Ptichka,
Yes, each situation is different.
Since some females have tried very hard to convince me that I am NOT God's gift to women, I tend to think that if a woman would like to be with me before we have had much time to get to know each other, she would be 'easy'.(read: somewhat promiscuous). If I looked and felt like some of the 007 characters, the situation would be different.
Heard at party:
"Are you with anybody?"
"Yes, I am with anybody"
geriatrix and what is 'much time to get to know each other' what time do you mean??? what period do you want to spend with a girl, until you feel that you know her very good?:)
nasfan6
after 33 years of holy matrimony, my brother in law filed for divorce from my sister. she was the ultimate housewife . spotless home three homecooked meals every day and raised two children while he was working. he decided he had to go find himself at the age of 53 years old. i know what you mean.
OK
perhaps I am too negative.
Perhaps it is just that I am bitter because there is so much fornication going on and I am not getting any.
Perhaps I should go fishing, that seems to clear the mind (as suggested in another thread).
In regards to having sex with an FSU women. Some of you guys in this thread state that you have a problem with any women giving you sex after only knowing them for a few days. Guys! Get rid of this way of thinking right now! Get rid of the American sexually repressed way of thinking right now. These women do not think this way! God bless them. If an FSU girl has sex with you on the first date. Guess what it means? It means she likes you a lot. I spent four months in the Ukraine. I just returned a month ago. What I learned while there is that thier culture is much different than the obvious ways. Women there do not have the sexual hang ups that our American girls have. These girls are not taught at a very young age that Sex is a very bad thing and only bad girls do it before marriage. They dont play the game nor think that if she has sex with you on the first night that you or someone else will think she is a slut. If an FSU girl likes you and wants you then it will happen. If she doesn't it will not. It's that simple. It's black and white there. They dont play games with sex! I had plenty of these girls say no to me. I had many who said yes. If they feel the connection they go for it. She's not going to play I'm a good girl game and make you wait for three weeks to prove to you she is worthy. These girls dont give it up easy to anyone. Only to you if she truly likes you and wants you. This is the way it should be!
Turboz:
ignorant and ill-informed my friend,more than 80%of the fallout landed in Belarus!!....and beyond a 100km radius of Chornobyl,the levels were little more than anywhere else in the world........take a walk round Sellafield or Wylfa etc etc and you will pick more rads!!!!
I was watching a segment on HBO regarding this. It was called Chernobyl Heart and they Figured at least 99 percent of Belarus
has some level of contamination. Turboz I hope your lady isn't from Minsk.
deanis you're right, but don't forget that there are other situations, like when 2 people like each other and don't hurry to have sex, though use some forms of sexual games, and they don't hurry just because they don't feel yet ready for the sex itself...after some time they will start having sex...but I agree with you that it all depends on the couple and not on 1 person in the couple!! So each person and situation is different, but one thing is true, the majority of girls follows their wishes or not wishes, follows their hearts...is it good or bad??? I think that it's just the fact...it doesn't matter in this situation that a girl has sex every night (if she had sex with you on the first meeting), she may be very lonely, and if she likes you then she will make sex, if she won't like you then she will tell you this, and you won't be able to make her do sex, unless you use some physical strength which is not good to my mind!!!
Turboz as for Chernobyl...I'm from Ukraine, and what can I tell you...the doctors watched me very carefully as when this tragedy happened I was only 4 years old, and they were very carefull with all children because of Chernobyl tragedy, so I have to assure you that unless the girl you will meet lived in Chernobyl, then you won't have any problems with her.
What to say...this tragedy happened, but luckily for Ukraine it didn't cause us much problems, I mean with the health of people who lived not in Chernobyl. And by the way as I have already written, there was an espedition to Chernobyl with a reporter and the level of radiation is almost a normal one:)
jmo, one little point about miss wow in Chisinau who has had 1000 letters, I know her personally, I was writing to her a few months ago, and when I went to Chisinau to meet my fiance, I had a coffee with miss wow, she is not a scammer, she is a nice girl, maybe she has high standards, I had just already decided that she was too young for me
All I have to say is if the lady I have been communicating with the last 6 months and Ptichka are examples of the class of Ukrainian women, I wish I would have discovered them 20 years ago.
I have yet to meet anyone and talk with someone that is as sweet and warm as the little lady I have had the pleasure to meet. Also with Pitchka who has personally been a great help to me with her insight as Ukrainian lady. I wish her the best and I hope her boyfriend understands what he has in his life.
I asked my girl once if all Ukrainian women were like her. She told me for the most part all Ukrainian women are very warm and personable and very happy go lucky even when Life experiences has not been real kind. I can see why guys can be captivated by a Ukrainian lady. I feel very lucky, even if things do not work out, but with her optimism and mine it very will should. To have had
the pleasure of meeting her and talking to her and someone like Ptichka who puts up with a lot from us guys but is always gracious and willing to help. Anyone who has the opportunity to meet and get to know a lady from Ukraine. It is a very rewarding and interesting journey. My ex who was and is a very intelligent lady
is not on the same scale as these ladies. What I have found is they share a philosophical depth of life that I haven't seen in most women I have met in my life. Maybe it's the cultural difference. It is something I admire in her and enjoy talking about with her. There is more to life than the big house, the new cars and the 2.3 kids. It has really been an enjoyable pleasure for me. I can't wait for November 19th.
By the way Ptichka thanks for all that you contribute here.
tradman,
i am not saying she is a scammer. a high volume girl like her is good for the business. it keeps the cash register in high gear. why buy the cow when the milk is free. jmoluv
Hey Wtrav! Its been a long time since you've showed your face here. Hows the married life with your Kharkov girl going? I know the city well and may have walked right by you two if you were sitting at a cafe this summer. I was in Kharkov all summer except for 10 bad days in Kiev. By the way my email address has changed. Let me know if you want the new one. Ptichka you have very good wisdom and character. I agree with all you said. The thing that I appreciated most about the Ukrainian girls I met was how they never played games when it came to sex. They said no to me many times and I respected them. But when the said yes. Wow! Did they mean yes! Sometimes the taxi driver would have got an eyeful had he decided to check his rear view mirror! :)What a great warm up ride! :)Ukrainian women are so full of passion.
I am Hazim from Iraq.I met my friend in Syria .She is just dancer.I think she is my dream girl so I want to visit here in Ukraine when I find a chance to do that.
Hazim
I've got a really good idea!!! Lets send one of us over their to start our own agency and do all of the interviews and screening. We will just pay the person we send all of the fee's to accomplish what we are looking for and cut out the scams :) Oh yeah, I'll volunteer for the position!!