I am a woman from Chisinau. I have dated men from Moldova, Italy and now I am married to a man from France, and I can strongly affirm that the problem of FSU women is not "leaving their countries because of poverty (some people learn to leave here 100 times better than in any other western country!)", but the problem is "the FSU men, their attitude towards women here". Western men seem, or actually are, much more gentlemen than FSU men, they offer a real, or imaginary paradise, an illusion. All women want to be treated like princesses, feel beautiful and really appreciated and from my own experience I can tell that no FSU man knows how to do that, unfortunately.
Tradman....your comment that "woman wear their wealth"...is interesting and is my experience. My friend has little money, but she has Gucci and all the best / latest styles, etc. She looks GREAT in them by the way. But I try to advise her that she needs to save and that I cannot afford to keep her in the absolute top styles. We are battling on this issue. But I wonder what is the "root cause"......if so many do the same thing in Chisinau, it is cultural.......the individual woman thinks this is normal. It is a complex, psychological / need thing.
tradman hat is the name of the agency you dealt with?
I met a girl on videocam site who now has quit her job and is goin back to school. she often goes down to the internet cafe to talk to me on chat and will spend hours of her time wanting to talk to me, emailing me. She didn't want me to pay and would talk to me at the internet cafe instead over yahoo, where she would pay for usage. she now has asked about coming over to my country and has asked about helping her out wih the visitors visa (50 euros). I gave her the address for the consulate to apply. She has since asked for money to help her but I am obviously cautious I don't mind helping her get over here but not going to just throw money away, if it is a scam?
Anyway, just called her cell phone and a guy answered which got me very suspicious. Any thoughts of any way to find out if she is legit?
Los angeles.....HA HA HA . Try Congo Kenya Ghana there are LOADS of Blacks living there. or try something nearer to you- a Chicago Nation of Islam rally.Jeremiah Wright will fix you up with black lady too.
LosAngeles.Not sure if you are serious or pulling our legs here.
But If you think there are any black people in Moldova !! Then you need to stay at home and get a map and re educate your self.
You have as much chance of finding black people in Moldova as finding a blond chinese Jew in Saudi Arabia
Jez, DCV, that reminds me of a time I was in Kiev and the wife and I were going out to dinner at the Czars Villiage Restaurant and the coat check person was a black guy speaking Ukrainian. Talk about odd. Problem for LA would be the under current of racism in the FSU is far worse than what it is in the States and they aren't politically correct over in the FSU.
I'm sure LA is seriously yanking on peoples legs here. Going to the FSU for a black guy is Kansas Dorothy that's for sure.
You americans are full of you know what. We all have the right to live a better life. And if there will be a working relationship ... go for it. Be careful but GO FOR IT. You have nothing to lose.
I'm from romania and my wife is american. I am an american citizen and we live in romania. Wouldnt change this place for nothing in the world. So ... live your dream. You cannot categorize a person after the country of residency.
but the problem is "the FSU men, their attitude towards women here". Western men seem, or actually are, much more gentlemen than FSU men
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Allow me to translate:
"the problem is FSU men - they cheat and lie as much we do and generally treat us as the lying scheming bitches we are, and to add insult to injury most of them are as poor as church mice and would rather spend what little money they have getting pissed with their mates rather than scrimping and saving to deck us out in the finery that we deserve. Western men on the other hand are loyal and trusting and comparatively loaded, and so actually believe our lies about having traditional values and like to buy us expensive gifts in the mistaken belief that we are actually grateful."
My experience has lead me to believe that the women with a child are the prize you are seaking, although at my age of 52, 38 is the youngest I will look at. The only scammers I have met have been from 28 to 34 years usually single no kids. A little hard to pack up and leave when they are carring for a child and I love kids anyway. Some very sweet women and pretty out there with a lot of self respect. I attracted the younger women because I am a body builder in good shape, But the older women are the really sincere ones that I have found
I do believe the American women are true artists at control freak behavior with vengeful tendencies when life is not perfect to their liking. 20 years with American wife keep up with the Jones' attitude. Went from net worth 1/2 Million to starting over 3 years ago. 52 years old and cannot take another chance with American woman. Quit going on dates when every woman I go out with is 20,000 to 30,000 thousand dollars in debt with credit cards and totaly irresponsible and wants the younger guy so she doesnot feel so old. A Moldavian wife or FSU, would be cheaper than dating American women if you like to travel,a little younger, pretty, European cultured, without an attitude. My next wife will be from a foriegn country. Been on the Internet and have communcated with women for 1.5 years and have found a few scammers, never got scammed. Have sent flowers with instruction if address changes or you cannot get picture do not deliver. Had a flower company help me find out about a few of them. Picture will say a thousand words. Getting ready to fly to Moldova to see a socalled traditional woman. The fact it is a poor country means you get to go back in time and have the experience of a lifetime and some real romance. I go to western Europe at least once a year and end up having to much fun and end up blowing off trip to East Europe. I will spend a little money investigating before flying. Although I think I have found what I have been looking for. Being an older gentleman and have conversed with many FSU women. I can read women like a book and looks do not persuade or intimidate me. I would not get in a hurry. Since Russia invaded Georgia my profile has been swamped with Ukraine,Moldova,Belarus. Can you blame them? How long ago in History has it been when people have been dragged into the street and shot in the back of the head. If in America we had a rescent history like that then you would see American women a lot more traditional than balling other men at the drop of a hat because there life is not the Princess Dye lifestyle thinking if you do not provide all the luxury they desire with every penny made someone else will. My wife of twenty years was a fantastic women till I started making six digits and was at the pinnacle of my carreer. Funny how she wants to give up the richer guy now and come back now that I am back on a roll traveling and having fun single.
Can you blame them for looking for a better life. We all do. If America had a history of people from a couple of generations ago being dragged into the street and shot in the back of the head you would see a lot of traditional american women. I donot date American women, I gave it up to take a few vacations around the world every year. Do the math. Add up the money you would save not chasing around looking for women when most of them are 20,000-30,000 dollars in credit card debt irresponsible and have an attitude that if you donot provide them in there Princess Dye Life style with everything you make then they will just find someone else to sleep with at the drop of a hat that someone else will get it for them, they will be provided all they desire and nothing short of that no matter what economic problems out of your control exist. FSU women are more real than you think, you just cannot go into it like a fool. I will be flying to Moldova this year while 2 friends are in Ukraine and meeting up in Western Europe for a good little party. My friends and I were told of FSU women and how they are addicting compared to US women by a famous Russian KGB defector to the US. I have been in the game for about 1.5 years and just now have been able to disect who I will visit. I keep going to Europe and having to much fun and blowing off Eastern Europe till now. A little tip for the older crowd out there. I am 52 and am a body builder, so I have been able to attract a lot of 28 to 32 year olds but I prefer 38 as the youngest and I actually prefer one with a child. seams as though they are alot better grounded and good intentions. I have caught a few scammers but they are easy to read. Of course at my age and experience I can read women like a book. See a scam A MILE AWAY, BEAUTY does not intimidate me. So far scammers have been the younger women only, with no children.I also do not chase them. I wait for them to contact me first. I delete them everyday from email. Try one at a time, meet a good one and after visiting her fly her to the caribean and spend a week on the beach. If you are interested in them you have the opportunity to make this the most romantic time in your life, and you know what that leads to. It is cheaper than dating American women. Shaken not stirred, thank you
I thınk she's fully ın love to you.Does ıt matter where is she living?A lot of letters in a short time ıt shows how she has big love to you?How can you be sure she's just thınkıng to get out from Moldova..Don't you love anybody before..Or you haven't fallen in love to another people before.I want to underline to it LOVE DOESN'T NEED TO MONEY WHOLE PEOPLE CAN DO IT EXCEPT WHO DOESN'T HAVE HEART:DD
maybe its not american women but the women you are attracted to. there are plenty of bad women all over the world if that is what you are attracted to.
Of course, I get the last word when it comes to Moldova. Moldova culturally remained part of the Soviet society as late as 2003, and then it beagn trading it's simple ways for the flash, bizzaz and corruption of Romania. Girls traded books and boots for cell phones and high heels. Cab drivers traded VAZ's for Hyundai and began to rip you off on fares.
(Of course, I get the last word. Moldova culturally remained part of the Soviet society as late as 2003)
Really? Is that why Moldova had, literally, a civil war soon after the 'fall' of the Soviet Union, in circa 1990, for the reform of the Moldovian language rather than the Russian language because such would question if they remained 'Soviet' for some 14 years after the 'fall' of the Soviet Union?
hi guys, some good points some not so good, i am older than most or all of you,52, english/european
i had researched websites counties,cutural differences, written to maybe a dozen women from the ukraine, russia,romania,and of course moldova. i have met the most amazing woman, we took things slowly, wrote in e-mails, later exchanged address's,then phone numbers. because i appreciate the difference financially i phone her every fortnight, write every week in e-mail and long letter and occasional gifts once a month. i am going for the first time to moldova in august i have asked many questions also for her advice. tradman has a very good point, not everyone in the east of europe is a) a scammer,B)desperate to leave their homeland and family,c)although moldova in particular is one of the poorest countries in eastern europe most people there are very happy with their lot.
living in england and being a lawyer i have daily experience of scams,crimes connected with fraud, people trafficing,drugs and fraudulant marriages inlondon manchester,leeds sheffield liverpool etc...
america is the same at least,attitude, faith in the person, in yourself,wanting to meet a person who is right for you, not just a sex object,'in-house maid'and if these people want to move or improve good for them,don't tar everyone with the same brush. as with the whole of life you get out = to what you put in,and in the words of forrest gump "thats all i have to say about that".