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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Time To Give Up On Young Ukrainian Women? Author Post Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/4/2013 5:49:42 AM   If you got along so well what was the mate with your "relationshit"? Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/5/2013 10:21:30 PM   Tom proves that a serious guy willing to spend the time and a little money can be successful. kudos to Tom. take a lesson guys lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/6/2013 1:17:40 AM   Tom,, she couldn’t write three emails in a row and on time to save her life! We would spend a nice time together, then I would return home and wait for her email. I also sent texts and would call occasionally,,,, always hit or miss. I need someone that is reliable,,, and that’s just not her. Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/7/2013 3:16:17 PM   I totally understand that ranger... I don't blame you. it sounds like either she wasn't very serious... just wasn't motivated. I agree with you, I would have passed in a minute also. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/8/2013 2:58:03 AM   She lives in Kiev! She has hundreds of Vk friends,,, 66% men,,, most living in Kiev! She doesn't need to spend any time writing ,,,,a date is just a text or cell phone call away,,,, or vk email A girl's Vk or fb history is more important than we realize. Her friends live in the city,,,, we're 8 time zones away. The games they play with us could just be for their amusement? WTFisgoingon Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/9/2013 9:06:00 AM   EricUK i tried to email you with the email ip info... not sure if the pm worked. zarkey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/12/2013 2:58:04 AM   [QUOTE]She lives in Kiev! She has hundreds of Vk friends,,, 66% men,,, most living in Kiev! She doesn't need to spend any time writing ,,,,a date is just a text or cell phone call away,,,, or vk email[QUOTE] And? They could be her classmates, co-workers. Just because someone has a lot of friends on VK, doesn't mean they associate with all of them. You need to remember, Ukrainian people have a different mentality than westerners. Usually all Ukrainians have a few good friends they rely on. Don't presume! EricUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/12/2013 5:33:51 AM   WTF ... Did not receive your PM ... kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/12/2013 7:12:57 PM   @ LR …Zarkey is right …..My ex- have 200+ friends in VK and 400+ in Odnok….it does not mean anything special ..but I recognized that seeing all her male friends, pissed me off…she also got upset upon seeing my FB….well she want me to delete some girl friends on my FB without a good reason…..end story, we both felt unsecured and childish….. a lesson to learn, don’t jump into conclusion without the facts…. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/13/2013 2:02:47 AM   Zarkey: “You need to remember, Ukrainian people have a different mentality than westerners.” Exactly!!! That’s what every guy needs to worry about!! The old fashioned term for it was,, (Bohemian ways)!! It’s a society that thinks it’s stylish for a rich guy to have a few mistresses,,,, women to have several “fuck buddies”,,,, or for a woman to pay for her rent on her back. A pretty girl only needs to spend a few hours on her back,,,, or can live an upscale lifestyle by seeking sponsorship from a rich man. Look at the Ukrgo website, and choose ( For material support,,,,, or For financial support) “”Number of ads in category: 41436 “” Just for Kiev!! (http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3 A%2F%2Fkiev.ukrgo.com%2Fview_subsection.php%3Fid_subsection%3D26) (http ://kiev.ukrgo.com/ ) Here’s two ads. “We need real help men Date of announcement: 13.09.2013 07:47 City: Kiev Seeking: woman seeking man Age: years Print Need 500 UE. urgent. who can help? not occupy spaces of today's women. I will listen to offers. before you request the photo, offer real help.” “ongoing, generous lover on cars for sisâstoj puffs Date of announcement: 10.09.2013 12:33 City: Kiev Seeking: woman seeking man Age: 27 years  Print imagine how you're going to see me in a suburb and receive MMS with adult photo ... priezžaešš′ you are at the right place. I sit down with you in the car. I dress with a deep neckline, which opens up my big Sissy (size 5.5). We are introduced. you view pre month me from head to toe. Watch as razrezik plt′ica laid bare foot. go skate. I ask to stop the car on the side of the road. ask not whether you want to kiss me. Kiss of gentle, smoothly blending into the passionate ... I whisper: "Touch my tits". You obhvatyveš′ hand my chest and start to compress ... I want you to kiss her. We go to a secluded place. You celueš′ me for a long time again. you show your breasts. I rasstegivaű a pair of pugovok gowns and take out my Sissy out of the BRA. you immediately naklonâeš′sâ and celueš′ nipples, biting them. your hand has to walk between my legs ... and only my whispering stops you: "Let me take you in the mouth". seeking a single permanent lover for such meetings. the availability of auto and material resources required not all photos I send as and phone number programms. NEED ONE lover! It is advisable to get your picture. your post in response. about yourself. I am 26 years old. live in the suburbs (the left bank). height 165 cm. polnen′kaâ. with breast and elastic bottom, haired brown haired. love the classics and oral sex, as well as write small scripts meetings:) shortages. I'll be glad to know “ Zarkey,,, have you been to the USA?? Or did you do your learning from Hollywood and the internet? Have you been to Kiev??? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/14/2013 3:07:32 AM   K-dag,,,, but it did matter,,, as she is now your EX?!! I know what you mean though,,,,, it doesn’t matter much if she has 1,,, 100,, or 1,000 friends,, if she wants to sleep with one she will. I’m actually more concerned with tendencies,,,,, like does she need that much attention? I learned a long time ago that a leopard can’t change it’s spots, and trust is something that must be earned. I could go into a long story about how learned this,,, but that takes time. About my ex,,,, she keeps her fb and Vk profiles quite clean,,, too clean,, however her best friend does not. When two people have a good relationship, there is no need to guess or doubt. Being 8 time zones away makes that much more difficult. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/16/2013 6:07:47 PM   Social media is a SHARP double edge sword. Like a sword is a tool. It helps but it can also hindrances, builds friendships but it also sparks animosities. While you are reaching out to execute, for goodness’ sakes ….you are judged and condemned without a jury…. So the what, why and how much information of your life is public, may be taken in favor or not of ( find a soul mate, a job, an adventure, a research or fill in the ________)taken from Machiavelli’s philosophy. Does the end justify the means? Here is a few bad experiences on Social Media… Does not have Social Media, but uses someone else or under a fake name! Adds a few new people every week! Scandalous picture Off color topics. I have seen this and more and I had misjudged people too or jump the gun on this. I believed also that I was not given the opportunity to explain or be treated fairly. So, don’t jump into conclusion, just count to 10 and find out the FACTS, what makes hers special and unique. Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/16/2013 11:48:59 PM   Look, I've been listed on face book for a year as engaged. Iryna listed herself add single. Now yes it did bother me but I just watched. I said nothing as data unmanipulated it's 100 times more valuable. On the day her ex signed the documents to allow her son to leave the country her status changed from single to "I've just got engaged to the best man on earth". I told her that if she would leave her child behind I didn't want her because she had no loyalty. Now each day I get 2 or 3 friends requests from the women she knows that are friends. The lesson is that of i had been an ass, it would have done nothing but caused strife. No, at the time I didn't understand it, but now it makes perfect sense. Why get engaged to a woman you feel you can't trust? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/17/2013 12:51:31 AM   K-dag,,, I don’t need to count to 10,,,,, this has been going on for over two years,,, and I probably won’t ever see her again anyway. I don’t send anyone a nasty email if I spot something off,,,, I patiently wait to see what it all means. This one girl is still a mystery to me,,,, I don’t know her real story yet, and I’ve known her since 2009. As for checking out new prospects,,,, if I couldn’t use the same search techniques, I wouldn’t waste my time in the FSU. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/17/2013 6:01:30 PM   The way we as western men handle Social media is different period. …. Because I was naďve about it VK and Odnoklassniki, I had headaches and heartaches, confusion and conflicts …but at the same time, she (my ex-GF) thought I was a weak man, instead a sensitive man…Well, I just saw many reds flags …she could not explained and I cannot believe it any more. And things went south. I had used Odno and VK and others social media but is hard, especially when the language is foreign and the concepts are unlike FB… The point is simple to avoid misunderstanding Don’t add people you don’t know Don’t manipulate or be manipulated Hold the critics and just learn from different angles, not just from the Social Media Site. LR, every new world is a mystery…that is normal until you set up a discovery expedition….the girlI met online in 2012 was Unsolved Case ….I never heard back nor I care …but my 2011 ex-GF is an enigma…”Why get engaged to a woman you feel you can't trust? “That is right Tom…this is a risky adventure, where lies and deceptions are major’s players……. WTFisgoingon Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/26/2013 2:58:03 PM   I'm in Kiev now. Not much is happening. I am thinking of trying ukraine-matchmaker.com/ if only so I have something to do in the evenings without going around by myself trying to talk to strangers in front of the McDonalds or in a sex tourist bar. Honestly I've got no "game", that is why I turned to the websites to begin with. I like this part of the world, I feel more relaxed here than when I am in the Western world. It is not just the lower prices, just everything seems a little easier. I don't know how to explain it. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/27/2013 11:38:37 AM   WTF, if you have nothing better visit kiev connections, their office is close to irish pub above independence square. You pay for meetings, your choice, check his website if it interests you. you'll have to fill out the imbra form while there, you are USA yes? BTW, it must be getting frickin cold there already...all I hear about is clouds, rain...in different parts WTFisgoingon Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/27/2013 12:02:32 PM   Yes it is very cold here. So cold that I am thinking about leaving. Its unpleasant here. I am Australian so do I need to fill in that form? I looked at the Kiev Connections website but I am only 29 and there is not many girls on the site below that age and the others that are younger than me are not interesting to me. I guess this Russian dating stuff isn't for young guys (under 40's) after-all and I think I have the answer to my initial post in this thread and I am leaning towards giving up on finding a Soviet woman and just wandering around the world for a while beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2013 2:51:18 AM   You didn't ask me but I would not have gone to kiev...too big. You would have been better off in Kharkov or Odessa or even Nikolaev , a smaller city means there is a centre where you will find many girls concentrated in one spot or area and weather in southern Ukraine a bit warmer (yet rained last few days). I said Kharkov because of the concentration of university girls is very high. In fact, you would have better off in LA, still 80-90's, beach weather and plenty of PYT's running around on 'The Strand'....oh, and they all speak English!! kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2013 8:30:28 AM   WTF...come over to London! Lots of Baltic, Eastern European, Balkan and Slavic girls….BTW, the British,Polish and Hungarian girls are everywhere…the weather is holding up pretty good so far here....oh, and they all speak English too!! check out Vadka Bar at ID Square... Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Time To Give Up On Young Ukrainian Women?
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