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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > "first timer" seeks advice, not smartarse cynicism Author Post nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/15/2007 5:56:13 AM   One of my favorites posts regarding truth: "Is it really any surprise that the 'Septics' are the most hated nation on earth and it can't be blamed on politicians or foreign policies. Many of you guys simply don't know how to behave with other nationals or when travelling, many believe, naively, that the whole world conforms, or is ready to conform, to the 'Septic' way, well welcome to the real world, get your head out of your ass, open your eyes and open your ears. As I said, I'm honest, like it or not, I'm honest!" Always bleating out how honest one is, makes me contemplate what truths are you hiding? Again the frauds will always be exposed. joej Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/15/2007 4:00:04 PM   Hi all -Following along the lines of this thread, Does anyone know of a place where I can find out how many fiance visas are issued by the USA each year? Also are there any other online forums or emails lists that cover the areas as this forum does? Thanks, Joe J. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/15/2007 6:43:02 PM   Max Thanks for the ideas. I dont want to go down the Fiance sponsor route at the moment, just want to get her a 3 to 4 week tourist visa. I think it is possible. If she likes the place and all goes really really well, then later ill have to bite the bullet and do the Fiance thing. Bet youre looking forward to seeing Lena again, She does seem to take up a lot of your time ) All the best Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/19/2007 5:20:30 AM   Thanx Adman good luck with your Thai trip and poss visit to NZ Lena had a real bad experience with E-tickets coming back - Moscow nearly not let her board Korean Air - and Kiev didn't check her bag through - but she home and the jet lag seems to have just caught up with her - she's crashed out early tonight. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/22/2007 11:31:07 PM   Hi Baz. Try Nikolaev and Sumy first. Mariupol and Melitopol. Stay out of Moscow, St. Petersburg (SPB), Odessa, Kiev and Kharkov. You dont want to get burned by either the scam agencies or the professional dater girl who meets 2-3 blokes a week for the last 12-36 months. Even the 18yr olds love joining these agencies for the free gifts older guys give them. That's why you are seeing those letters btw. You see some glamour mod type of 18 sending a guy of 55-65 an introduction letter? Just stick to what you know and you will be safe. I have heard always the best story by guys finding a down-to-earth girl in the smaller towns. The gold-diggers get that way by seeing and lusting after wealth they see in the bigger cities and hearing the stories of the big shots coming down and buying their way to the heart of the hot girl they want. I will be trying for the pretty small town girl next. I always dreamed a girl would love me for me and not my pocket book. I could never live with myself if I thought all a girl wanted was my money and never me. Environment they were brought up will program them for life -- so I strongly advise the smaller cities of UKR. Write them first, keep writing until you have a very strong candidate who brightens your day mate. Keep one girl in reserve just in case. It will help ease the heartbreak if your girl was insincere or 'god forbid - it does happen' never existed at all... beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/23/2007 11:17:53 AM   ' I always dreamed a girl would love me for me and not my pocket book.' Apal, girls are very smart in FSU. If they see you lavish them with things you will not be taken seriously. You will become an object in their eyes. Try to find an area in middle you are comfortable with. I put most of blame on men for turning girls into goldiggers, it is a learned behavior, they were not born that way. That is why more of them are in larger cities because that is where more men have been. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/23/2007 11:29:32 AM   Actually I'm not big on shopping excursions. I spend more money on me on trips than I do on the girl. :)' beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/23/2007 1:14:06 PM   Good for you but what if your ex-hottie in Odessa wanted to go on shopping spree...you would have melted like ice!! Of course, before it ended!! apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/23/2007 1:43:32 PM   No. It would have been seen as bad taste by me. I had already heard of professional daters long before I arrived. Yup, she wanted what a lot of these hottie FSU girls want - filthy rich... Mansions, exotic sports cars, etc. It's funny, I been scanning girl's profile's for years, and saw this one girl in Kiev who first put (I want big money). Now it is calmed down after 3 years to say "I want a good guy..etc." lol. But some new girls will still say how they want a "Sucessful guy". It's the obvious sign she is a gold-digger. duh. I actually saw one girl post new pics with huge diamond rings on her fingers -- yeah like she can afford that on her FSU Accounting salary! Now I will write and ask if they want a rich guy. Because I know rich is not someone making 100k/yr. It's someone rich even by US standards. It helps weed out the bad from the good. Most are pretty honest about it I found. btw, all these same girls are still looking for Mr. Moneybags... every last one of em... several years later... stubborn they are. :) I dunno, but I think it's worse then prostitution if you ask me. A girl will sell her body and give you a child if you have the money. lol! Ah love is in the air. My advice? If you are rich (by US standards) and don't want someone after your pocketbook? Just tell them you are not rich and see how fast they change on you. And don't take them on shopping sprees -- it will only encourage them to get more out of you. So no - I didn't melt like ice. Not that stupid or weak. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/23/2007 3:10:29 PM   'Just tell them you are not rich and see how fast they change on you.' I have never had a conversation with any girl about money. Just look at the way their life is and what they enjoy doing to get an idea. Although I have heard about girls springing for money once you get back home. I still have never been asked for money. I seriouly think a girl knows during time spent together the type of guy you are and if she is interested, money will not come up. Having a nice time is more important. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/23/2007 4:27:16 PM   It's not about them asking for money. It's about the reality of the very pretty girls signing up with marriage agencies to marry for wealth. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > "first timer" seeks advice, not smartarse cynicism
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