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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Ukraine Trip Report Dec 2014-Jan2015 Author Post btb754 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2015 12:24:48 PM   I'll decide on Nikolaev in the next day or so. If I go anywhere it will be to Kiev to be near this dance studio: http://youaredance.kiev.ua/ Nikolaev does not have this type of dance instruction. btb754 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2015 2:16:54 PM   I like Nikolaev as an expat location Pluses for Nikolaev as an Expat location: - Decent sized city. - Real estate is less expensive - Labor is less expensive. - It is in the south and near the sea. Odessa would be nice, but I think it is a lot more expensive to live downtown. Kharkov and Kiev have a much more eclectic ballroom dance scene. They are not near the sea and are farther north. They are likely more expensive. TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2015 4:59:44 PM   StupidAmerican - apparently they are. Tom Shea met his wife here. So I guess it works. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2015 7:37:05 PM   'StupidAmerican - apparently they are. Tom Shea met his wife here. So I guess it works. ' A couple friends met their wives on anasatsia and HRB........so I guess it works there too??? beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2015 7:43:11 PM   'They do NOT expect you to be in their country ' It is different now Rick, it seems the girl is hoping you are in her city and throws out a 'lets meet'. Must be a new tactic now. Had that happen few times already. In fact one was on Anastasia, I had 4 free minutes, set up date online for free, girl was not as hot as pics( seems too good) but was sincere( I was a bit surprised). dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2015 8:34:14 PM   "Watch out that all of this does end up as a soap opera." Needs to include the negative which I omitted. Watch out that all of this does end NOT up as a soap opera. "I have a question. Men are using Fiance.com? I thought it was a pay by letter site. Is that not true?" Technically, yes. If you are not a VIP member, all messages to the profiles are Pay per letter except for independent ladies (those with their own email). So you can be a regular member or a "free" member, and have to pay to correspond with "agency" profiles. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2015 8:50:10 PM   btb754 wrote: "Odessa would be nice, but I think it is a lot more expensive to live downtown. " you would be right. My girlfriend wants me to buy an apartment in odessa to relocate her brother, wife and 2 kids so he can have better chance to find a job. she owns a house in a village north of nikolaev that will be impossible to sell easily and there is really no work to be found anywhere around there. Problem is that apartments within 5km of center can easily run up to 100k for 2 room 50 s.m. I have found distressed HUGE unfinished houses outside the city in the range of 60-80k on the busline that are upwards from 200s.m. in places like Fontanka which are upscale areas but the cost to finish can be as much as 50k or more but still 150k for a 200+ s.m. in that area is still half price of finished houses for sale is still a great investment. problem is most expats want to be near center. btb754, if you dont mind it taking 20 minutes to get to center of Odesa, you can have a nice luxury property with a wall around it, often with a sea view for less than 150k. the girls will be very impressed. there are dozens to be had. If I can convince my girlfriend that this is a better option then im gonna buy one instead of apartment in center. I found one which is 450 s.m. pool in basement, 2 car garage and wall around property is finished already. Its more than 80% finished and the only drawback is that its a gravel road in the neighborhood. still less than 100K A friend of mine bought one of that size and price range last year. it should be finished by fall. he is 200 meters from the sea. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/15/2015 12:56:58 AM   Rick: “My girlfriend wants me to buy an apartment in odessa to relocate her brother, wife and 2 kids so he can have better chance to find a job.” Quite often,, you speak of other guys that are being scammed or taken advantage of,,, because they don’t know things like the language or culture, or don’t take the time to do their homework, or can’t spend enough time in Ukraine,,,, therefore women write them off as not serious and scam them. And even more often, I wonder if you are the biggest fool here,,,, needing to buy your girlfriends just to keep up a reputation. I take flak, because I bought a girl cloths and food,,,,, but you’re buying an almost or maybe brother in-law a house??? Very Interesting!!! JonEwad Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/15/2015 9:34:52 AM   "If I go anywhere it will be to Kiev to be near this dance studio: http://youaredance.kiev.ua/ " btb754 You should definitely go to Kiev. A lot of Hotties at that dance studio and you will be in your element (dancing). The best is yet to come! Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/15/2015 10:01:01 AM   but you’re buying an almost or maybe brother in-law a house??? I would be "trading" basically. I take house in Village, they get a home in Odessa. It would be a delayed transaction. Not giving anything nor buying anyone. btb754 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2015 7:32:01 AM   Well, my time is coming to an end here. I have become addicted to dancing at Storm. I am told it is the best nightclub in Nikolaev and I can walk from my apartment. Every night at Storm is fun. Last night was memorable. I'm out on the floor and all of a sudden a middle linebacker (American football position denoting a large, muscular individual) type guy has his arm around me and is shouting in my ear. Turns out he is a soldier just back from the fighting at the Donetsk airport. He wants to drink with me, take a picture with me and meet the girls I am with. He is pretty drunk. So I work on keeping him on the dance floor so he can sober up a little while he keeps trying to go grab other people's drinks. I'm buying him cherry juice and more or less keeping him under control. Normally the bouncers toss guys this drunk. However, he is a soldier. A big one. And I am generally keeping him on the dance floor and out of trouble. So he was allowed to stay. One of the girls I was with was stunning. And I spend the evening dancing with my new best friend Andrew. btb754 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2015 7:37:25 AM   I have come to appreciate I can have a driver, a car and a housekeeper in Nikolaev for much less than the cost of a wife. I'm not sure about labor costs in Odessa. In Nikolaev, wage rates break my heart. I really like walking to Storm, but with a driver, it would be a moot point. I have one night in Kiev. What is a good nightclub near a nice inexpensive hotel? My flight is at one in the afternoon, so I can stay out late. TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2015 10:21:21 AM   btb754 - Lybid hotel in Kiev is supposed to be good. Rooms 500 UAH a night. In the hotel there is Cocktail Bar "111" which is supposed to be good. I've never been. btb754 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2015 12:22:38 PM   The stunning girl I was with last night was under dressed. She was upset I wanted to go to Storm. I have seen her in nice outfits and she had plenty of time. I suspect the outfits were not hers. That her wardrobe is extremely limited. Life is so very hard for so many people here. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2015 4:36:01 PM   I like a bar called "Shooters" which is near(3km) the WW2 museum and Motherland statue. here is website in English: http://shooters .kiev.ua/en/ note the space after shooters needs to be removed. I thought you were going to stay for awhile! beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2015 7:03:02 PM   'I have one night in Kiev. What is a good nightclub near a nice inexpensive hotel? ' That sounds odd coming from someone which didn't mind blowing wads in Nikolaev. Just to set your budget, $80 transfers to from airport for the 1 night. Why don't you stay at another AirBNB? Sure you can get one in center for $25. Nightclubs?? Can be very expensive to get in.... plus drinks. I like the Arena area. There is Rus and Ibis nearby...$50 OR Kiev left bank much much cheaper..$20!!!! Dancing??? My fav is Carribean Club off Tarasa Shevchenko. Hey, maybe you can stay out real late and walk straight to train station from there and catch skybus to airport and save some buck???? ;-))) Let us know your experience!!! btb754 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2015 7:57:49 PM   "That sounds odd coming from someone which didn't mind blowing wads in Nikolaev. " I meant local prices rather than international prices ($180/night). AirBnB usually has a multinight minimum. Check-in is a little complicated because there is no front desk etc. Better for longer stays. "I thought you were going to stay for awhile!" It will be 30 days instead of 16. I just decided to hang out in Nikolaev for the rest of the time. Brain dead easy. Nightclub was fun. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/20/2015 6:48:27 PM   'I meant local prices rather than international prices ($180/night' Anything on net is international, if you spoke Russian then you would get local rates!!! I gave you rates for inexpensive hotels.....you usually get what you pay for..... Some apts on Airbnb are 1 night minimum but you are right most have 3+ nights. I see now why you ask for hotel, yes less complicated but..........for one night in Kiev for first time IS complicated itself. I hope I did help you in some way. btb754 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2015 12:00:39 AM   Next to last night at Storm (and thus in Nikolaev). I have finally met the dance partner of my dreams. Likes to dance with me. Stays with me on the floor. Did belly dance for years and uses those moves to great effect on the disco floor. Tries new moves with me. Has fun. Sexy as hell. She admitted this was a once in a lifetime experience for her. I recall guys complaining about girls who wanted to meet at a nice restaurant or to drink champagne or whatever. Well I am a not so attractive older American. If a beautiful girl wants to hang with me for an evening, I will certainly show her a good time. Tonight there was a pole/strip dance show about. Now I have a background in physics. I have clearly not stayed current. I have no idea how that girl performed some of her moves. Mesmerizing. btb754 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2015 10:01:50 AM   I exchanged dollars at a street bank. Over 20 Hrvna. I met an American the other night at Storm. We bowled a round. He was proud he exchanged all of his dollars on arrival. Got 17 something. Go figure. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Ukraine Trip Report Dec 2014-Jan2015
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