hey Scotti,, take it as a grain of salt, these women giving you there email,, i found it was a ploy to get them selves off those sites so they can reuse them again after trying you out,, so they don't leave much of a trail,,
there really is no reason to leave certain sites if they have private email or not,, it really doesnt make sense for there is no gain to leave a site where convenience is as easy as private mail and cost is virtually nothing.
people are not penny-less over there,, scamming cows want you to think so.
some of these women or guys have fantastic programs that are only usable at speed with private email,, these programs I'm thinking cannot be used easily through site were they have to paste it and so on,, "to much time take up for them"
sounds James bond-ish but I'm sure of it,,,
the person i communicate with i use both,,private and site address,, site address more.
i think she even prefers site address.
my search is based on Russia only,, i have come across many scammers wanting money,, unbelievable amounts,, some were good, very good,,, for they took 5-6 weeks to show themselves, now that's dedication..
kiwinorth,,
I'm really not even sure what the hell your talking about, I kinda get what your saying, but I lose your point in all of it,
However,Since Olga Yelled at me,
from this point forward I'm going to be more upbeat and positive, so I'll just assume you had something good to say on this topic.
Scotty....how long have you been on this site??? You don't sound a very bright individual to tell people(this site) that they are doing something wrong. They have been in this business for several years, they must be doing something right( except for last 6 months, another story), when someone is deemed scammer and proven they are gone. It sounds like you are more finding problems with site than concentrating on girls. If I was Olga, I would have directed you to another site...you don't sound very serious, are you 38 going on 16??? If you have this kind of attitude you will definately not make it. Remember there is language differences, some words don't translate
well, before getting here I had no idea what 'active rest'was or 'many spheres'or 'many sided'!!!!
Cut Scotty a little slack. He's a newby and needs to be shown the ropes a little, thats all. Nearly every new writer does what he is doing before settling in.
MOST new guys though are too shy to really jump in here. They sit on the outside looking in - barely ever contributing. Guys like Scotty are asking the kind of questions that, no doubt, a LOT of guys are curious about.
I'd rather have a lot of questions from him (even if a few sound silly) than have him suddenly declare himself an EXPERT on this whole thing and take over the forum while dispensing useless advice- after ZERO or perhaps one trip as SOME past writers have done (apal specifically comes to mind).
Scotty seems to me to be a good guy and I think his posts are pretty decent.
Don't mean to be on Scotty, Jet but his brashness reminds me of apal, you know where that led.....
I think a little on learning curve is best, newbees should ask questions about girls and learn through answers.
Just my thinking. Personally, I think Scotty should not be looking for FSU at moment, from his posts there is
still much anger and vengence from marrige, talk of being one up on ex-wife shows he is more into making her jealous than finding a partner.....you need a clear mind to evaluate FSU girls.
I hope he reads this......I am trying to be helpful
Scotti all i meant was i have had more trouble with girls wanting to use private email,,
its where a lot of scammers like to go, get you on one to one basis,, then they use prewritten letters formed letters with all your questions stuck in in various places like they wrote it,,
i think they use special programs for this, its a part bad sign when you see the bat used for there emailing,, not always, but i have found Russia itself one hell of a mine field and particular places are worse then others for time wasting,,
its just a time thing,, its all good
Another serious question, and I did try to research this but maybe I missed it in pass forums, or in other knowledge base area's, but
When trying to find a candidate ( that sounds so cold, candidate, okay a serious woman for dating and possibly more ) , did you guys waste much time on the girls that seem to flood your inbox from "website X" ( not gonna use any names here ) or did you seem to do a search more and then found more real prospects that way.
Scotty....if you are referring to anastasia( you can name sites here)they are all intro letters sent out in mass, reason I know this is because girls I have written to on fiance wrote me in anastasia with a letter that was written without as if they didn't know me.
I hope you don't take my posts personally...I am not picking on anyone.....Good Luck!!
No I wasn't refering to them, I see no point in that, just wondered how others were approaching it, Probably just use my best judgement and move forward, thank you. There's really plenty of info here as it is.
You know, I still can't get it out of my head how that chick would actually go out with you beemer, I mean, Even for bowling and a bite to eat, I just can't can't see how that girl had absolutely nothing better to do than to go out with YOU BEEMER,, ahahaha,
Trouble is Scotty...I was writing to her for 5 months, so she had idea I was a nice guy. You on other hand know nothing about me......she had a nice time, I got an eye full, who lost in that transaction!!!!
I do think many sites, especially pay per letter, are ripe for insincere girls. It is hit and miss, most of what I write to in anastasia seem okay but experience to what to look for has helped me immensely. I can tell usually through letters about sincereness of girl, not 100% proof but my actually meeting with girls is over 80%, so I am doing something right!!!
In re to Gemini...I am spending more time on russian free sites..girls there, if speaking english, have computer at home and easily give e-mail addresses or phone # or qip!!!
beemer,
I'm hitting on a point you have mentioned regarding insincere ladies on pay per letter sites and there is no 'rule of thumb'.
As some of you will know I am best friends with an agency in Zaporozhye and on my last but one visit there the wife and I were out for dinner with a friend of ours who is a lady client of the agency.
She is profiled on Global Ladies and I joked regarding the spam letters that GL send out and without the lady's knowledge. She remarked 'yes, I keep getting letters from men and they say thank you for writing to them but I didn't write to them!'.
Now whilst pay per letter is an extremely questionable practice this is just one example, and I know for sure, that this lady in particular is so anxious to meet a good man and there is no way that she can be described as 'insincere'.
You make a good point Martin, it is agency's that are pumping out the intro letters. I had a case of girl I met here from fiance, we spent a week together and when I joined anastasia I got letter from her(she had left fiance),
her letter mentioned nothing about me in particular. When I complained to anastasia, they explained to me that maybe she didn't recognize me...I told them.... would they think a girl would recognize them if they spent a week together. They gave me back my credit but never admitting it was a form into letter, I do think girl never knew about intro letter.
Oh,, she couldn't have had that nice of a time if she was with you Beemer. It was probably a toss up that night between another guy that had asked her out several times ( fat,bald,midget who had hinted several times that he has a foot fetish involving warts ) or go out with you, Now after wieghing the pro's and Con's between the two of you for many hours, she eventually just flipped a coin, thus
Scotty...really I don't get your humor???? The only 'wieghing' that was done was making sure she was really 115lbs!! After careful consideration....she was only 112lbs. She was never a Miss Wow....but when I met her at airport...I said WOW!!!!! Only girl I have ever met that looked way better in person than in pics!!!
Do I detect a certain amount of jealousy...over me dating a Miss Wow?????
If a guy can 'get off' for dating a Miss Wow then I, personally, feel very sorry for him. 'Miss Wow' is merely a marketing ploy of this site, and this site only, and a Fiance.com (Fiance being a male, Fiancee being a female) Miss Wow is based purely on numbers of letters, REVENUE, generated and she probably wouldn't make it in the real world.
Why don't they have a 'Mr Wow'? Equal opportunities and all that? ..... Sex discrimination? :)