God I hate some Americans. Surprised many of you posters haven't killed yourselves horrifically by now. Probably hate American women because they can see how sociopathic you guys are.
Anyway....
For me it's not about where she's from, it's more about the increased incidence of stunning and obtainable women. Here in London I can manage about an 8/10 in terms of attractiveness. Any higher and it's strictly the preserve of millionaires. I'm off to Bucharest in a couple of months to meet two very attractive career women. No guarantee they'll be long term relationship material of course. I think any well rounded individual will know that it's far better to marry someone who you understand completely, than have a half-baked relationship with someone you have very little in common with.
Up to date I've had Russian, Ukrainian, Czech and Polish girlfriends. In my experience there are bitches and princesses from all those countries in equal measure. What I do find however is women east of central europe are more likely to be attractive and slim. Just walking down the street can be a delight. It's always good to find someone who isn't a saint. The sex is always better =)
You're commenting on a post that is over three years old. But I know what you mean; some days it takes all the strength of my European butler to pull the gun out of my mouth because I'm just so miserable. You're right; us Americans are sociapathic. BTW, I can see right through your curtains. Bwa ha ha ha ha!
I'm going to stop from totally blasting you because you did say "some American" but you did lay out a pretty broad generalization nonetheless.
I wish I was a swinging dick, metrosexual London hipster douchebag just like you Hellbound!
My Best friend as of late is a young Lady 29 years old from Moldova, she is attending a university here in the USA and will receive her PHD in Music this spring and will become a composer and music professor at the school she attends now. A very smart girl she also speaks 5 languages, including english which is better than most peoples english that live here. She is also very attractive, She caught my eye the first time I met her which was about 1 year ago. I am 17 years older than her. We get along great and have many discussions on the differences of our countries and our likes and dislikes and we are brutally honest about our countries strong and weak points, So I think the things she tells me about Moldova and the women and there likes and dislikes is very accurate also she has lived in the usa for about 4 years now, only because of attending school. She has told me on several occasion Moldovian women would much rather seek a man from europe or foreign country other than usa men and she explained one of the main reasons was the spoiled lifestyle and attitude the men here display which appears to be kind of lazy nothing to do with money, she says she notices this same attitude in her students, they are lazy in most part, not all of course but compared to her country where you learn to work for what you receive and study really hard for your A in school and the teacher or boss has no mercy for the lazy or one who doesn't try there best they just fail end of story no free ride. She loves many things about the USA and admits the economy is a little better, but she has no intention on settling here she misses her family and her country but she would like to settle in europe some where with her very poor boy friend from chilie where he lives now, And she is the most loyal and faithful girl to him and honest, I know, believe me, I wish she was more than just my best friend. So that is my first hand view of moldovian women, oh and by the way she says 20 years differance in age to a Moldovian girl in a relationship to a man is nothing, so go for it!!!!!
I personally have found that if a woman initiates correspondence with you and you didn't initiate it with her through some sort of website or agency it is almost ALWAYS a scam. Anyone else agree?
"I personally have found that if a woman initiates correspondence with you and you didn't initiate it with her through some sort of website or agency it is almost ALWAYS a scam."
I agree, this has been my experience on several websites. However, I sometimes get a contact on lavaplace.com that I am confident is legit, and on elenasmodels, more than half look completely legitimate.
I make it a point when I can to ask the lady if she has other suitors. They always do, and the one who initiates the correspondence has the most. There is a chance that you will not answer, so she must have or should have sent at least a dozen more. Of course, she then has a choice. If you answer or visit, then there are still others in her mind. If it doesn't turn out, I wouldn't call it a scam. Of course, if she leads you on to get money, it is.
I think there is another category of scammers that has not been mentioned here much. There is one who just does it for the money and has no intention of marriage, and there is one who does, but did not choose you. The second category is not necesarily a scam until she uses deception to get money from you. She gave you a chance, but she has other suitors. If you throw your money around, as Beemer says, and she uses deception to part you from it, then she is a scammer. But I think some scammers are sometimes also genuinely looking for a mate. You are just not it.
this sounds a bit ungentleman like but women are devious so fair.
i would never give a woman money unless sex had been had, a very respected friend of mine who married a UW who looked like a porno star (she was a dentist, WTF! etc) said that and he is right.
and then limit the amount of fiscal reward to that which could score a reasonable hookah in teh amsterdam RLD for the same jiggle/cash ratio.
that way if she does bail you or scam you then you can take pride in noting she only got the going rate for pay 2 play.
I generally also think you should try and keep all emotional involvement to a minimum until shes dropped her knicks, that way if she plays you for a fool youve had a portion.
i dont know about the writing to you bit, on some big sites there is 38,000 odd womens, and i dont know how many men let alone serious men. if you have nice photo and are lower age I think you get a lot of women writing you simply because of competition in your favour, but if some 19 year old sex bomb is writing to you and you are 60 and ate all teh pies its obviously bogus.
I should say reading your posts that I pity you, but in fact, it's not true, I pity the women who have no choice but to be with you.
I lived in Chisinau with my FRENCH girlfriend (because one can live in Chisinau without actually looking for a 10 or twenty years younger woman to marry. Same women who, most suprisingly, LOVE being with GOOD LOOKING older men ;) (LOL !)
What is this thing you keep mentionning about "FSU" women being more mature and more encline to accept a 20 years gap difference with occidental men.
The best proof of the contraty is that you keep reassuring yourself with pretexts such as "we give them a better life", "they very readily accept th age gap". Well buddies, it seems that you're only trying to convince yourselves.
What do you think ? That these women are after a reciprocical love story with you ? Doesn't it hurt your pride that they are after your wallet only...
Just take a look at this report "The Role of “Marriage Agencies” in the Sexual Exploitation and Trafficking of Women from the Former Soviet Union" : it just pinpoints all your stereotypes about "FSU" women" : http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/marriage_agencies_fsu.pdf
Or remain delusional about it !
To the person who might moderate this message, I'm just trying to be enlightning here. I'm not especially looking down on you for your actions, but please, ponder over it, it might help you understand the real motives of these women...
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Well, well ..
I been reading all your comment..
And I am not very impressed, how you Americans feel about Moldova girls and mentality
Let me tell you something… about us Moldavian women, and I will tell my life love story.
I am 28 years old. From moldova.
Married since 2009, USA. Alabama. My husband is 29 years old.
I met him in Franc while I was on my training, France sucks, the same as French do…
I am from Moldova. Poor family, did not see my mother 7 years now, because I been traveling and she was working aboard illegal in Israel.
My father is heart ill, and I was the only one that would care about father and younger sisters existence and life needs, mother was working to make money for my father operation that would cost over 20. 000 euro.
And I was with a Moldavian man- from 15 years old. Until I left to France- 22 years old.
We were great, but because I sow- that I deserve more then Moldavian attitude from a man, I decided, to make a commitment, and get the man that I deserve and that will understand me. Better in English then in Moldavian.
My ex boy friend was kind too, but he used to drink as they all do there. This was the part I did not like.
I met my husband in France. 3 weeks spend together, then I left France, got back to Moldova, My husband came to visit me in Moldova, and he was amassed the way people live there in those poor villages, but I made him see everything special about my Moldavian life, even cut a pig with my father and made goods for the winter with him, imagine and American, never seen a pig in his life. GOD, he was just full of fat , on his hands and clothes and helping my daddy ….was funny.. for me….
So.. After some time..i got a training in 2 mouth for US, for 1 year. In marketing, lived with my husband, saw what is going on in Alabama, understand what I like, what I don’t like, and left US, and left my husband too.
His family loved me, gave me what my family did not give me. But I did leave them all.
While being in US. 1 year on my training- when my visa ended I had 30 days to stay more in USA. My husband asked me to marry him. I refused, just because I was not sure what I want, and if I truly love him but beside this- I was rushed, by time- to think in 30 day if I want to Mary him or not.
And in the last days- my attorney told me that I have no right to Marry an American citizen while I am on my training visa, so I had to leave, even if I would want to marry him that would not happened.
Back to Moldova- 1 years alone.
Understood, that he is the one, not mater I like or not Alabama, is hard or not for me to be over ocean, not being able to see my family my friends, not being able to understand people in US, them not understanding me.. I made my commitment.
I left Moldova, and I am happy, with my husband
Our love, grows every day.
It took me 1 year to wait for my fiancé visa, I paid 3000 $ and he paid 3000 $ to the attorney that helped us with papers, and the consulate that issued fiancé visa is not located in Moldova, it is in Romania, which is Europe, and me Moldavian- had to get visa for Romania, every time I would need to send some papers or have an interview.
Was taffy.. was.. hard.. I was screaming on the phone at him, but was not his fault was… just damn rules.
But I finally got fiancé visa, I finally—was in his hand and I will be forever.
I will not let him run, even if he will wish too
I am a great wife, even if it is so hard, to just talk to my family, and hearing they are sick, you can’t help them… is painful. But. I had to make this step…
Now, I wanted to make a kid- what do you think?
I can’t make kids now.
I am waiting for my green card, have no right to work, and have no even an ID, no drive lice’s, not car. I am stack in home 24 hours. My husband works, sure he can’t take me any time I need something.. I have no friends yet; his mother helps me a lot in this matter. But basically I can tell you now this:
I feel like a monkey in the cage, because I had a car in Moldova, I had friends I had everything- but not love.
Now,I have love but nothing around it. And I have to love it this way.
Yes- this is how America treats me. Is my treat. And I will enjoy it. time will arrange, I am a strong woman. My life back was harder then now, I had day that I would be eating bread and water- just to save some money to pay my sister studies. In France I was working 6 hours per day, in banking, and after work I was making babysitting and clean houses.. Until 2 am… to be able- to buy a stake 1 time per month, and try some season fruits. Paris is expensive.
And to begin the paper work here in US, I had to go to an hospital where they gave me some 6 injection, vaccines, and told me 1 year- don’t make kids, you just can’t make them…
It is funny to hear this from a stranger Mexican doctor.
So now we will have to wait. 1 year more, and then go back to Moldova- have a marriage there, and come back have a kid. We got married in Las Vegas in 2 hours, in a chapel. It happened so fast. My husband was on his work travel. And I was just enjoying the hotel. And YESSSS we got married. But I want to be in a white dress too, to be nice and have my friends, family around me, on my marriage.
Life is not easy for me- Moldavian in US, but as long he is near me- I don’t care about Alabama red necks, and their mentality.
I am just happy, yes, there are days I cry a lot, but more I cry – faster I get used to American life.
And Thanks God I did not get married for my exboy friend, even he was great guy-I would be not so much loved and respected, as I am now.
And yes- I am spoiled, girl, people love my accent, sometime they don’t get my jokes, I don’t get theirs but is fine- I have time to learn.
Have fun guys, I know is taffy to get someone from Moldova- but you might think again- if you r
I hope you hang around this forum and make comments whenever you would like. (might even stop some of the infighting between men that has nothing to do with this forum).
You remind me of my girlfriend from Kishinev - though there are significant differences.
I should point out - I am an American from the country and though I have never actually butchered a pig myself, I came from a town small enough that our Saturday morning entertainment was watching a few pigs and cows butchered at the local meatmarket. If you got there first you could stand ten feet away in the open air and will never forget the putrid smell. Now THAT was entertainment, for a 10 year old boy.
I must say, you and your (now) husband paid quite a bit for the attorney to represent you and to get you the fiance visa. When I did it myself I paid some $130 for filing fees, a few dollars for her medical exam - and I flew he and her mother to Bucharest Romania for the interview (as you refer to). Back then (2005) it was not needed for her to get a Visa to go to Romania as Romania was not yet part of the European Union (I think).
You sound like a very determined woman and I am sure you and your husband will make it through any adversity.
To have a relation by Agency in Moldova or with Moldova Ladies is extremely difficult to avoid scamm.I f you know for real this lady ask for personal email or telephone number, of course better she knows english language.
I have had since one year now a relation to a Profile posted in AOB and Anastasiaweb and altough I knew for real she is working for the agency as she doesnt want to have correspondence out from these sites.
So the first you have to do is to apart her from Agencies there will be not enough evidence she is not a scammer alltheway.
And dont think any Lady is so keen to change all his life going for a new life in fact only a few do this the others say this just for fun or take easily your money.
And never send money if you dont know very well the Lady,
After 1 year daily letters I realised so well That AOB and Anastasia web are both a fraud and high tech scammers.