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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Give Back Crimea Author Post RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/16/2014 6:30:33 PM   I hope that you are right Durak for very personal reasons. I see it as home, but it is a complete disaster to Russia because as long as it is occupied, it will be contested and a money pit. Anyone investing there will have to understand that they are in fact conspirators with Putin. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/16/2014 7:08:31 PM   I think a leader should make a statement that is as blunt as the title of this thread. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/16/2014 7:25:39 PM   Rodan, I didn't realize, that you have a personal connection to Krim. Unfortunately, I never made it there -- I planned to take a girl there a few years ago, but she called off the trip and I met her instead in her home city. I can't imagine going there now, while it is under illegal occupation! Crimea certainly is and will continue to be a money pit. There is practically no advantage to Russia in holding Crimea. Russia can use its "territorial waters" claims to prevent Ukraine from using its rightful natural gas reserves, but probably Russia will never tap them -- and anyway, Russia hardly needs more gas. In promoting Crimea as a Russian vacation destination, Russia is creating direct competition with its existing resorts. There is no net gain at all, but many costly losses. I can't imagine a path by which Russia will let go of Crimea. If it ever happens, it probably won't be in my lifetime. Crimea may end up like the Turkish-occupied region of Cyprus; the Turks are still in control 40 years later. But the world has never recognized or accepted this occupation, and the Turkish-occupied zone seems to be something of a wasteland -- the territory has never recovered its pre-occupation condition. The world won't push Russia out of Crimea, but I hope that it will never legitimize Russia's crime. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/16/2014 7:58:45 PM   "I can't imagine a path by which Russia will let go of Crimea." How about with Putin out of the way? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/17/2014 12:08:42 AM   Durak,,, it may not have anything to do with Russia needing Ukraine’s oil and gas fields,,,, but to prevent Ukraine from tapping them,,, keeping them almost 100% dependent on Russian gas. The greater the need,,, the higher the price! It is also an incentive to,,,, join Eurasia or freeze! svenden Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2014 8:29:57 AM   The latest opinion poll, published by the Levada Center, put Putin’s approval rating at a stratospheric 87 percent. It also said that a record 66 percent of Russians think the country is now going in the right direction. The only time Putin’s popularity level soared higher was in September 2008 just after Russia crushed Georgia’s military and accomplished a de facto annexation of two Georgian regions. A full 88 percent of Russians expressed approval of him at that time. The pattern shows that Putin’s popularity climbs when he is leading Russia to expand its territory and power RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2014 10:07:21 PM   And it is a crime for the mother of a dead Russian soldier to grieve in public. The polls reflect the ingrained need for self preservation from the last century. Free thinkers are made an example of and treated like Ronald McDonald. MartinPC Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2014 3:26:03 AM   Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday speaking with European Leaders in Milan, Italy denied all the allegations of Russian involvement in the Ukraine. Putin denies that he or any Russian instigated any of the Eastern Ukrainians to revolt against the government. Putin went on to say that Russia never sent any arms or troops to fight in the Ukraine. He still wants to say that any Russian troops were simply volunteers wanting to help the Russian speaking Ukrainians that were being harassed by Ukrainian troops. He said with a straight face that he was only helping those poor Crimean's who were living in fear from the troops from Western Ukraine. All the leaders attending the conference were there to try and stop the fighting that has still been going on since the September 5th cease fire. Since the cease fire some 400 have died and most have been civilians. All of the European Union along with the United States know that Putin has been instigating this crisis from the very beginning. Putin has all along been trying to gain back lost ground from the old Soviet Union. He is all consumed in this mission and is now looking to the Baltic States. Putin has little time as he just turned 62 and time is not on his side. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2014 8:28:22 PM   Russia never OFFICIALLY sent any arms or troops to fight in the Ukraine. Well you are providing refuge to the former President, so based on logical deduction, you would support those who backed him in the past. Stop trying to use this "peace keeping" excuse nonsense. Send your peacekeepers to Syria where they are actually needed. Hey, you supposrt Assad? Remember that????? RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2014 9:43:15 PM   Since no one sitting at the table had the guts,,,,,,,, Aw shut the fuck up with your lying bullshit Vlad,,, you talk like an idiot,,,!!!! poppy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2014 11:52:20 PM   Soon you will all agree putin did a great job . The truth will surface and you will all look as silly as tonty abbot lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2014 12:21:49 AM   I think a comment from durak months ago best describes Putin and his line of BS. It ended with something like,,,,,,,, "and pronouncing it tasty"!! I hope durak remembers the rest of it,,,,,, it made me laugh for days. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2014 12:45:11 AM   I like the one about connecting the sink to the sewer and connecting it backwards. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2014 3:21:21 PM   @lonely: I looked it up, it took some digging ... for a couple of weeks, somebody was posting here under the handle "stoptheinsanity," who accurately repeated all of the lies from the Kremlin. On 12 April, I wrote, "That 'insanity' eats this crap, and pronounces it tasty, is pathetic. That millions of Russian-speakers in Ukraine have done the same, is tragic." I'm glad you got some laughs, we need them in tragic times. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2014 4:14:34 PM   http://www.slavorum.org/vladimir-putin-returns-crimea-to-ukraine/ I don't know if this is true or some bogus bs,,, but it claims that a deal has been made to return Crimea to Ukraine?? I don't have time to check it out more. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2014 5:11:09 PM   Lonely, Read a little more carefully: "Vladimir Putin returns Crimea to Ukraine October 20, 2014 in Humor No Comments" The article was posted "in Humor", though I don't get the joke. The actual news from Crimea is even less funny than that. Russia's Kommersant newspaper reported today that Crimea’s council of ministers has handed over several state-owned dachas, or country estates, as well as a nature reserve, health spas, children’s camps and a venerable winery to the Kremlin's property management department. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2014 9:18:26 PM   Durak,,,, look more carefully would be more accurate. I probably didn’t have my reading glasses on,,,, and the “in humor” part is quite faint. It sounded like a plausible story,,, but perhaps too good to be true. I didn’t have time to check out the story further, as I was just checking the weather radar and looking for emails,,,,, fb. The noaa national radar is on the fritz today too. poppy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/23/2014 12:02:50 AM   Grabbing a burger and your free wifi run out .isnt it time you hit up your parents for internet connection durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/23/2014 5:08:07 AM   LR, I wouldn't have your problem, because without my reading glasses, the computer is pure blur :) So I always wear them, when surfing. MartinPC Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/23/2014 7:21:34 AM   "Surfing" Durak? ... Am I in the right location for you, would you care to make a reservation Sir? :) http://surfingphilippines.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Secret-Spot -Siargao-Banner1.jpg Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Give Back Crimea
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