Martin: Been done by several. Or she could just turn up on the eastern side of the tunnel and walk through like a zillion others do every year? There's more holes in the UK immigration system than a Bangkok knock shop.
Devilmaycare, danny didn't disappear, he just changed his colors for now.
What's wrong with a little witty repartee'? Discourse is the door to enlightenment. You don't necessarily have to engage in it, but you sure as hell can learn from it.
Well some of us, law abiding citizens that is, like to do things, marriage wise, legally and not have to 'sneak' our partner in illegally and thereafter live in fear of the wrong knock on the door someday.
I finally read all this - front to back. Interesting subject. More interesting are the opinions. I must say, as I am still new to this, that I am quite amused. When I first started searching the Ukraine/Russian woman idea that I was very taken by the number of very attractive younger ladies who indicated a man of 50, even 55 were in their age range. 30+ yrs diff. I can only assume that maybe there are a few who actually believe this themselves. Very early a few on this post have provided good insight to the "age difference" dilemma. I have actually discovered - only by reasoning of letters - that there are women who are thirty who would do very well with a man of fifty. And after having met a couple, one who wanted to have kids but in subsequent correspondance was willing to go through life without that chance, and another who straight up was willing to forego the child desire to be with me, I can say that it dependes on the person. Perhaps I am a desirable person. Maybe they are bullshitting. But I have no doubts as to the sincerety of the two ladies involved. Yet I went for an older maiden. The specifics are that we had corresponded enough to know we had very much in common. And similar life goals. She is only 11 yrs younger than I. But I dismissed the idea of a twenty something younger lady for many of the reasons stated earlier. Sure if I spent the next five years gong through the process of "interviewing" a hundred young women I may have found one that fit the bill. But realistically why? I have dicovered a lady who in no uncetain terms I feel compatable with. Intellect is foremost in my desire. So to be taken by a hot young thing for the only reason of having a good looking, young and sexy woman is of no consequence to me. Nor should it be to anyone looking to have a realistic and lasting relationship with a woman. Does she pass the "eyes closed" test? Regardless of how she looks now - if of course you are in this for the long run - is this a person who in twenty years you can sit on the back porch and have a meaningful conversation with?
That was my goal. And to not have to explain life and teach her the ills of society. Maybe I am one who got lucky and found a lady that had her shit together and was in the same boat as I. But I never even gave a second thought to bringing a sweet young hotty to America. The odds are against it succeeding in the long run. Age is just a number. And if you have a connection with someone much younger and it lasts, good for you. But the chances of that being a reality are slim.
Well said julian !!!
There are a lot of great WOMEN over there, some bad ones too.
But I dont beleive there are many GIRLS that would be remotly suited to our 50's habits and lyfstles :-)
I have always said 15 yrs MAX !!! Anymore and and you a riding for a hiding, we (my wife and I) know of many younger (in 20's) who have gone to America and Canada, all but one fell apart within 2 years. The one that is still going seems to be more of a business relationship, they are both in a business were he needs her and she needs him, They get along fine, but the romour has it that she has a bit on the side.
LOL
I have just read the start of this tread.
Bloody hell - 4 years went quick !!!
Izi (Steve) started this thread - nice guy. I likened him to a loose cannon. He put in an immense effort but seemed to go out off half cocked (no pun intended)and went up dead end roads every time.
It was very difficult and frustrating times back then, going through the immigration process and in fear that we would be rejected and our lives shattered. But - it wasn’t all the difficult either now looking back. Need to keep focused - take advice on here and vent your frustrations on here and have someone kick you in the arse and bring you back to earth and on track again helps also.
Martin: The bottom line is, "marriage" IS important whether any of us like it or not. I think it is important for a whole host of reasons and it IS far more complicated than simply moving in together. Add international, particularly 7-10 thousand miles international, age gap, language gap, culture gap and there is a world of difference between marriage and hunting around the FSU singles scene. Those who choose to discount the differences are very welcome to do so but..........
But you're speaking as an inter-continental, there isn't such a distance nor cultural gap, just as examples, between two fellow Europeans as in western and eastern Europe!
Martin: As a European, if you marry a Russian, it is an intercontinental marriage. It is also worth remembering the entire world is not located in Europe and FWIW Russia is Asia. Many guys married to a Russian woman would not be easily convinced they married an Asian. Russians (Mrs Included) pass it off on the “Asiatic” basis.
That said, undoubtedly Europeans have many advantages in the pursuit of RW, of course distance and not least of all, somewhat closer cultural or historic ties. I think the “Euros”, if they have their eyes open, have the best singles bar in the world right at their back door into which they can walk pretty much any time. As for the rest of us, the “cover charge” is $3-5K and a few days lining up to get in.
Martin! Damn it will you stop!!! I thought only Americans thought America was the center of the universe. Now Dun is informing me it's the Europeans!! You sly buggers!!
Maxi, Izi's problem is he fell in line with Toads crap, then had his incredible lists of demands for women. A bit dictatorial. Then comes back here and says the search for Russian women is only for guys with money?? I'm still wondering how I did it. I don't have money as some of my contemporaries do.
Well my ex boss was in to shagging Filipino's and kept bragging to me that I needed to find myself an Asian lady.
My wife might be of a light complexion, she might be of Russian (birth) nationality, she might be a Ukrainian passport holder but she was born in Uzbekistan and, technically, that makes her Asian which I had great joy in shooting my ex boss down in flames with. If I dare call her, to her face, an Asian then I'm in big trouble. :)
But sorry to disappoint you Dunromin, Russia, as far east as the Ural mountains, is in Europe as are such countries as Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus etc. Are you seriously trying to tell me that, as an example, the Russian Federation city of Kaliningrad is in Asia?
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-continent-map.htm
Kaliningrad: At the 2002 Census, its population was 430,003, an increase from the 401,280 recorded in the 1989 Census. Its ethnic composition is 77.9% Russians, 8.0% Belarusians, 7.3% Ukrainians, 1.9% Lithuanians[1], 0.6% Germans and 0.5% Poles.[2]
About 7/8 of the Russian Federation is in Asia. BTW, try telling the Kremlin that Kaliningrad (East Prussia) is part of Europe. Even less will it be “European” if the ‘Murricans plant the missile “shield” a few miles up the road.
Regarding the “Asian” thing with RW. I’m rather fond of jabbing my ol’ lady (Siberian originally) with that one and recently I had a pile of documents dumped on my desk. What I found was her genealogy with the main highlighted points (Go figure) demonstrating her lines back through the Nordic “pervasion”. No prizes for guessing who cooked dinner. Ah well, I have to give her that one, at 5’9”, 110 Lbs , Blond hair and Blue eyes, I’m hard pressed to make the “Asian” thing stick.
Anyway, I have no clue as to what any of that has to do with age gap marriages which until one has experienced long term they remain unqualified to advise on. There's a world of difference between bedding down with a hot young piece of flesh for a few days or weeks and living together long term as husband and wife with all it entails.
It bears no significance if the Yanks plant a missile shield here, there or anywhere, Kaliningrad shall not move and it's geographical location shall remain in Europe, land borders with Lithuania and Poland and Denmark across the water. If, all of a sudden, there is a piece of Asia slap bang in the middle of Europe then it's news to me and news to a hell of a lot of other people.
Previous post you said that Russia was Asia, now 7/8 of Russia is in Asia, we're getting closer Dunromin!
Hi Mike
Yea - those were good days and some good posting but !!!
Bloody Izi used to make me laugh though. Do you know if GLToad stuck with the US women he rehooked up with ???
Hope you are enjoying your summer. Been meaning to write you an email, will do soon. Still trying to get a direction on your US$$$ - VERY confusing !!!
Actually we're not :-) So far we have learned from you that international is more or less irrelevant, marriage is more or less irrelevant, seemingly age is the same and you have a better geographic knowledge of Europe than I do. The more I see the more I wonder if you are even married to an FSU woman and the more I see of the clapped out biplane mumblers posts, the more I wonder if it has ever set foot in the FSU. I guess we just have to take both your word for it....................... "Caveat Emptor".
There was another, some 3 years ago, that accused that I had never been to FSU and, of my very then next post I ask of the moderator(s) to track my IP and Olga, bless her, tracked my IP to being in Ukraine. I also, around that time, provided copies of my passport Ukraine visa's and stamps, Uzbekistan visa's and stamps, since that time I have also travelled to the FSU countries of Latvia and Russia, but you keep taking the cheap shots Dunromin and all because I have exposed your geographical ignorance. :)
Peter haven't anymore of a clue on Toad(Gustav) than I do the US dollar right now. I haven't heard from Toad in over three years. I think this was some sideline hobby for him not really sure.
Yes those were the good old days. When there were far more serious guys and a better educated lot on the pursuit of a woman from the FSU. Especially guys who really shared good information. Most of those guys are married to a woman from the FSU now and still are.