Any comments from anyone on this?
Re Immigration Visas costs!
Give me(and us) proof to stay way from there!!!
John Howard wants foreigners to pledge loyalty to country!(Australia) totally!
What hope do Ukr Russians have then!!!!
Im more concerned about getting a visa into the Ukraine. It gets a bit tedious after awhile. Last time I got a 1yr multiple entry cultural exchange visa. Anyone know how to get a permant residency visa in Ukrine?
yes us kiwis don't like to be grouped with them. but he has a point, it would be hard for aussies with the new requirements. their girls are going to have to pass some sort of test on australia. although if the FSU girl replaces "yes" with "no worries" for answers it will surely help and well as addressing the interviewer by his Australian name by taking the first 2 letters of his name and adding a "zza" to the end
gemini yeah the invitation/visas are a pain. Dunno how to get a year one unless you have business of there. (but lucky for me i can get an EU passport, which i knew that 2 years ago).
BEN YOUR A KIWI ?? god why would a kiwi go to russia / ukraine for ? i could not imagine the girls being interested in a kiwi - my god ! kiwi be counting his change all day moaning if he spent 500 rubles !!
What could a kiwi offer an FSU GIRL ??? HMM leg of lamb with love bites all over it ?
mybe a pair of jandels ?? lol -
Kiwi can offer a ruskie about the same as they already have -poverty !
Leave it to the aussies mate and some usa folk and a few decent poms at least they can take em out for a night and pay the bill --but MRS CLARKS BRIGADE ohh i dont know about that --- stay home with the sheep mate .
Vanechka.....do I detect a tinge of jealousy?
Mike has been there...done it...worn the shirt,and quite obviously knows what he is doing.seems to me the only hard luck stories here usually have your name in front of them!!
Why would I be jealous. I know Russian woman backwards. I know their phsyche . I know how they think of western men ..... I travel yearly to ukraine from Australia and I have never and will never marry a russian woman .I am more experient than all of you put together on this topic.. Russian woman obviously wont stay in another country for long and its even more dangerous living in theirs... wait till the money runs out and I bet she will revert back to her multiple Russian bfs.. Yes you can all abuse me again ... You all live in hope. Sure if you are all 70 year old men living up your final years blow your money .. But to any young guy stay away ..
Wake up ... Stop listening to people like martin
Australian blokes stop dreaming about Russian/FSU brides..the requirements for a fiance visa ( prospective spouse sub-class 300 visa ) AND this is the only visa you can get for a foreign girl (NO VISITORS/ TOURIST VISAS will ever be issued to a single FSU / Russian girl ) are too tight.
85% OF FIANCE VISAS FOR AUSTRALIAN MALE applicants for a Russian/Ukrainian or other FSU country bride will get rejected. Often reason is "insufficient proof a relationship exists to substantiate that a marriage will occur after the visa is issued" or very small irregularities in her paperwork, failed police clearance, failed health check etc.
All applications for fiance visas for all Russia/FSU female applicants go through are only embassy in the region in Moscow and its understaffed, very judgemental and very picky at who it lets through..its shocking!
The cost of the Fiance Visa application is about $1300 AUD plus $300 AUD or more for medical checks for her plus cost of police clearance certificate from her country ( takes months to get it as they are slow an in no hurry and if you want it quick be prepared to pay a lot in bribes to officials to move things along ) plus other paperwork so it will cost something like $2000 AUD to apply for the visa and if rejected you get none of your money back!
To lodge an appeal over a rejection costs another $2500 aud plus cost of an migration lawyer or attorney to represent you and her at Migration Appeals Tribunal in Australia and cases take 6 months or longer to be heard.
This on top of the 7 to 12 months it takes Moscow to process a fiance visa application.
Australian government and Department of Immigration are shits to deal with..its all shit!
Cost of a personal visit to her by a man from Australia will cost $10,000 aud or more, so all up you can do the personal trip, pay for a fiance visa application, pay for an appeal (50% of appeals will fail ), pay for a lawyer and still not get her to Australia and be out of pocket $20,000 aud..all for nothing!
AUSTRALIAN MEN FORGET ABOUT RUSSIAN BRIDES..DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME AND THERE TIME AS WELL.
Our migration system is fooked!
Vanechka your so called experience is an idle boast. Your assumption about peoples motives for visiting these countries and the their criteria for being happy are flawed. It takes a lot longer for money to run out in FSU. If someone likes the lifestyle there is no reason they cant be successful in developing a sustainable lifestyle there. There are no shortages of flash cars, flash apartments and money in Ukraine or Russia. Just need to tap into it. I havent been back to Australia fo 2 years and couldnt care if didnt go back for another 10. Why would a Russian woman feel any different if they are happy in the country they go to?
Vanechka.....any abuse that is flung your way is entirely of your own making.Be cautious yes,but negativity to the point of paranoia that you display is the main reason so many react to your posts the way they do.
As for being more experienced that all of us put together on the subject of russian women.........words fail me.
Take your advice somewhere else
Bravo dragstar your dead right mate this Aussieman above the visas he talks crap mate ive had 1 girl hear for 90 days its not hard ! where do they get these ideas you can head down to several orthordox churches in both adelaide and perth and see up to 300 russians ( plenty of sweet girls hear in aussie any sunday morning )
I think aussie man is on the demon ''drink ' tell you what il do guys ( as according to aussie man shocK horror you cant get a girl to aussie on tourist visa ) amazing who did i have a my house for 90 days - batman ???
Aussieman you are correct about 1 thing fiance visas hear are hard - but i mean your an aussie who in thier right mind in aussia would want to get married these days ??
If i ever got married again id get married over in russia and live in russia full stop .
bring her to aussie in most cases you are bringing the wolf to the chook pen you then have risk of cleanout -your an aussie you know our laws divorce the bitch gets the lot the judge wont see the man in court even if he is standing on a ladder holding up 10 balloons the man loses the lot -------why would yu take the risk ????
Il head down orthordox church hear next sunday morning kodak in tow il take 4/ 5 pics il prove to no end that hundreds of russian birds hear ( and NO they aint all married ) il then forward the pics to anybody on hear whom wishes copies --hows that for dinkum my fuel costs pics --prove it to you that some on hear are on drugs - i got my girl hear on a standard 48r tourist vise from march to june 2005 ---
Is there a drug store at internet cafe where they all get HIGH before coming on forum i hear the most rediculous things on this place .
venacheka mate you have ''lost it totally '' sell up and go to russia by god i shall il run to the airport 80% to get away from the negatives that live hear the ''joanas '' ohh it cant be done --------all the crap --all the defeatists -- beat before they get outu bed ay .
the untra conservative biggots that infest aussie - the politically correct head nodders .yuk .
ps MATE TAKE MANY A YEAR TO RUN MY money out ! i can survive all up 10/ 14 years in russia at average income off my assetts and dollars at around 20k AUD A YEAR you know russia
ok -you'l also know that unless you were pissed 24/7 for 8 months of the year you could not spend 20k aud in a year -guess what --i dont drink or smoke ! ive got no habits ! i can live like a russian if i have to ''and i aint got no rent to pay'' sad sad sad !!!iam so far in front they need a telescope to see me .
Iam having a great time with my girl shes bloody fabulous ! no complaints --mind you if she ever turned sour well --------you dont toss yourself into gutter and say ohh woe is me you gather yourself --head out and get another lovely -
Its only as hard as you make it -and no ive never been to an agency i can find a girl in the street -----its really not hard .
life moves on --''insane to go to russia '' hell i damn near live thier average 5 months of the year anyway thats why ''dill '' i bought apartment there i dont have to pay rent ! smart move yes .
good show GEMINI we might be getting through to them mate though its hard ( you can't but brains in monuments - the pidgeons shit on em ay ) lol lol..
You are correct mate our $$ go a long way in russia ukraine , and yes we both know its ok to live there our russian girls and the family well in my case shepherd me iam always kept safe ---------the scred folks are the ones of no adventure --get out and enjoy the place tell you what mate plenty of $$$$ on russian riviera thats for sure Down Adler way i was a tad shocked but i see as you say --yes there is opportunities there .
Il ask at embassy iam sure there is a way to get long term ukraine visa stay hmm must be mate seems to be a way around everything else ay .
Venecheka hmm if you spend all your time in ukraine then you wont know much about russia will you its a different world in lot of ways --its ok il educate you for free ok
mike 00 .
Mike, yes i am a kiwi. I'm not poor either, I'm in the UK earning pounds not your south pacific peso's buddy. Even when i was in NZ i was earning twice what joe average aussie makes.
I can just picture you in russia, in shorts and jandels and a can of fosters in your hand laughing at your own jokes cause no one else will understand what your yabbering on about. I left NZ cos it was being run by Helen Clarke. Aussie isn't any better mind you. What about that Pauline Hanson bird! God help everyone if she runs the country.
I don't beleive for one second your girl is happy with the arrangement as you make out...or at least when your gone shes back with her boyfriend. I recall you posting that your girl wanted to go to turkey with a friend...hmm i wonder why!! I bet she got a pay increase out of you to change her mind.
I laugh at the way Vanechka travels to Ukraine each year but only seems to meet Russian and never Ukrainian. I also laugh at how 'it' decides that Russian women, that 'it' meets in Ukraine, think of all western men as one race whether they be American, Canadian, Brazilian,Icelandic, Swiss, British, Spanish, French, Japanese, Australian, Singaporean or whatever, yep, we're all the same and think the same way apparently :)
ben your a ''dill '' whom knows zero of russia get back to your coconuts you know the big beefy ones --bull heads in cook islands
ps i dont entertain poverty encrusted kiwi's
waste of space
pass the hat around the island to raise a fare to russia for 1
very good on the dole hear in aussie thats thier grandest job = wroughting the system , i had a kiwi sister in law - what a prune believe what you will mate you mean zero to me as most kiwis looked upon hear as a tenplate to avoid failure in life .