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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Cost of Passport Author Post durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/3/2009 12:09:33 PM   rb, You are obviously what I call a "hopeless romantic" (I am too, this is how I earned the name durak). This makes you the perfect victim for international dating vampires. God help me, I'm afraid that there is part of you that relishes becoming the victim. If this is true, you've got to straighten yourself out around this, or be destroyed. I keep hoping to read here some plain good news about this situation, but realistically, the odds are against you. Be strong, brother. Don't lose sight of this truth: for lots of women around this world, you would be the man of their dreams. You don't have to beg for little droplets of attention from some uncaring vixen. When you find the woman who wants to remake her world around you, it will be crystal clear. [Note: All of this advice is for durak, but if it can be useful to ragingbull or anybody else, then great.] ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/3/2009 2:00:56 PM   I got on this thread just to ask about the passport. It was not my intention that my personal life be discussed here in detail. But, people got into it and I answered them the best I could. Then, I thought others might want to see what happened. Noone seems to like the way I handle things. Yet, it is the only way I know how. It will be my gain or my loss. Helping out the family of the one you are intending to marry is not new to me. People from my old country (Philippines) do it all the time. They send money, and American goods. Where Filipinos are many in the US, you can see that many businesses run exclusively by sending money and boxes of goods. Filipinos are not unique. Look at Mexico. Yet, the way FSU is handled seems to be different, at least in the eyes of many here. Of course, one must give and not expect anything in return and not to be extravagant or boasting. Although I am sure scams exist in the Philippines, most of what I heard are mainly from this and other forums. I am sure that if one goes there to find a mate, other than going to the FSU, the scams will be greatly reduced. Mr. Durak, if I am a hopeless romantic, then so be it. I can always find another FSU woman. There are thousands of them. I am still in it because I want to follow this to a conclusion, either way. I understand there are other avenues. I left my house to my ex-wife when I divorced her to keep her from getting alimony. I don't have a house. There are two women at church who are American, but I consider FSU quality who are available and give me hugs and frequently make excuses to be near to me. They both have houses. One of them have two and as Colin would say, her biological clock looks like its in overdrive. I am member of a Filipino forum. At one time there was three people offering someone for me to go marry. It is now down to one. She is tall at 5'9", unusually tall for a Filipina, very pretty and would put her against "Miss Wow" anytime. The discussion at the forum is not whether or not she would like me. It is whether or not I would like her. Trying to look at this objectively, I understand my gf maybe with another man. But, the question in my mind is this man, if he existed could not even pay for her passport. I still think the most likely story is her work trying to drum up business for the winter months. Dansing, Gemini have said it, and my gf has said it. These women do not want to be heard speaking English on the phone. She told me that at the beginning of our relationship. devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/3/2009 3:25:09 PM   "These women do not want to be heard speaking English on the phone" True, especially when they have "company" whos suspicious would be aroused .... RB, because you didn't visit her when you said you would, she applied standard FSU-woman-logic to situation which essentially is to attribute the absolute worst possible motive to you based purely on the physical evidence of the situation i.e. shes assuming you've lost interest in her or are not serious. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/3/2009 3:51:53 PM   She agreed to wait for me. Of course, she might have been lying, but I am not willing at this time to assume that. TopSandwich Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/4/2009 6:07:41 AM   "she applied standard FSU-woman-logic to situation which essentially is to attribute the absolute worst possible motive to you based purely on the physical evidence of the situation" LOL! That is so accurate! ---------------------------- rb, there is nothing wrong with helping out the family of the one you intend to marry....as long as she also intends to marry you. I think this is the thing that seems off to many of us who are reading about your situation. I had a somewhat similar situation last year. I was dating a lady in Ukraine who was divorced and had a young daughter. She had a small salary and never had enough money even for basic things. After some time, I offered to help her financially. To me, this meant that our relationship was very serious and that I was demonstrating my commitment and responsibility. To her, it had a totally different meaning. She basically expected me to help her and felt that accepting it didn't signify anything in particular about our relationship. She gave me just enough attention and affection to keep me in the relationship, but never enough to make me feel secure. There were times when she wouldn't answer her phone for the weekend, and then she would call me from work on Monday morning and tell me that she had lost her phone or something. My friends all told me to forget about her, but I was like you and wanted to stick it out to the end. The end came when I understood her true character. I was pretty disgusted with myself for not seeing it earlier. I was blinded by her beauty and her vulnerability. But, I was glad that I saw her true character when I did, and not after I was even more involved. It's all a learning experience. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/4/2009 12:44:25 PM   Top Sandwich, each situation is different. Never did I feel my gf was unavailable. She always answered the phone - week-ends, on the bus (whispering), on the movies, or eating dinner (call me in 15 minutes). She has not lied to me, even now. She told me she might be going to another country, and that is where she is. Whatever it is I gave her, I am expecting, but not demanding marriage. TopSandwich Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/4/2009 3:06:57 PM   Yes, of course, each situation is different, and your lady sounds much better than the woman I mentioned. My main point was that the meaning of my giving her money was different for me than it was for her. Part of my problem was assuming that she understood it in the same way that I did. At any rate, I hope that your relationship has different ending and turns out much better than mine did! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/4/2009 4:17:22 PM   By the way Top Sandwich, we have agreed to marry. We decided that when I was in Ukraine and confirmed it with our conversations afterwards. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/6/2009 7:49:14 PM   I called her twice now. She sounded happy to hear from me. She answered the phone in spite of being with a few people both times. I called her in the evening (Italy time) both times, and she told me to call her at 5 AM, Italy time. I still don't know what city she's in or what work she is doing. She said the people she's with are her co-workers. She said she tried many times to text me. She told me not to worry. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/7/2009 12:21:09 AM   She is in Torino, Italy. She will be back in Ukraine before the end of the month. I am back in business. anotroubled Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/12/2009 11:16:51 PM   I am a Lebanese man married to a ukranian lady. we have been married for 7 years and living in nigeria. we have a son who recently turned 5 years old. she traveled to ukraine on vacation to visit her family, and after reaching she informed me that the embassy is not letting her travel back to lebanon with our son where i am waiting for them because they need our marriage to be registered in ukraine otherwise the law will not allow her to travel with our son. She said that this law is applied for children above 5 years of age. She asked me to send her a copy of my passport and our marriage certificate stamped by the nigerian embassy because she said those are the required documents to apply for a marriage cerificate in ukraine. I'm having some problems with my wife and i am worried that maybe she is lying about this and just wants to register or marriage in ukraine because maybe she is planning to divorce me and wants to be entitled of rights, so my registering our marriage in ukraine i will have to abide by the ukrainian law. maybe i am just paranoid.. I hope so.. PLEASE someone tell me.. is there such law regarding the child not being able to travel with his mother after he reaches 5 years of age unless the marriage is registered in ukraine? PLEASE PLEASE someone help me.. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/13/2009 12:46:21 PM   Sounds a little suspicious, where was your son born? GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/13/2009 1:26:43 PM   There is a requirement that there is a letter from both parents saying the child can travel if the child is not accompanied by both parents. I had to get my ex wife to sign and have notorised a letter giving permission for my children to travel to Ukraine before they would provide visa to attend my wedding. Maybe they are trying to establish you are the father? A number of countries have these sorts of rules to prevent children being taken out of local court juristiction during a divorce. Dont see she has much leverage over you by divorcing in Ukraine apart from child custody but if she wants a divorce it will be messy under any jurisdiction. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/13/2009 1:38:14 PM   For the sake of your son, I hope you work things out and not divorce. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/13/2009 4:09:35 PM   Your just being paranoid. I think you have everything to loose if you dont send her your documents. Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/14/2009 7:09:34 PM   I don't think he's being paranoid. How surprised would you be if your wife took her son out of her homeland to geo to live in Nigeria or Lebanon and back into a marriage that is in trouble anyway. I think this will get messy Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2009 3:33:55 AM   Can you imagine what your wife will think, if she is in Ukraine trying to get an exit visa for her son and you hesitate to send her the needed docs. If the marriage is shaky, being paranoid at this time could finish it. The way I see it is that if you do not send her the docs, your wife and son will remain in Ukraine and you will have already lost. Im reminded of tribalogics post that he wrote to Colin: >>"It's a simple fact. Women are not generally attracted to that kind of insecurity, uncertainty, and drama... and especially not in a relationship! e.g. if you're that insecure about HER you are not confident enough to protect your mutual "nest"... << >>In the end, women need to feel safe. Safe from the world, and secure within yours. THey WILL look for alternatives if they don't feel so. Few women are "stepping stone" types... they just want security. If you're steady on, they'll feel good and stick by you. If you go off in a panic, do a total meltdown, they're left asking "who's going to take care of me??" They'll eventually start looking for "someone"... that's for sure..."<< I didnt think his post was necessarily right for Colin, but spoke to me. baron555 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2009 9:26:33 AM   unless the marriage is registered in ukraine? This makes sense to me. How else would you document that she is a parent of the child? nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2009 8:11:24 AM   Baron, the birth certificate. My daughter was born in Switzerland she has a Swiss birth certificate but is a US citizen. That was why I questioned the place of birth. Also now that she's in Ukraine, Ukrainian law will take precedence. She wouldn't need any documents to leave the country unless the child has a Ukrainian birth certificate. There's a good website just google Ukrainian Family law it has a forum where attorneys/solicitors answer questions to the kind of topics. northern Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/10/2011 5:38:04 AM   Lady in Odessa says international passport would cost her 250$ and making will take 2 weeks... is this any realistic? Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Cost of Passport
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