I don't know why guys just don't follow the simple rule. Don't send money to someone you have never met. It still amazes me to this day. I would rather dump my money in the Forex and at least have a return on it.
OM you got fleeced by one of the typical scams. Almost every guy has gotten emails from some girls travel agency. I mean how difficult is it to set up a front since you can't really walk next door to check it out.
I mean I could call my lady everyday on the phone from the states and it was costing me about 5 bucks a day to do it. 500 for chatting? Wow amazing!!!
Yes guys what is worse that today I received an e-m the ladies would not show and have one who wants me to take her to Egypt for vacations, and a friend of mine told me he sent her the money she never bought the travel pack and he showed in Hurghada and she never came and kept the 1500. dollars, so figure.
I am not going to Ukraine with any hopes this is a realy bad situation. The ladies one is 28 and the other 31. I thought at that age they were serious but I think I am very wrong.
Om...I don't know why you have these problems, maybe you would have to re-evaluate what you are doing. I met with a girl from anastasia and almost another. My friend met with 3 of 4 girls he planned to meet. He met with his girls multiple times. Isn't this your ladies from Kherson and Nikolaev? Supposed to meet you in Odessa??? If so, it never seemed feasible to me. You HAVE to visit them in their own cities, going anywhere else can become a nightmare. As I have been saying for quite sometime, for serious girls age does not matter as much as the the girl herself, if a girl is sincere, there is no way to put an age on her.
Your friend is worse than you are OM, I wonder if your friend ever bothered to meet the girl first?????
28 and 31...maybe they are just old pro's at getting guys to do what they want!!!!
Try a reputable site next time
OM,
i think not the site is with dubious reputation, and not the site is to blame, the girl is the one that counts and is the reason. to be honest, i can hardly understand the people who can transfer money to others they dont know. one of my frineds from england who i got to know on one of alike sites 4 yrs ago, also transfered money for plane tickets ( or bought tickets by himself)(the girl said it s too exhausting to go by train for 10 hours:))) and she never came to moscow , at least to meet him. he was angry that she had cheated him, i just smiled and advised to think who was stupid in that situation:)))
Hi Beemer,
You gave me a few words of wisdom before about trying to ensure that I visited the girl in the home city. Ok, well this was later agreed and she had been told by me that I would visit Nikolaev for a few days. After booking the dam hotel she then goes and tells me she can only meet me for 1 meal one evening and thats it. Strikes me she cant really be serious if thats the best she can do despite me spending a fortune and lots of my time to get there.
Seriously think I should change plans and cancel the hotel, you got any views on this? Not sure I really be motivated to meet someone who would put such a small amount of effort in themselves!
OM
I do not really care what you do but you are a man of means, you are going into a country that you do not know the language and you cannot read the signs. I understand your flight leaves in 2 days. Now your lady has canceled which was not surprising when you said she was staying in your apartment without ever meeting you before.
Get yourself a native speaking guide. At least talk to the lady I gave you contact info for and get her phone number so you can call for help if you need it.
When you get into the airport you can buy a cheap telephone for under $100 or could a year ago. Buy a sim card and some minutes. Have the guy in the phone store put it in and change the display language to English. Call this number +380506883195 if you need help. Irina is an English professor at Kharkov University and can give advice on the phone or send a guide to you. If it was me I would contact her before going.
If you were on a shoe string budget I could have sympathy for you but with the income you say you make it would seem silly to me to go in there blind and hope you can figure it out with a several thousand dollar investment when you could spend less than $100 per day and have professional help with you.
well my experience with Anastasia is really bad, i met a girl over the net and exchanged a lot of letters with her and actually went to Odessa last year, I met with a translator at the airport (and the girl was supposed to be with her - and wasnt! which i can understand). But her first response was you do not look like any of your pictures.. and then after some small talk she took me to my hotel then demanded some us dollars for the service she provided also she gave me a no. for a driver! she said she would fix up a date and asked if i wanted to see other women etc.. after many phone calls she said she'd get back to me an never did! never heard from her again.. well i would of if i had phoned her independantly but got fed up after 4days! so think this website is a total scam! I believe they just want u to go on one of their planned trips so they can get ur money an they probably buy these women (probably give these woman small amountts of money to do this)..
My advice for anyone looking to meet an girl in these countries is if you are really serious, take a trip independantly stay for a few weeks maybe rent an apartment which is really cheap an hang out in some bars etc.. I have a lot of foreign friends an they tell me especially places like prague (czech republic) the women really love the english accent an there are so many pretty women!! My main advice is do not pay for these credits on that site!.. use ur money better by buying a ticket and stay in the country instead! UNLESS ANYONE CAN PROVE ME WRONG? BUT IF YOU CAN I WILL WANT CONCLUSIVE PROOF AN EVIDENCE!
Lex .After some dissapointments with ukraine women ,I have been considering as you mention czech republic.
Been looking at couple of agencies that specialise with czech slovak ladies, but rather expensive options,meetings hotels there,but i think it works out a lot cheaper in comparison for me here in u.k than travelling to see some ungrateful women in ukraine.
I see a lot of people griping about Anastasia. It can strike you as a scam, and there might legitimately be scams there, but I did the ol' 'write her at another, legit agency' trick with a couple of very attractive girls and they both replied right in line with what was at Anastasia. Despite both seeming to be 'canned', they were just as canned away from Anastasia.
My thoughts - these girls just have awful personalities. (Why do you think they use internet dating sites??)
Haven't travelled to see any yet.
It could be YOU. You might be running off in a hormonally fueled head-on charge that frightens the birds out of the field, so to speak. You can't just lunge at women and assume they are lunging toward you like a mirror image. You could be scary if you don't use a lot of patience and tact. They probably think we are a grab bag of murderers, sex maniacs, and wife beaters... only likely since the gripers tend to classify the women as scammers, abusers, fakes, and users. 'I don't really trust these women, I don't trust these sites, i don;t trust anyone that disappoints me!!' is an attitude that tells me a lot about the people writing the notes. That same attitude might be coming across in your correspondence to the girls, who then duck in the airport to see who you are, and react with instant skepticism when they see your wild eyed, bald, aging heads peeking about like starved tigers when you get out of the gates. So, examine your actions and think about it a little, then try again.
Anastasia - I hate you!!!!!
Because of your underhand scamming and the scamming little bitches using your site, I have now wasted huge swathes of my time and bank account.
Advice to anyone else out there - steer clear of those con merchants. If you want to visit Ukraine, you should avoid their ladies.
I have so far met or been stood up by about 12 from their site, and I do not think that there was a genuine, honest bone in any of them. It is all a big game to get more money out of western suckers (including me)!
I have not had problems with anastasia yet. I've only been on for a couple months. It is just a vehicle for me. Try to write for only couple months before a meeting since it is a site primed for being milked. I met 1 of 2 this past time and my friend 3 of 4.
As all sites, just have to be cafeful and try to get a good read.
Beemer, again thanks for your comments.
As you will see in my other reply to you on another thread, I think some of the ones I have picked I have just been dam unlucky on. I have met my first sincere Anastasia lady since my perhaps over the top rant above, so perhaps I need to try and learn something from this. Though to be honest, I would certainly like to see her again, but I shall assess what has happened on my return home and see if I could have changed things in any way. Based on that I will decide if indeed, I am "accepting defeat" or just going to try and learn from what has happened on my trips so far.
Well guys... I signed up on Anastasia about 10 days ago just to see what happens. I have now received 100 incoming letters (yes, believe me this is no B.S.) incoming letters. I have not replied to ANY. (2) faces I recognized from another site with whom I wrote both ladies and we mutually agreed to not write anymore! So that 2% I know were written by a translator. There is no way in hell that all of these "model" quality women wrote me in little over a week, it HAD to be the agency.
Penny...what you are getting are form letters, maybe written by girls or by agencies, who knows. I think everybody here or anywhere have pre written letters to send girls at beginning of correspondence....even a second letter and sometimes even a third letter. Why spend so much time writing a letter to a girl and you get answer back not interested. Just a feeling out period. I do in fact know that a couple letters I got from girls on this site that don't write to me anymore I got from anastasia, so some are just sent out to whomever. I complained to anastasia about form letters since they advertise that their letters are not. The girls are definately 100% beautiful, I need my willpower to not open them...sometimes curiosity gets the better of me!!! Penny...some are just 11's!!!
Penny,
Write back to some, ask two questions of each, but two different questions to each, you'll either get canned (not answering the questions) letters in return or you'll be keeping a typist very busy :)
Hey Beems,
I dunno. It just seems "out of order", here when I have been on several known U.S. dating sites in the past sending out hundreds of "flirts", "IOI's", etc. I've gotten few responses unsolicited or solicited. So here I do the same thing on this site and I get 100. Something is amiss. I mean I have average looks and not standing next to a Ferrari in the photo so I just find it hard to believe that 100 women actually looked at my photo, clicked and sent me a letter. For an agency to send the letter (without the ladies permission) seems inappropriate don't you think? One lady in particular we both liked each other and wrote back and forth several times, then I mentioned the "no kids" thing and we parted writing- even she was one of those unsolicited letters! You bet there are 11's on there. PM me to discuss more if you like.
Penny...agencies and ladies usually work together. If girl is sincere, she would want to expose herself to as
many men as possible, don't you agree? Her agency is working for her to get as many letters out. You hope girl knows this and from responces, hopefully, answers those letters by herself. This is what makes this search so difficult, not knowing for sure. I don't mind thou, if this was a simple process, competition would be high and there would be thousands of guys stepping on each other.
BP if you read the Anastsaia fine print, it tells you that it is company policy for the agency to send out introduction letters without the knowlege of the girl. It is quite likely that non of the ladies know that their intro letter has been sent to you.