Simply to look on reaction. Because if you already know opinion of your future partner, later will be easily. And will be smaller disappoints. And, anyway , it can be very interesting. Because at every country is own opinion on history , policy, religion, and many another things. And then more you know, then more you can understand. And not big argument is even good. Because when you live with a human , you want to talk with he not only about, what to make on dinner, and where go at Sunday TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/5/2004 5:39:40 PM   Some very true and good points Rina, thank you :o) GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/6/2004 9:33:24 PM   Good point, Rina! I'll make sure to discuss how important sunday morning 'wrestling' prayer in bed is for me....;) Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/7/2004 7:08:40 AM   There are so many other things to talk to besides politics, religion, possibe menu for supper, and weekend plans... As for me when my boyfriend comes home from work, all we went to is to communicate on "light" topics, because the day was really hard... And if you know the opinion of your partner on religion for example why to turn to that topic again and again?????? Rina Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/7/2004 12:42:55 PM   You was some misunderstand me ;) I was write about topics for talk at the start of attitude. When man and girl only start to know each other. And here even don’t important opinion on religion or policy. Interesting reaction of human. And interesting , will human can talk about it at all. Tell , please, for you will be interesting a man , which talk only about “easy’ topics ? nothing such , what can really make worry ? what really can be important ? We live in a mobile world. All is changing. Every day something happening. And impossible fence off everything. impossible to live in a greenhouse. Of course, sometimes we want it, but for all life… it is simply boring. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2004 6:40:41 AM   Rina, I have to tell you on my experience, that "hard" topics, like politics and religion are not a very good companion in the strating reltion with a person. maybe a little bit later...but anyway my boyfriend and I we have many topics so called "light" topics to discuss...and we're happily dating for 3 years already:) And we ;ove together now, and still we don't go on "hard" topics, because both he and me we are very busy and at home one wants to relax and have a nice time:)))) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2004 8:20:39 AM   Here here Ptichka !! Hard topics are for discussing with people you dont have to live with day by day !!! The only hard topics couples should dicuss are topics which directly affect their relationship or lives together. Relationships are hard enough !! Without bringing un needed argumenst and heated discussions into them !! TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2004 8:21:28 AM   I DO NOT mean that couples shouldnt discuss deep and meaningful things, just that they should only discuss deep and meaningful things about which they have similar views or agree on. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2004 8:23:42 AM   I completely agree with you!!! That there will be always things to discuss besides really hard things. I had a friend who always talked about politics on first date, he wanted to see what the girl's reaction was...as a result he was single several year ago, and since that time I didn't hear anything from him. And I think that when people live together they somehow feel the attitude of another person towards this thing or that thing...some mystery:))) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2004 8:42:12 AM   If they dont feel their partners attitudes to these things, then they may not be in the relationship they think they are in !! :o)) "life sucks, dont make it even harder !!" dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2004 8:45:38 AM   I'm glad you said, life. Rina Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2004 9:58:44 AM   Ptichka ;) I have smaller experience of dating ;) only 1,5 year. From it 9 month we was making visa ;))))) But we talk at all topics. And at hard, and at simple. I cannot tell that we agree at everything, but we know each other better with every day. And at June we will marry. ;) Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2004 10:05:31 AM   Oh so it's very nice to hear that you will have such a happy event very soon!!!:))) I know that it's not good to congratulate beforehand, so I will keep my congratulations up to the happy day:))) I think it's not important how 2 people communicate, what they talk about, but it's important that they are happy together:))) Rina Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2004 10:10:15 AM   Ptichka, thank you for good words ;) It is really not so important, where was meet , and about what talking. Main – that people will understand each other right. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2004 10:14:08 AM   And on issues that they disagree, to be able to not upset each other by arguing about such things, and to agree to disagree :o))) All relationships are a minefield, but if both people take the time and trouble to lsiten then most things can be talked through and resolved one way or another :o)) Good evening Rina, unfortunately i am packing to move house at the moment, so I cannot stay and chat with you lovely ladies :o)) So I shall wish you both well, add my congratulations to Ptichka`s for your soon wedding Rina, and I hope I shall have time to talk with you both later ;o))) matelo Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/8/2004 10:18:51 PM   I have been working with the Pimsleur cd course for a couple of months... it goes in my car cd player and a I practice on the way to work... I like it....good pacing, they give you lots of opportunity to interact.... they ask you to translate from English to Russian, they give lots of pronunciation practice... I'm a language teacher... trust me.. there is no perfect course... but the Pimsleur works for me... Matelo Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Learning to Speak Russian............and to understand a russian woman!
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