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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > "Why do so many men look to the Ukraine for women " Author Post jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/27/2004 6:26:50 AM   Aside from the fact that Ukrainian women have got great genes that make them beautiful (as do Moldovans) the fact that life has not been easy for them has made them much more "real" than American or western European women. They have developed interpersonal skills because they have always had to get along with family and neighbors. They have not had the option that many Americans have of plopping themselves in front of a television from infancy on and watching the world from a passive viewpoint. They have always been accountable for there actions in society and don't have endless excuses for anti-social behavior etc. They are not spoiled like their western counterparts are. Og course author and annoyance Mr. Doug Self-Centered would point out that they are not angels and will take advantage of you if you let them and are unwary. I'm sure that they will and some are more likeley than others. But if you connect with a Ukrainian woman with the intention and desire to be your one-and-only, I think that you will find that they have much greater caacity to do just that than any (or at least most any) western woman. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/27/2004 1:48:53 PM   Jet: my (Ukranian)wife has just become your best friend,she has playfully poked me in the ribs and said to me "now that is a sensible man". I am sure our house will be open to you the next time you visit these shores!!!......:)) nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/27/2004 8:35:11 PM   I told my little lady she could take advantage of me anytime she wished as long as she appreciated it. Something I have had to learn to get used to from her is respect and appreciation, something that is missing here in the states. Even simple little gestures of kindness to her gets a response of gratitude I have never experienced from a woman. It is pretty humbling at times to think something here that is taken for granted daily, is a very big thing to a little lady that has not had attention and tenderness and kindness shown to her from the men in her country. Their loss our gain. Later Mike wmferg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/27/2004 9:04:14 PM   I would have too agree with you Mike. While in Kyiv I bought my lady a single rose while we were walking down the street. From her smile and sparkle in her eyes you would have thought I had bought her a diamond. All evening long she would smell the rose and smile. Later I asked our interpeter about her reaction and she said "of course she is happy, a man she cares about did a nice thing she was not expecting. Any woman would be happy". I wanted to say that obviously she had never dealings with an American woman. Bill jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2004 4:21:43 PM   Glad - thanks for the kind invitation. I very much want to visit again and meet both you and trad - and of course, your spouses! Unfortuantely this trip that I will be taking in three weeks has only a stop-over Amsterdam (and only three hours at that). But I like Britain very much (the language was certainly easier to follow) and I hope to visit soon. And if you happen to find yourself in Wisconsin - as unlikley as that might be - I extend a similar invitiation. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2004 4:49:12 PM   Ya know glad: Having read your post - I'm not quite so sure that I have any sensibility at all. The woman I am bringing over is beautiful, and fun, and sexy and interesting - and I have to admit I have become attached to her. But she is also very materialsitic, demanding and self-centered. And she fully admits and makes no apologies for asy of these attributes. Sometimes I wonder if I am walking straight into an oncoming train - which seems even more curious as I seem to be doing with my eyes wide open. Am I sensible or have I taken comlete leave of my senses? The two weeks at the end of January will tell us a lot. As bizarre as it seems, the three weeks I spent with her in April and May were actually (in some aspects) the worst part of our one-year-plus courtship. There were extenuating circumstances that I won't mention here. But still - when I last left her I was convinced that we would never see each other again. I certainly never intended to return to see her in Moldova. Yet here I am scheduled to marry her. We have two weeks to spend in Moldova - then probably 90 days to spend in the US. many questions to be asked. We will have to see what the outcome will be. I will not hesitiate to pull the plug if it isn't right though. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2004 3:12:13 PM   Jet: sensibility in abundance my friend........my wife says so and I am not about to argue with her. Sometimes it can seem like you are bting off more than you can chew with any lady from the FSU.It came as a shock to me too to find that my wife was demanding,that can sometimes be part of the charm.After all the most common demanding is for YOUR attention,surely not a bad thing......:)). Self-centred and materialistic??....hmmmm that is an interesting one,not come across that one yet,but will let you know if I do. Sometimes life can take funny turns,something you thought had petered out suddenly appears to take over your life.I guess you have thought long and hard about every aspect here,and still have alot to decide,but this is the real part that is approaching now,crunch time if you like!.......please try to not to over-analyse it though,love is NEVER logical,and often goes so much against the grain people have serious doubts about your sanity. Live the dream jet.....enjoy the time together.....and above all make the decision you feel happy with. best of luck,fingers crossed for you both! ps Wisconsin added to "places to go".....:)))))))))) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 12:34:27 AM   Thanks glad - I appreciate the comments. I should tell you that Wisconsin is known for - cheese, beer (American style - as in Milwaukee), bratwurst, the Green Bay Packers, snow, cold weather, deer hunting (four-legged variety - not a lot of good two-legged ones to speak of), great Great Lakes fishing, more snow and more cold weather. If you ever get a hankering for any of those thing - you know where to visit to find them! GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 2:02:53 AM   I have great memories of 'Mad' city....damn those coeds are hot to trot!! nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 7:53:11 AM   Jet I have been behind the Cheddar Curtain a few times, I used to go watch the Bears preseason training camp in Platteville. Also Wisconsin is the home of Matt Kennseth last years Nascar champ and Dick Trickle. I'm sure that name is going to get a few laughs. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 2:37:29 PM   Thank you jet, that short description has just moved things up a great deal,and has changed things into a distinct possibility now that I've mentioned it to Inna.Vacation time next year has not been arranged yet,but some serious research into US bound flights is now taking place.......:))) sheppardalbert Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2005 2:53:50 PM   I believe that I have found a wonderful Ukrainian woman. Her name is Inna Savina. I visited her in July of 2005. I was treated royally by her and her mother and father. I have been very satisfied with the results I get from the agency where I met her ( see the site through http://www.computerbrides.com )I have never been treated so well in my life and I have been all over the world. I sent her nothing before I got to know her. She never asked for a single dime. She never played on my sympathy with sad stories of need to try to get me to send money. Now, that I have been there and feel that I know her (you never know anyone completely) I am helping her a little every month while we wait for the visa paperwork to be approved. Of course, doubts sometimes creep in, but that will all pass once she is on the plane and coming to me. I believe that we are both being realist about things and see them the way they are. I have begun to put our story and some of my poetry to her on my sites www.innasavina.com and www.inna-savina.com. Good luck to you in your search. Think positive, be realistic, and use your head. Your heart can come in later. Albert Sheppard California, USA chrisc4 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2005 4:05:50 PM   out of intrest, is Tim H the guy who marrided a girl rom Sevastopol for a very short period o time ? Oliunea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/2/2007 10:47:43 AM   Dear Men, I wouldn't be as categoric about the Eastern European ladies. I guess, many of them are scammers and I genuinely abhor such women: they are striving for a better and easier life. As to the beauty. I assure you, there are real beauties in the Eastern Europe and many of them are not scammers but the decent, well-educated, family-oriented women, soft and feminine. The other things is that any man should not become blind because of the lady's beauty, for, in spite of this wonderful bonus, they may simply me incompatible with certain men as regards the character, dynamics, views on life and bringing up the children. I can't say the mentality may be a problem here - I saw no difference.... Well, I had a fiance, we got engaged and ...disengaged in 5 months - I had to face his ex-wife often in our life - I couldn't cope with that + he lied to me while saying he wanted to have 2 kids - he turned out to absolutely hate them. Well, that's life. At that I new he wasn't rich and would never be - just loved him and wanted to create our family and share our lives/interests with him. It didn't work out for it was me who was scammed severely - after I got my Fiancee Visa and came to my beloved man he wouldn't even make love to me (and they say I'm quite pretty) not speaking about our plans for future + he didn't have kids. Why did he proposed in the first place? Afterwards he said he had a stressful period and ran out of money. I left him freely, because I wasn't the one to get a British Passport - I ONLY wanted to have him as my life-partner. After I came back home, I didn't even have warm-clothes (and in my country, Moldova, it was -18C) for I gave out my clothes and footwear to some friends of mine. I quit my job before going to my fiance, so i didn't have it once back. However, I was lucky and got job immediately. I've never been looking for the life at some man's expense or scamming - it wouldn't even pop up in my head!!! Anyway, he wrote and called me lots of times after I came back home trying to get me back and asking me for another chance ... unsuccessfully. So that, I'd like you to know that there is the balance, Law of Nature, whatever you call it, that there are scammers on the other side of the Europe too... So, dear man, be simply more sober and try to find out what the woman is like inside - if she's a user or a genuine partner-to-be! Due experience I wouldn't go for a foreign guy in spite of the fact there is probably 5:1 ratio of women to men. But,believe me, there are many wonderful and truly genius ladies in the post Soviet countries ! Luck and happiness to all of you! Olga ;o) ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/2/2007 4:53:40 PM   Interesting post Olga. I guess this quite a common view of many of the girls. Sorry to hear it did not work out. Can I ask did you like the UK/West, how did it compare to Moldova and was missing your friends, family, lifestyle an issue in your relationship? I'm sure you would say you won't care were you live as long as your were with the man you love but thats easier said than done as relocating can be hard epecially at first. What were your impressions of life in the UK and its people? beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/2/2007 10:09:32 PM   Olga, Sorry to hear such a story with a sad ending but every sad ending can become bright new beginning. Your so called fiance is not a scammer as much as a sad pityful so called man with NO life. Maybe it was good it ended sooner than later become eventually all zebras show their stripes. I do understand that a relationship can be undermined by either person, you just hope both sides were honest from the beginning, unfortunately you were the one lied to. Hope you able able to put this behind you and start your life over again. MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/3/2007 1:13:54 AM   Next time this girls will me more caferul about man's job and money on his account. She did closed her future by opening first fiancee visa and not being married. Now for any EU Embassy she is a kind of scammer. I mean, that's a supitidy to trust any stupid bloody western me. And the best whatever girls may do - SCAM THEM. Why? - TO PROTECT HERSELF. By all means the ONE will come, like her and grab her into HIS life. Balvennie Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/3/2007 6:51:13 AM   After you remove all the scammers, professional daters (both men and women), and general timewasters, the people remaining are just normal people, looking for the one person they hope to spend the rest of their lives with. He doesn't have to be rich and she doesn't have to be a 21yo model. We are all human, for better or worse, and here as in any arena we will meet people we don't get on with for any number of reasons... cultural differences, personality conflicts, different goals, cat person/dog person, anything. Being genuine doesn't guarantee success - we still have to drop a coin in the slot and take our chance. If that means we spend thousands of dollars and end up with nothing to show for it, then so be it. We shouldn't accuse the woman of being a scammer. And the woman shouldn't accuse the man of lying, even if she feels hurt and bitter. It's life. I had an unsuccessful experience with an Eastern European girl. We lived together for a while (in spite of the early warning signs and advice from my friends, which I stupidly ignored), and at first I thought she was the One for me - I wouldn't have gone to so much trouble and expense on pursuing a relationship with her otherwise. But as we got to know each other better, it became clear we weren't right for each other. I could list all the things that were wrong with her, but I'm not like that. It came to the point where her fiancée visa was soon to expire, so we either had to get married or call an end to it. We had too many problems and conflicts to throw so much caution to the wind, so she had to leave and go back to her country. There were times afterwards that I regretted this, but eventually I realised it was absolutely for the best, for both of us. Olga, keep an open mind and a pure heart. Every story has 2 sides. Your ex-fiancé clearly wasn't the right man for you (and vice-versa), but I'm sure both you and he will find appropriate partners in time. You're clearly still holding this unfortunate experience close to you. The sooner you let it go, the sooner your heart will be free to find someone else. I let go of my unfortunate experience, and I found someone absolutely wonderful! There's no such thing as perfect people, only perfect intentions. boredffukka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/3/2007 7:43:25 AM   MONADA MAN what does that mean in English language? adewqo Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/20/2012 7:37:32 PM   becasue of beauty of ukraine girls...I am from Turkey and I hope to meet with some girls from ukraine.. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > "Why do so many men look to the Ukraine for women "
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