Martin, supposedly UAprofiler owns Ruland LTD. You interested me to look something up. I've noticed on a couple of postings that you cannot access UAprofiler from Ukraine anymore. If you are there or next time you are there see if you can access UAprofiler from Ukraine. UA profiler uses now an address in Houston TX. Their original number and address was of some politician in Lugansk and he raised some hell now they don't have a phone number or address in Ukraine.The man couldn't understand why he was getting phone calls from foreigners. The access was stopped in Ukraine to keep the girls who refused to join their agency access to see if they were posted on the UA website. Pretty shady in my book.
I do like the breaking news segment on UA Profiler. Too funny, breaking news as I thought it to be was at the moment. Most of their breaking news is anywhere from 3 to 7 years old.
The scam being run is that girls that refuse to join their agency, UAprofiler lists them as scammers. Also they push their investigative services, of which I would believe Aussieman used if he used any at all. I'm inclined to believe he didn't use any. He's a reckless individual who will condemn these women and not even step foot in their country to see the reality that exists there.
Wouldn't be funny if we started an anti scam site for the women of the FSU. One that reports the keyboard Romeos who will do nothing but waste their time and give them false hopes. I wonder how many clowns have said they were going to show up, only to let a girl stand at an airport looking for someone that never showed up. I bet that's happened more than many would think.
Another clever post by boredffukka, the forums villiage idiot.
I don't often frequent the blacklists anymore, even they have become a joke.
When I was in my 'looking' days I always referred to Elena's blacklist, indeed in the old days Elena Petrova was an email buddy, if I wanted some advice she was happy to offer it, of course now the whole business has become too commercial.
This bloke Jim, I recall seeing his site soon after it started and he'd literally copied & pasted every scam report from Elena's blacklist, of course add one or few affiliate links to a website and you've got, Jim has got, a commercial concern.
Also in the old days one could google for 'ABC agency scam' to establish if that agency was dodgy or not. Nowadays most, if not all, such dodgy agencies advertise that they have their own anti-scam malarky or indeed they have their own blacklist and they have done it deliberately because it is these that will show up in such a google search. A guy would probably need to go to the 10th or 20th page of such a search to establish if that the agency is actually a scam but by that time boredom is likely to have set in.
P.S. You know you're in trouble when boredffukka might actually agree with something you say.
Martin,
I purchased Elenas E-book, and has alot of good things in it. Have you read it?
Her graphic explanations on the the first sexual encounter cracked me up. I don't think
I have ever read something like that written by a woman in such a blunt, no nonsense approach,
It surprised me since it is a non-western "procedure" if you ask me.
Hey Martin, I have read Elena Petrova's e-book "How to Marry a woman like me" and other e-books of hers a couple of years ago...they make for interesting reading!
Elena's Models is an Australian based agency run out of the state of Queensland.
Its reputable, she does her best to keep the scammers out but no site is 100% impermeable to scammers and liars!...just visit e-bay!
Anyone whats FFC stand for...Fooken Full of Crap!
Elena's ebook has a lot of good information in. But you must remember it is written by someone whose business is selling services to men looking for potential customers. Her ebook suggests communicating with ladies very often (every one or two days) but when I used her translation services it took up to a week to get a letter translated.
I picked 5 ladies from her site and ordered a single red rose sent to each with a photo return through her delivery service. I got one photo back of a lady quite a few pounds heavier and a few years older than the photos on the profile. Two deliveries were made but the excuse was the delivery person did not have a camera. One lady was out of the country and undeliverable. One lady the address she used did not exist in the city she/he/it was from. Of course Russian flora kept my money for these two deliveries for the effort.
I reported the lady whose address did not exist to their agency. I heard nothing from them for about 3 weeks so I copied my email and made a stronger demand to them. They did at this time reply that they had checked this lady and she did not exist and offered me addresses to replace her. Soon after that she disappeared from their site. I told them that I was not interested in addresses for any more of this kind of lady. Maybe they have improved since then but I doubt it and do not think I will try to find out.
An American friend of mine, a few years ago, has an understanding of Russian and went searching in Elena's site. He found some advices/instructions to the ladies, that weren't/aren't for our eyes, whereas they are told to always say that they are writing to only 'him' and lots of other 'lies'.
When I tried Elena's site a few years ago there were a number of profiles from Belarus that were linked to an agency that started asking for money. I reported it to Elena and it was 'sorted'.
Hey Oz,
So you've read it too? Like all reading material- I usually am skeptical about taking it as gospel or verbatum no matter the author, but with every $50 I spend on education- even one good tip will pay $1000's in dividends or savings. I got my $50 worth already.
Oz, Martin and others:
I am really glad that you guys partipate in this forum and share info as well. Your "inside" information has been helpful to me already and I appreciate it.
Thanks!
The real problem is that the girls are not fluent in English and it is a real drag for them to write in English. The agencies then use a translator to write the letters to you and you do not know whether the girl of your dreams is really writing to you or not. Before IMBRA, it was possible to get addresses and write direct. Out of about 20 to 30 in 1999, I got about 2 serious replies. After that, one fell away and then I continued corresponding with the girl who was fluent in English for years. I have essentially had her as my mistress since then. She has no real desire to leave Ukraine on a permanent basis, but a trip to Thailand and the Dominican Republic every so often she is up for. Trying to get girls in as fiancees depends on the country. Australia is the worst place to try to get them into, but oddly Australia will let Thai prostitutes in easily - go figure. Even today, in much of Ukraine, US$100 is a lot of money.
LOL!! Scary isn't Martin!! My father used to tell me that a blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while. Also a one eyed man is King in a blind country.
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