I don't come around here too often these days and was shocked to read of your misfortune. Your posts were always filled with politeness and common sense and you never got drawn into the bunfights. I commend you.
No doubt you will get advice from all corners and if you will allow me, I would like to add my two-penneth.
I have watched countless men in the services, and since, go through the trauma of divorce and am no stranger to it myself. While there have been some men who didn't give a damn, the good guys are the ones that seem to take it on the chin the most. In their effort to act honourably, they are wide open to being taken to the cleaners. I don't know if you have seen it but I found the movie, 'The War of The Roses' with Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner a cautionary tale of what can go wrong in the divorce process. I recommend you watch it.
If my reading of you is correct, you will try and 'do the right thing', despite being hurt. The rub is, what will your wife do? From my understanding of your post. This seems pre-meditated. RW or UW, they have this ability to cut off their feelings and become incredibly cold and calculating. And who can blame them? For many women, their priority is to provide security for themselves and their children. The relationship is over. All that remains is how best to secure their future. Any tactic is legitimate in this pursuit. Most of all, using children.
If you are determined to be an influence in your son's life, then legal advice is a must. Especially when the next 'daddy' comes along. You must put aside sentiment and seek sole or joint custody, if possible. On whatever grounds you can think of. If you don't and the relationship is tense, then prepare for an unhappy time of it.
If she gets sole custody with you receiving visiting rights, I'm pretty sure she will lead you a merry dance, which could create great stress and disappointment.
Some problems I faced.
1. The mother stops caring about quality of school and sends the child to Borstal inc.. the only qualification for entry is saying 'f**k' at the gate. The mother says she will attend the school play/sports day, to prevent you attending, then doesn't bother.
2. A new boyfriend comes along. Within a week, he is 'Daddy Mike/John/Steve' [fill in the blank].
3. The new boyfriend wants to create 'a family' of his own. Your presence reminds him that he is not daddy and they set about squeezing you out and manipulating the child against you.
3. She agrees to a 'fair settlement' with you, then scraps it after seeing a lawyer, who says she can get the pension, the policies, the inheritance, maintenance, the house, the kids, the car, etc...
4. She claims sickness, neglect, abuse, your drinking, poor parenting and so on.. to elicit sympathy at the hearing.
5. She kept records of all your finances in anticipation of leaving, while dissipating her own.
6. She decides to change the children's names, change country, anything to break away from you.
7. She uses your desperate desire to stay close to your son, to manipulate you. While she is out at the Three Ferrets, dancing, you are babysitting. She finds she needs extra money for schooling, medical care, dentistry, clothing. Guess who is the banker?
8. Ensure that minimum visitation rights are cast in stone. It is always better to have flexibility but you may find excuses crop up far too often, invariably just as you are about to leave to collect the child.
I beat myself up for 10 years trying to maintain strong ties to my children. It was extremely draining. I don't know your history. You may be fortunate. But it does no harm to make absolutely sure of your rights in all the above situations. As thunder says, do your homework. I like his suggestion about premeditated fraud.
My father said to me 'half of nothing is nothing'. Yet, it isn't easy to hide assets these days. I think it is grossly unfair that the legal system does not take other's behaviour more into account, when making awards. Perhaps because it is too easy to invent a case or too confrontational.
If you can gain custody, it is you that is in the driving seat. If there is any possibility of this, I would pursue it. You could save yourself a great deal of expense and difficulty. This is what I wished I had done.
If you are still in shock and wounded, it's hard to think clearly.
Expect the best. Plan for the worst. And take no prisoners. She's not. And if she succeeds, she's laying the ground for more victims.
Monada. This is humour. An attempt to be lighthearted. Right?
You are correct. We pick ourselves up. We have no choice. But western men try to marry for life. Why else marry? Are children to have new fathers every 3-5 years? Did your mother change your father every few years?
Why is a child so devastated when a parent is lost? I don't think a child believes your idea.
And if this is true about Russian/Ukrainian women, western men would never seek a wife.
QC:
thanks for the advice,quite a lot of which I've already taken on board,and already closed a lot of loopholes.The legal eagles are doing their bit now and whilst I know it could be a bumpy ride,it's gonna be a darn sight more bumpy for my ex.
Shock,hurt and a number of other emotions ruled my head for the first few days,and then the grey matter began to work properly again,due in no small measure to a lot of good advice I have been fortunate enough to receive.
For obvious reasons nothing pertinent will be discussed here or anywhere else with the exception of my lawyer,but lets just say the outlook is growing brighter by the day.
Thanks again for taking the time to throw your opinion my way,it's appreciated.
My best friend is married to a Ukrainian girl. She was lovely, all sweetness and light when they visited us this year, but instinctively knew she was not what she seemed to be. They have been married now since 2002 and in I wonder if the same thing will happen to him. She says she 'loves' him but I wonder what the divorce stats are for Ukrainians marry outside their culture. Does anyone have these?
Does anyone here know what they are talking about? I’ve been reading the stories here for some time and think you are all a bunch of idiots!
If you want to learn something, I mean >REALLY< learn something, then read this whole story from beginning to end!
It’s a real eye opener!
I don’t think this is a very good story line. Surely he must have done something to chase his wife away. Then, maybe he couldn’t do something. These Slavic women have a tremendous sex drive, not all men are equipped to handle them.
I couldn’t be happier with my 6 wives, 5 of which are Ukrainian. The babies will arrive soon and the home will be full of joy!
These wonderful women keep me young!
Mitt is another bogus profile. yet another loser personality who doesnt have the looks or the money to afford Ukrainian women.
Its not hard to get one. easy to find. difficult part is deciding which one to marry
Oh Mit,
Now come on,
you're starting to sound like jetmba. coyote, ' Too Successful ' that is.
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I like the fact that "dumb a" has to scrap and scrounge, and beg and dream to get even a letter from a scammer, and that jealousy over the fact I have been TOO successful eats him away.
So successful, that he needs to “line up” 2 or 3 others, just incase his primary plans,,,, “fall apart”??!!
Jetmba:
“The reason I do it is that I meet no more than four women at the three Romance Socials, but most often around two. If THOSE were to fall apart aftr the Socials, since I don't use agencies, I need a back-up. Kind of like the floatation device in the seat on your flight over. You hope never to have to use it. But its there. “
Your ' TOO successful ' makes me smile also...Especially when you're a 10 veteran of being TOO successful and what have you got to show for it???
Sweet Fuck All!
You're going to be like the bunch of old ladies I saw in Sevastopol...
Singing songs and thinking of the Good Old Days, When they were young, vibrant, full of laughter, being chased by young men.
Memories!
This is what you'll be doing, on your own, alone, with a bottle of Whiskey in your withered hand.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
I'm going to be "like a bunch of old ladies"? Will I be growing multiple legs, heads and bodies? How is that going to happen, oh wise one. And when?
I'm an OLD man still being pursued by young ladies (my 21 year old dragged ME onto the dance floor, not the other way around). Whereas YOU can't get a lady young OR old.
I guess its better for you than for me - because never having been pursued, you will never have anything to miss.
Amazing how you rationalize your complete and utter failure.
I'm sure jetmba. coyote has all the photographs of the young girls in a photo album, called, " Trophy Album ".
If the Police were to search jetmba's house, and stumble upon the photo album, I'm sure ' Pedophile ' would cross their minds.
This is the ' opportunity ' for jetmba. coyote to be affiliated with AFA and Jims ( will suck cock for money ) agency scams.
At least the cops might buy this story instead of jetmba telling them how the girls in FSU countries find him in ' 30 minutes ' and want to have a sleep ' 3 hours ' later.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.