Suddenly you receive a letter unsolicited from a beautiful woman half your age. Ohhh Archie she coos. This woman would not look twice at you in the States or even Weston-Super-Mare. A Tim Allen uhhh passes your lips and you start to salivate. You reply. Then there is another letter even sweeter than the first. You send back a more detailed reply and cannot believe your luck. Then she declares undying love. Starting with a little kiss and an affectionate goodbye and then sometimes, if you are lucky, a detailed blow by blow account of what she is going to do to your middle aged, fantasy ridden body.
No, no she cannot be parted from you any longer. She will come to you.
Kathy you cry and faintly you hear Heathcliffe. Your heart beats like a pounding hammer. Still my beating heart you cry. Be still before I burst all me buttons.
She needs help though, will you help her? She wants you so bad. Will you not help her molest your wrinkled little body? Massage your hairy legs and gently stroke your bald spot.
If only you would send her some money for the plane ticket and a visa. Then she could come to her darling, her pookey, her schmuck. Or was it schmekel I can never remember. Same difference, now where was I. Oh yes. If only tigger will send $2000 she will come to you like the wind.
Well the deal is that if you send her the money there will be wind all right. That would be the wind from her heels as she legs it to the bank the day after she receives the money delivered by Mr Western and Mr Union. The moral of this story is that if you are stupid enough to fall for that old standby you deserve to get burned.
DON'T SEND MONEY, I believe it has been mentioned before. I am not sure about that though.
Here endeth this particular lesson. And there is more where that came from folks.
:) My second Scammer was comming to me on a work Visa she had the money for Visa And Plane ticket, But needed 1500.00 dollars or they would not let her Leave Russia:)
but she would pay me back when she got here (LOL)
OKM
Oh yes Grasshopper there are many variations on this theme and they will all be explained in time young one, in time.
But first you must master the art of praying.
Praying with yourself.
Then you will go to English town called Wrotham, pronounced root 'em.
There you will learn not to pray with yourself.
But Grasshopper I hear you ask what if I cannot stop, what if I fail to cease.
Then you will get eyes like mine Grasshoper. (and a bald head)
Thunder I think Rebecca Stamos is hot personally. I wish you could post the pictures here, God I laughed my ass off so hard! I can understand where Annika might think some westerners might be dumbasses, but the scammers top even that!
Ok I have coffee sitting her and so I shall begin. Ahem, ahem.
This particular sketch is EXACTLY why I dumped Marina in a heartbeat and I am sure the other members of this forum when they read my story instantly thought the same thing. They were just too kind to mention it.
You find a beautiful lady or she contacts you. Frankly it doesn't matter how the contact comes it could even be a social. You start a realationship. Time passes. Everything seems as real as it could be. You go and see her. She screws you into a coma. You become either very fond of her or even love her. After as long as 6 months after you have started, something happens. She loses her job, the car breaks down, she needs ongoing medicines for herself/her daughter/grandma. She asks you to help, by which time you have probably already volunteered your support/help and started looking at rings.
MOI!!
So you start sending a fixed sum each month. Maybe you go back every 3 or 4 months and have a good time again.
Then somewhere down the road you find out that she has someone else. LIKE I DID!!
It is the classic mistress sketch. There are many problems with this set up though. It is virtually undetectable. Also some guys are quite happy with the arrangement. She might have 5 or 6 guys on the go each sending $100 a month. Soon as one (like me) drops out she soon finds another. In my own case I think one of the 'tells' was the attitude of the little girl. She had probably seen many men come through that bedroom and mama sneaking off in the middle of the night for a little 'company'.
Then again I could be completely wrong. Anyway that was the thought that went trough my mind like lightning.
This scenario has about 2 million shades of grey. Everything from the situation being completely open and agreed to by both parties to the woman really being deeply in love with you. She only has another lover because of financial needs. She would never deliberately hurt you and has long term plans for the 2 of you.
BTW the fact that she is a doctor or lawyer is not an indiactor that she is not going to do this. In FSU those jobs are not anywhere as well paid s in the west and they might still be well and truly up for this.
Another variation is that she actually has a Russian boyfriend/husband in the background and he is the one actually calling the shots.
The real problem that faces us with this is the decision to send money.
Toad's attitude is to never send money. In 90% of cases that is very good advice. The other 10% is again very grey. If you love someone and can afford $100 a month your natural inclination is to help. It is mine. They really do have problems and it is not, as Jet has so rightly pointed out, evil to help her imprive her living conditions. It is small pocket change compared to what an American woman will wring out of you.
Practical Example:-
Yesterday I had a bunch of fun. I took a pretty Malaysian girl called Hoy Yen out to really see South Florida. It cost me a tank of gas and one day of my life. I took her to The South Florida Historical Museum in downtown Miami to begin with. I parked the car just outside of downtown deliberately so we could catch the people mover into the city center. She got to see an arial view of the downtown area for free. There was no charge. Then for some reason the museum was also free. I took her to a Cuban restaurant for a sandwich. Then we went to Calle Ocho and looked at the Pequena Havana area for a bit. I showed her the monument to the martyrs of the Bay of Pigs disaster with its eternal flame. Then we went to the Everglades and I sprung $34 for an airboat trip out into the wetlands. Then down to Homestead to my favorite Mexican restaurant. Dinner was $23 and complete with a mariachi band (man were they good). Then finally out to a Beautiful restaurant overlooking Biscayne Bay. We sat on a outside terrace by a firepit with the Miami skyline lit up like a Christmas tree. A very romantic beautiful spot. Another $15.
Total about a $100 including the gas.
Therefore being too stingy with a woman from FSU is a little self defeating. Sometimes it is necessary to send money. Completely depends on the circumstances.
BTW I am not actually saying that Marina was doing something like this. It was my orginal reaction but now I really don't know.
Does anybody want to add anything to this sketch??
Pleeeezzzz Iz', I need to talk to her, I beg you, I must experience that. Come on, be a sport, I luuurve hospitals, I'm crazy about such intensive care - I'll put you in my will OK? ;-)
Ok. This might seem a little rough but again it is instructive for anybody new. As the world and its wife knows I am looking again. My photos, profile and writing abilty seem up to be up to the job and I have no trouble attracting women. The problem is how the hell do you sort them out!! That is why I started the thread "The 400". Tons of good information came out of that thread thanks to Toad, Annika, Ditto and Nasfan.
As has already been mentioned in another thread if you find a woman with a child she HAS to be able to get the written permission of the biological father for that nipper to leave the country permanently. If she does not know where he is, is on such bad terms with him that she won't talk to him, he holds the kid for ransom or just is bloody minded you are screwed.
You might as well just give that one up and move on. Because it is more trouble than it is worth.
Next...
Beware flowery emails they often are the precursor to 'the sting'. As Rod Sterling would say I offer this for you viewing pleasure.
Hello, my dear Steve!
It is cloudy today. It has been raining since morning. Something deep in my heart makes me feel uneasy. My daughter feels my state and is trying to cheer me up. She embraces me and says: “Mommy, everything will be OK, you will see!” Her childish mind she can’t understand the reason why I am sad. And all my thoughts are near you. What a pity it is that you are so far! I would like to talk with you, to tell you how lonely I am. I am thinking about you all day long: at night listening to quiet melodies, in the morning during breakfast sitting with coffee that is getting cold, in a crowded street. You are with me everywhere. You fill my thoughts in the middle of a working day and at dawn during the time of my short rest. How are you there?
I would like so much to live the life that I have never had. I want to have simple human happiness. How wonderful it could be to have the man whom my daughter and I are trusting and whose strong shoulder could be felt any time of day and night.
God created a man and a woman to live one family, to bring children up, to be together in joys and sorrows. I dream to have such a family. Maybe it will be you who will become my one and only, the man whom my daughter and I have been waiting for so long. Now I can only dream about it. But nobody can say for sure at least at this moment.
It is raining outside. The big drops are knocking on the window glass and keep us at home. My daughter is playing computer games on Sony Play station and I am going to cook our evening meal and imagine you at my side. These thoughts will bring warmth, comfort and joy. I love my daughter and we feel fine together. But she needs Father to help her to mature. I need the beloved and caring Husband. Both of us are dreaming about the family, in which there will be the atmosphere of understanding, love and trust. Hope it will soon come true.
My dear Steve, I don’t want to condemn men of my country. But many of them simply don’t want to work. They agree to live modestly enough in order not to trouble themselves with any business.
Dear Steve, my kid’s father doesn’t take part in upbringing. So we’ll not have any problems from this side.
With trust and tenderness,
A.
Ok now to discuss my previous post.
I DON'T KNOW THIS WOMAN.
We have exchange about 3 eamils - at best. One of which was a canned one from me and another ractically a one liner. Now I am the love of her life. WTF...
However the most mportantthing here is the refusal to tell me where the father is. I have asked several times. She won't say.
"Dear Steve, my kid’s father doesn’t take part in upbringing. So we’ll not have any problems from this side."
I have told her at least twice that this answer is not good enough. As you can see she has not answered. She is stubbornly under the illusion that the fact that she has custody of the child and feeds it everyday will be enough. She then covers it up with a bunch of sweet stuff to win my heart - in lightning quick time I might add.
I am not going to even reply. Forstly the letter reaks of scam going down and 2 the important question has not been answered. New comers look and learn.
Last word on this lady. She is an absolute knockout. They always are. I have a woman who I thought I had kicked to the curb who just surprised the shit out of me. Firstly she is 40 years old. Ever so slightly dumpier than most of the women. Attractive but definitely a mommy and wife woman. She wrote to me about baking cakes for her sons. Mentioned the adopted child idea thinking that was that. Nope it was a slight misunderstanding from a previous email. Very slight. She loves the idea of having a new family with a poor Russian adopted child. No criticism or what ifs.
I think I can do better but my point is that the ones with the gorgeous photos are definitely not necessarily the best choices. There is a reason they are showing those long legs and big knockers. That picture is a photo studio pic. Great makeup, borrowed clothes and good lighting can achieve wonders.