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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Going to Ukraine Author Post Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2004 7:14:33 PM   Stranger, I just wanted to make it more sure, as for me it didn't seam very sure about which you city you talked about:) Just to make it sure:) GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2004 8:23:27 PM   QC, Hazim only mentioned Iraq and Syria. Not any of the western educated oil rich countries you referred. His post is exactly the same he posted months ago. So are his questions. Fast food is in no educated man's culinary list, regardless of the country that produces it. But now I've seen it all...a limey who criticizes american food!! Damn, QC.. that US ex-wife of yours really did a number on you. Didn't she ever feed you anything but McBurgers? Oh, I forgot...you do not like women who take care of their men's meals at home. Too demeaning, right?...(rolling eyes) toad hziraq Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/31/2004 4:55:08 AM   hi , Yes it is the same because my heart still the same and I want to live with my friend in Ukraine .I want to behave as Ukrainain not strangers. Hazim SergeyVA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2008 11:13:26 AM   Despite this post is too old, in any case I would like to leave here my email address and to offer anyone my assistance (advices, tips, etc) in visiting Kyiv and Ukraine in general. I am a lawyer so I am able to help you with legal issues as well. If any, just write me a message to sergeyprivat@mail.ru. Do not afraid of coming here – Ukraine is a European country! P.S. Welcome to Ukraine! Sergey Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2008 4:38:08 PM   Desperate times call for desperate measures it seems. Quote: “Ukraine is a European country!” Not if auntie Yulia has her way. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/4/2009 12:45:52 AM   Question, Sergey -- I am about to start the visa procedures for a woman from Ukraine with a 12 year old girl. My woman says she has not seen her daughter's father in over five years. Therefore, we might have some problems locating him. I can look at the USCIS for the requirements of bringing the girl here. What are Ukraine's requirements? Thanks in advance. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/4/2009 12:14:32 PM   Ragingbull May I suggest a website www.visajourney.com. Loaded with information and a forum that discusses what you are asking. I think you're going to have some difficulty with getting the child out of Ukraine without the fathers consent. Unless you can prove he's dead etc. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/5/2009 2:56:10 AM   Thanks, nasfan. Looks like a big website with lots of info. I will look through that website. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/5/2009 8:21:34 PM   I know that, Dan. I want a child. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2009 2:44:01 AM   Intelligent commentary by the village idiot. Stupid opinions are okay as long as they are dannys. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2009 5:22:58 AM   RB: You’re about to start the visa process with the same agency doll who shafted you for the phone fix? chrisc4 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2009 8:27:53 AM   Ragingbull to take her daughter out of Ukraine, you need the fathers permishion, If he has not seen her, and more to the point has not being paying any money to her up keep, her mother can apply to the court to have his rights removed, not hard to sort out and will cost about $250 ,alow around 6 weeeks to get it everything sorted, ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2009 11:21:37 AM   Thanks, Chris. I believe she knows where he is. They just have not seen him for five years. I don't know if he has paid any up keep. Maybe he has. Why else would they know where he is? My girl seems to have money even if she has not gotten paid by her employer since October. Perhaps it's her little girl's upkeep or because she got money to get her phone fixed when it was working. Right Dunromin? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2009 1:39:58 PM   I was in touch with a college professor in Zaporozhye. (She worked and is a frequent visitor to Crimea). One of the things I do is payroll. I do payroll jokes at work - why they will not get paid. I told this to the professor. She got furious. She does not get paid until the students pay. It is not like America where the employers pay hefty fines where if they are late with payroll. I look at news reports. Payroll delays are common. October is when the economic crisis hit Ukraine hard. Up to that time, employer had ambitions of expanding to Kiev, Moscow and Europe. She was also going to be transfered to Kiev, but that never happened. I have not asked her lately if she got paid, but as of early December when I was there, she has not. peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2009 2:09:19 PM   > hate to burst your bubble you seem like a nice guy but i think i wouldnt trust the "i havnt been > paid since october thing" possible but unlikley . its not for me or anyone to say but it all > sounds kind of grey . i could be wrong . but i kind of get the feeling this woman has recieved > quiet a bit of money from you . actually it could be true. even a friend who works in a bank here has been given "unpayed leave" for a couple of months. also olya's mum hasn't been paid since october i think, has also been given "unpaid leave" until feb i think. i guess it's just a nice way of saying "you're not quite sacked!" people working for state owned companies are getting paid, but i know of many (ok, just from other forums) who aren't getting their full wage. who knows...? /pete peteb Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2009 2:11:38 PM   > Not if auntie Yulia has her way. dun: very true... but heck, i even have a piccie of her as wallpaper on my phone! lol i just cant decide whether her hair looks fantastic or just very very silly. it must be the 'marmite' of hair styles... for one thing, she is very clever. she must be the easiest person to recognise ever! /pete ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2009 5:47:02 PM   I just called her to wish her Merry Christmas. I hope you guys did that. Today was their Christmas. They were busy with the world map jigzaw puzze I sent her kid. She had a party with her friend to go to, but she chose to stay home and do the puzzle. I asked her if she got paid and she said yes, although very little. Her job is seasonal anyway where she gets paid "a lot" ($500 USD) in the summer months and almost nothing in the winter. This will be the family I never had, Dan. I now live alone. I have been divorced for six years and my daughter is 22 and out of the house. I know I am far from that, which is why I have yet to call her my fiance. I have not given her a lot of money except for things we need like a phone, a laptop and to maintain her internet. I always send her a little extra on top of that. Also, she did buy a lot of clothes when I was there. I left her money when I left Ukraine, but that wasn't a lot because I got pick pocketed. I wasn't going to give her a lot anyway. I called her once and she was having trouble with her daughter because she wanted new shoes. I remembered her shoes were old, so I sent her money for that, and again, a little extra. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2009 7:42:19 PM   RB: You may have found the love of your life and I certainly hope you have. Nevertheless, having been around the FSU block for a few years I’ve come to understand things a little differently. To an extent, Danny’s comments are justified. I wouldn’t call many of the people sneaky, but many will shaft you whilst looking you straight in the eye and in more than enough cases with her legs wrapped around you. You story, perhaps coincidently but forgive my circumspection, is showing many classic hallmarks of a person who has stepped on the gravy train of your hip pocket. The broken phone one surfaces in almost every scam, the being marched around on the shopping for clothes one is classical Pro dater style, the showing you her virtual poverty and her daughters worn out shoes are another common ploy used by the same type, the salary being paid late or in part is yet another very common one although there could be justification in current times. Sure, I am picking bits out and painting them in a dim light, however there is a range of commonalities which would scream warnings to me. Moreover, the decent FSU women I know would be entirely resistant to receiving money. IMO, even more importantly, given that everything is legitimate and her feelings for you are honourable, sending money as an almost regular stipend is sending all the wrong messages. She lived Ok before you were on the scene and very possibly could live just fine when you are gone. You say she always seems to have money. Are you sure you are the only benefactor? You are dealing with an entirely different set of moral and ethical values in the FSU than you are familiar with. There is a range of women who are quite capable of loving you like the devil and shafting you like the very same animal concurrently. I suggest you proceed with extreme caution and I further suggest you delay the visa process until you are certain in your own mind. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2009 7:44:23 PM   Pete: Apparently Uncle Vova can vouch for her being a real blonde. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2009 11:13:58 PM   Thanks for the warning, Dunromin. I have thought about what you say many times. Not like the second girl I visited, I have never caught my current girlfriend with a lie. I feel that she always tells me the truth. Of course, things can go bad. Money is hard to come by, especially nowadays. I understand all the money I spend will not be coming back any time soon, or at all. The only thing I regret is that agency taking 10%. I do not earn my money to keep an agency solvent. I take it back. She did not buy a lot of clothes, but she did buy expensive ones. There is no Walmart there and the clothes do not go on sale very often. She bought a new coat. The one she had was not for winter. She bought new boots. She was wearing the one she had she wore all the time, and it was getting worn out. She bought gloves and a cap. She did not have any of those. She did buy good clothes that will last. Her phone was old. I used it. It is sensitive to opening and closing. I spent time with her daughter. Her shoes were old. The laptop was the most expensive. I had the means. Why not? That would end our relationship with that website and agency. I am certain. The alternative is to start over with another woman. At least so far, I am happy with her. 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