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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Euromaidan Author Post lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/20/2014 11:54:52 PM   http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/american-ukraine-police-beat-me- mercilessly-n33591 American in Ukraine: Police Beat Me Mercilessly An American citizen of Ukranian origin says he was brutally clubbed by Ukranian police Tuesday night amid bloody clashes with protesters. George Sayevich, a resident of Silver Spring, Md., near Washington, D.C., was recovering Wednesday in a Kiev hospital, where he told The Associated Press that police beat him mercilessly even when he was lying on the ground. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/21/2014 2:13:45 AM   http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26277378 This is a very detailed link covering most of Ukraine. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/21/2014 11:24:14 AM   Here is a link about a peace deal between Yanukovych and three leaders of the opposition.. I think this is just a ploy,,, because one of the requirements, is for the people to turn in all “illegal” weapons. Does anyone know what is legal and illegal in Ukraine? This link has another link inside of it, that shows the new agreement. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/ukraine -president-backs-down-signs-peace-pact-protesters-n35171 “KIEV, Ukraine -- President Viktor Yanukovych signed a deal with Ukraine's opposition leaders on Friday brokered to end the deadly violence that put the country on the brink of civil war.” "Illegal weapons must be handed in and there will also be an investigation into the deadly violence that has dominated Kiev this week." ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/21/2014 4:00:26 PM   Yulia Tymoshenko Freed? Ukraine Parliament Votes To Release Jailed Former Prime MinisterYulia Tymoshenko Freed? Ukraine Parliament Votes To Release Jailed Former Prime Minister....To be clear Parliament passed the law...still has to be signed by the President. Her no 1 enemy." http://goo.gl/QN2mQw ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2014 2:31:42 PM   The peace deal signed with the opposition is waaaaay to short. President Yanukovych holds the election before the end of the year? He needs to be tried for mass murder. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2014 6:00:39 PM   Tymoshenko is free. I wonder if Yanukovich signed the deal. Defiant, she is going to Kiev to address the protesters. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2014 12:32:52 AM   Thrilling* news! (1) Riot police have completely left the area of protests in Kyiv. (2) Former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, who has been (for practical purposes) a political prisoner for more than two years, has been released and addressed the protesters at the Maidan (seated in a wheelchair). (3) The Rada, Ukraine's parliament, voted to dismiss President Yanukovich. Whether they have the constitutional authority to fire him, I don't know. Reportedly, he doesn't accept their vote, but... (4) Yanukovich has reportedly fled Kyiv. He has avoided the city center during the protests, instead spending his time at his sprawling luxury estate in countryside near the city. (5) The (ex-)President's estate now being empty and unguarded (it apparently has a massive security apparatus), protesters have siezed and occupied it, declaring it to now be the property of the Ukrainian people. *For those who truly care about Ukraine, instead of thinking of it as a Wal-Mart where you can shop for women. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2014 12:47:00 AM   In the bigger picture, Tsar Putin thought he could make Ukraine dance to his tune. I (and millions of others, I am sure) have been deeply anxious about what terrible intervention Putin would make after today, when he no longer needed to worry about bad press spoiling his Olympic games. Now Putin will be choking with rage at the Olympic closing ceremony -- he has been defeated by free people, in front of the whole world. Ukraine has many deep structural problems, and many tough challenges to face in the coming weeks, and even decades. Russia certainly won't stop trying to treat Ukraine as its rightful property. But the dictator has been shown that his diktats lose power at Russia's frontier. As the national anthem says, Ukraine has not yet died! kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2014 1:31:26 AM   i thought some kind of deree was signed by russia & ukraine to always allow full Independence from russia in any future decisions back when russia gave them full Independence, Durak? yes just saw the news, it looks all quiet on the Ukrainian front, great news. president'y whats his face tried to flee to russia in a private plane but was stopped by airport customs officials or something. he is somewhere unknown at this time. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2014 2:41:13 AM   I am just glad there was no more bloodshed. sunvolt Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/23/2014 8:13:58 PM   These Ukrainian`s are very brave and patriotic and toppled a corrupt government pretty much without guns or any military backing.We know our government in USA is corrupt and not working.I can`t understand why we the people can`t all march on the Whitehouse and run them out of their offices and occupy them the same way ???. We would rather listen to the O`Reily factor on our big fat asses, complain and tweet.We are the only country that doesn`t revolt or hold mass demonstrations when are freedoms are being taken away.The Ukrainian`s have much bigger balls than we do. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/24/2014 5:01:44 AM   @sunvolt: Some perspective... Transparency International is a non-profit organization that makes an annual survey of what they call the Corruption Perceptions Index for countries around the world, where 0 is the worst possible (utter corruption) and 100 is the best possible (squeaky clean). In 2013, the countries with the best scores were Denmark and New Zealand, tied with scores of 91. The lowest scores were 8 (for Somalia, Afghanistan, and North Korea -- truly awful regimes!). USA scored 73. Ukraine scored 25, tying Nigeria and Iran. Ukraine's public sector is as open and honest as Iran's!!! Taking into account statistical confidence intervals, Ukraine's index could overlap those of Yemen and Syria! For each dollar equivalent generated by Ukraine's economy per person, the US economy produces ten dollars per person. The US has never had a national election where the count was as massively distorted as Ukraine experienced in 2004 (the first time Yanukovich "won"). The US public has never listened to a telephone recording of their President saying that a journalist should be killed, who soon after was murdered -- by the way, that ex-President still roams free, having never been called to account. The US has never had a presidential candidate poisoned to the extent that he fought for his life, surviving with his face severely scarred. Consideration of these comparisons, may help to account for different degrees of passion and desperation between the two countries. ________________________________ None of the foregoing, in any way diminishes the courage and patriotism displayed in Ukraine during recent months. Chest' i slava! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/24/2014 12:03:08 PM   There is talk of dividing Ukraine.... not good. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/24/2014 3:30:36 PM   I agree, durak. The US is not as bad. However, a 73 score is not as good as what our nation should be in terms of transparency. USA should be the example. Again, it's not as bad, but what happened in the US is the massive delay of tax exempt status for the opposition of the ones in power (Democrats). It is not clear if this swayed the outcome, but it did sway the election numbers. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2014 12:47:22 AM   Highly entertaining NY Times article about Yanukovich trying to run away: http://tinyurl.com/m6ugtx5 His girlfriend is 24 years his junior ;) ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2014 10:41:57 PM   Of the $15 billion Ukrainian bond purchase promised by Russia to sway the protesters... $3 billion was already purchased before the Olympics. The rest was suspended because Yanukovych could not contain the protesters. Then, around the time of the Yanukovych-Putin meeting in the Olympics, another $3 billion was purchased. That's when the Ukrainian police started shooting. I don't believe the Russians can take the sale back, could they? They would have to sell the bonds in the open market. In the mean time, Ukraine seeks $1 billion help from the west to help pay for their Russian gas bill for 2013. stevc Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2014 3:12:31 PM   Why was blonde woman in wheel chair wearing hi heels. After being let out of prison. I know is very fashionable there. But not very practical. ozjohn Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2014 5:45:01 PM   This was in my letter today from my girlfriend in Cremea John I am suffering from the turmoil in Kiev. We have a civil war. Bandits are sponsored by America and Europe. The other day revolution was transferred to the Crimea. People go crazy. In Simferopol 25000 people, gathered in Sevastopol 50000 the other day. Today the full horror is created. In Simferopol people from all Crimea hold at once two meetings. People were divided into Tatars and Russians. Russians want that the Crimea belonged to Russia. And Tatars want will connect to the Ukrainian bandits. There is something awful. Across all Ukraine robberies, people kill people. Our president somewhere escaped. All deputies resign. Sevastopol declared itself the independent city, now it belongs to Russia. now Russia is getting ready to invade and head straight to the Crimea. I did warn her this would happen when these riots started last year of Russian plans. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2014 4:16:22 AM   She going against the west,,,, dump her! ozjohn Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2014 4:44:04 AM   LR it must be tough for people there as she was pro EU from the start and right up to 2 weeks ago. I have not ask her now where she is standing with it. but she did say that she wants to leave the country and go on a one way ticket. I would not give up on her. I just don't think it clear cut with all the people there and the history of the place. the Crimea has a population of 58% Russian, 25% Ukrainian and 12% tartar who was the original people that owned the Crimea they are now lined to the Ukrainians. it was stalin who created this problem in May 1944 by moving and killing all the tartar there. and by moving in the Russian to take over the place. it a shame because it's going back to the cold war days now. 2 superpowers trying to win over the people. specially Russia as it wants it old ways of having another USSR. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Euromaidan
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