What I wanted to ask before: Are you 100 procent sure ALL men in Latvia were looking for wumen? Maybe some of them were just tourists?? And what competition you talk about? Its only in your imagination. I dont think wumen in Baltic states are so interested to marry americans because as EU citizens they are more protected in EU and home is only some flight hours. Here isnt anything to do how
strong or weak is dollar!
Jetmba, i've read your strings and I have to agree with you,but also dissagree. The thing your forgetting is the fact that these people come from a different value system and culture. Your trying to judge them on judeo/christian ethics. They were isolated from the west in more ways than politics. Cut them a break! Maybe you never saw the long lines to get shoes or toilet paper, I did. Their work ethic is different than ours not nec. bad just market driven. In the west we work hard and most times are rewarded for it with more money. In the FSU it did not matter how hard you worked you got paid the same as the poor worker who just showed up. In 1994 I visited Moscow and they were hurting bad but I still met a lot of fantastic people. Keep your head straight and your money in your pocket. But open your heart and you will find the people are really good. Just use commonsence and caution. "If there is dought, then there is no dought!"
Jetmba, i've read your strings and I have to agree with you,but also dissagree. The thing your forgetting is the fact that these people come from a different value system and culture. Your trying to judge them on judeo/christian ethics. They were isolated from the west in more ways than politics. Cut them a break! Maybe you never saw the long lines to get shoes or toilet paper, I did. Their work ethic is different than ours not nec. bad just market driven. In the west we work hard and most times are rewarded for it with more money. In the FSU it did not matter how hard you worked you got paid the same as the poor worker who just showed up. In 1994 I visited Moscow and they were hurting bad but I still met a lot of fantastic people. Keep your head straight and your money in your pocket. But open your heart and you will find the people are really good. Just use commonsence and caution. "If there is dought, then there is no dought!"
Unclebuck - you seem to make a lot of assumptions regarding my values. I merely state facts. If I didn't like the people (in general) I wouldn't go back as I have three times and I intend to again.
A lot of people here think (as some have already stated) have overly optimistic ideas about the women that they might meet. I merely point out my observations.
My wife will be a Russian woman. I am quite certain of that.
Annika - I never knew my real mother - and I was raised by great people - but thanks for the cut anyway.
My good! Please relax and take relations more like fun! My wife will be a Russian woman, its sounds like : My next car must be Mercedes! I find this attitude very dangerous!
Annika77: I have serious dated four Russian women - dated about six more not-so-seriously. The qualities I have found in them are not duplicated in women I have ever met from anywhere else.
Yes, I can say with certainty - the woman I marry will be Russian.
And I fail to see any danger implicit in stating that.
Annika77 - I am very selective. I have to be. I only intend to marry one time in the future.
I am still in contact with my Moldovan ladies. The one I spent two weeks with very much wants to come over on a fiance visa. And I am considering it very seriously. The reason I hesitate is something that I will not discuss here. This forum has become too hostile for me to want to discuss or to give details about my personal situation. With izi and wessman making unprovoked attacks with the smallest amount of information - I would just as soon keep my personal reasons to myself.
jet,
when i went to kyiv in march to a social. there were two men from germany attending. also guys, turkish men have a great interest in ukrainian women. there were plenty in kyiv in may when i went. dating and frolicking around independace square, downtown kyiv that is. ukrainians like turkish men too . if you didnt know, ukrainian women love to vacation to turkey on the agean sea and to their coastal cities as we like florida and mexico. also turkish music and dance are very popular with some ukrainian women. in fact one of the psuedo writers for that scam agency in kyiv accidetally called me (medet) as my first name in a false reply for one of their false clients. jmoluv
turkish guys come to Kiev because they got in contact with ukrainian prostitutes in Turkey. Tenthousands of ukrainian girls work for this in Turkey. And of course, they make only holidays there:-)
In fact, turkish and also arabs arent popular in Ukraina and Russia at all. They are called "black" ones and so in the same category as the people from the caucasus.
interesting WT,
it might be as you say but i saw what i saw. just like in the states , maybe/ most white families that i know of dont approve of their daughters being with a black man but yet the young generation loves to emulate the black culture. dance, dress etc.
jmoluv
i am not saying they (ukrainian women ) are dressing in turkish clothes . my friend says that yes (some) girls do in fact date turkish men and they do like their music. in fact when i was in a very swank night club in kyiv called( THE MANDERIN ), it was actually a posh nite club floating on a barge on the DNEIPER RIVER. the whole theme that nite was arabic. it was great,a modern bands music laced with arabic or turkish rythems and stage dancers with the band, dancing in arabic garbe in in arabic style dance. and beleive me or not, i said this in a thread before, a table load of extremely beautiful young women with one man taking turns on a hookah pipe with real good smoke that the table waitress kept bringing refills on. what really caught my eye was the lesbianism between these foxes at the table, trading long wet kisses and smiling back at me. beleive me what a sight !!! but oksana said it is time to leave!!
jmoluv
There is a % of women who like easter man, Turkish and arabic men. But it is not a big %. Very often if a girl is with an arabic man she is thought to be with him for money, or a prostitute, or anything like that. In my circle it is a shame for the girl to be with an arabic man, and nobody will communicate with that girl. In their majority arabic men are not very good...I mean they are rude, they think that it is enough to smile to a girl and she will do anything for him, because he is arabic. And it is hard to get rid of a man. Such a behavior is rather spread among black men, they catch hands, make to stop. Even if a girl runs through the market, buying things and doesn't think about getting acquainted with a girl, they don't care...they are black and so every girl should like them...this is really disgusting. I don't say that all arabic men, black men or Turkish are of that kind, but the majority which comes here are like that, and this is not very pleasant.
jmoluv:
(Thanks for the pictures - I will send back a few within a day or two>)
My Moldovan ladies also seemed to show some disgust regarding Turkish men and Arabs. But they were anxious to vacation on one of the Turkish coasts.
The lady I spent the most time actually wanted me to take her to the French Riviera, or to Italy. (A LOT of girls, eastern and western would like to be taken to the French Riviera or to Italy). When I expressed my reluctance she decided that we should vacation on the coast of Turkey. She said it was less expensive but (from her view) very prestigious.