Hi All, Have you notices a distinct increase in the number of letters you receive, particularly since the credit crunch started? I have, in fact my mail box is bursting at the seams. It seems to me that all these letters are being sent out like spam mail in the hope that men will open them and the agency will receive its commission. It's a major scam, full stop. I have used these sites for a couple of years and visited a lady in Odessa and I was exceptionally lucky as the lady was genuine. In fact I fell ill whilst I was there and she looked after me at her own expense and we remain friends.
However, since then I it sees that 99.99% of all the mail I receivr is from scammers. For instance I was communicating with a lady named Larisa Belous (id: 80325) on another site and we had been chatting for some time when I received a letter from her on this site; it was an introduction letter clearly sent out by the agency involved as a scam. I have come to the conclusion that almost all f the women on these sites are involved with or being used by scamming agencies and as a result I think I will forget the whole thing. This is a shame as the women I met in Odessa was bright, sexy and fun to be with but it appears that she is the rare exception.
If there was a club of scammers, and there were a dozen people on the club, I would be willing to bet at least one of them were not scammers. If there was a club of honest people, and there were a dozen people on the club, I would be willing to bet there was one scammer.
Sorry Raging Bull, But all the research done by various bodies suggests otherwise. Basically, every site contains a high percentage of scammers...fact. The way these sites are run and the simple lack of policing of the agencies by the website make them wide open to scam. If you don't belive me try compaining to the website about a scaming agency and see where it gets you. Yes, there are some genuine women on the sites as I stated in my previous post but this in no way invalidates the statement that all sites have scammers and that they increase in number when times get hard. Nor does it invalidate the statement that the websites are not doing anywhere near enough to stamp out the scammers.
HLTX7, I don't disagree with you in most of what you say. But the title of the thread is "ALL sites are Scammers". Now, you're saying it's a high percentage. That means it is not "all" like you say. I'm sure many here would be interested in the research done by various bodies that you mention. Please clue us in.
must be beginners luck the one lady I did go meet was genuine the only problem is the language barrier. she is currently taking more English classes to improve this. on my next trip before I go see her again I have 2 more to go meet.
if you are talking about sites were you pay per letter, then, yes, 95% are scams.
This doesn't meet that the woman who you fly to meet doesn't exist. she does. its just that it is a total crap shoot that the two of you will have chemistry.
people don't understand why its a scam.
its a scam because agencies like anastasia, will not let you just go over and meet the women in the cities. wouldn't that be the common sense approach? of course it would be. but they are not interested in doing this because most of the women don't actually want to meet someone and most of the money is made with letter translating
if you don't believe me go on a tour. you will see that most of the girls are not the ones on the website. or are the least attractive ones.
HLTX... I agree there has been a marked increase in "letters" in my inbox(s) also. I have an old account at rwglobe and I'm pummeled daily by scammers there. I know they (or their agency) are scammers because my profile only contains a picture of a very old ugly man however I have many beautiful 20 somethings that just can't wait to meet me... go figure. BTW I have seen a major increase from Belarus women contacting me.
Gecko, you cannot hold agencies cannot be responsible for not having chemistry with a woman. You cannot hold this as a reason for a website being a scam.
Anastasia will not let you meet women in the cities? I met women from rwglobe and AOB, and there was no problem or even a hint that they will not let you meet the women in cities.
What an Idiot. Deception will get you nothing mini, hell you probably blew off a decent woman because you were trying to be too clever. They only way you are scammed if you have to use money. Simple no deception needed. Though you might need the deception.
must be beginners luck the one lady I did go meet was genuine the only problem is the language barrier. she is currently taking more English classes to improve this. on my next trip before I go see her again I have 2 more to go meet.
Bowhunter...is your lady friend paying for her English classes? Or is your credit card doing the work? Do you have proof she is actually taking the classes? Just wondering.
Its common knowledge that first/introductory letters on pay-per-letter sites are initiated by the agency and not the woman herself. This doesn't make the agencies or the girls involved necessarily scammers per sa although a certain proportion are.
LISTEN UP BOYS!
I HAVE BEEN THERE THREE TIMES, MY FRIEND, WHO I WON'T SAY HER NAME WORKS FOR MARRIAGE AGENCY IN NIKOLAEV. THEY GET PAYED FOR EVERYTHING FROM WRITING LETTER, KEEPING YOU ON LINE AS LONG AS THEY CAN, FROM GOING ON A DATE WITH YOU. THEY GET PAID TO SHOW UP AT SOCIALS, EVERY TIME YOU SEND A LETTER TO THEM THEY GET A PERCENTAGE OF IT, EVERY TIME YOU OPEN A LETTER THEY GET A PERCENTAGE OF IT. I HAVE BEEN A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP ENGUAGED FOR ONE YEAR APPLIED THREW HOLMES AND LOLLY IMMAGRATION ATTY FOR VISA IT JUST GOT APPROVED, I SUPPORTED HER AND HER FAMILY SINCE APRIL OF 2007 TO THE TUNE OF $20,000 NOT COUNTING THE $12,000 DIAMOND ROCK, BOOB JOB, FOOT SURGREY, MOMS DENTIST VISITS, AIR CONDITIONER FOR THE FLAT, NEW HOT WATER HEATER, THREE TRIPS AT $4000.OO AND IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON.SHE MADE MONEY ON RENTING ME MY APARTMENT FOR $60.00 A DAY I FOUND OUT THAT IT WAS ONLY $25.00 SHE EVEN MADE MONEY ON THE TAXIE RIDES. I JUST LET HER KNOW THAT THE VISA WENT THREW AND NOW SHE HAS CHANGED HER MIND AND NOW SHE SAYS I HAVE REPROCHED HER. HER ID# IS 77848 ON DREAM MARRIAGE. ON ANASTASIA ITS 1100334, ON HOT RUSSIAN BRIDES ITS BARONESS, ON CANDY BRIDES BIKINI PHOTOS ITS 41424 ITS THE SAME ON ARMY OF BRIDES BIKINI PHOTOS. SHE IS PROBLEY ON AT LEAST 20 DIFFERENT SITES. WHEN I MET THIS GIRL SHE WAS SO POOR AND UNHAPPY! JUST LOOK AT THE PHOTOS OF HER ON ANASTASIA, THEN COMPARE THEM TO THE OTHERS AND YOU WILL GET THE IDEA. ALL I CAN SAY IS GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE RUSSIAN PUSSY AND START SMELLING YOUR OWN BLOOD!!!!! I CAN ONLY BLAME MYSELF FOR THIS> BUT I WILL POST MY STORY IN FULL ON EVERY SCAM PAGE AND WHERE EVER ELSE. IN FACT WHEN I WAS THERE OVER XMAS SHE HAD ANOTHER MAN VISITING ALSO. I TRIED TO LOCATE HIM BUT NO LUCK YET HIS PROFILE WAS ON RUSSIAN BRIDE MATCH NATASHA CLUB .COM ID# ZAQ898 PROFILE NO LONGER ACTIVE AND HERS WAS 1000093714 GENTLEANDDEVOTED HE IS FROM RENO IF YOU NO HIM FOR GOD SAKE HAVE HIM CONTACT ME
she is paying for the lessons herself, she is to proud to ask for any help. she already passed that test. I do send her a little some thing on special occasions like Christmas and her birthday but that's it. when I am there she never asks to go shopping and prefers to cook for me. she also spends a lot of time making sure I have all I need and is more than happy to show me the sights. she did ask to go shoot pool but other than that she has never asked for any thing. I will admit I did buy her a pair of boots as a thank you for all she did for me when I was there.
Sounds like you found yourself a rare good one there Bowhunter! I hope it works out for you. I've never met a Ukrainian girl I talked to like that ever. Have to say I'm a bit envious of you. ;)
Bow sounds exactly how my lady treated me. Keep your spirits up and your head down and eyes open. Nothing wrong with trust but verify. Problem is too many guys don't trust and it gives off a bad vibe to these ladies. They have a unique sense about this. DavidUSA is one that has been spurned on here and typical of the naysayers.
Here's a website to entertain you scammer hunters. http://www.delphifaq.com/outside_the_cube_dating_scams_full.htm
It will keep you spurned men busy and a half way decent trust but verify section. Better than some anti scam sites, as with any of these sites use common sense, you can read between the lines. I used this site 4 years ago. It weeded out the BS rather quickly.
I am sure there are many websites that are full of scammers much like much of the web itself. However, there is one I can recommend and I do so for many reasons. Number one, its reasonably priced. Six months for $99. Sometimes they run $69 specials. Unlimited contacts. Number two, I know for a fact that if a woman emails you and remotely asks for money, they will kick her off the site if you forward the email to them. To me, you cant ask for better monitoring than that.
The website www.elenasmodels.com
Back when I was looking, I used it a lot and met quite a few very nice women and my share of players. Obviously the drop dead jaw slacked open beauties are getting a million emails a day from guys all over the world. But you can select their age, height, weight, hair color, hair length, kids or no kids, and level of fluency of English or whatever your language is. Makes it very easy. Obviously, fluent in English limits some of the selection but I would think meeting someone and her not being able to communicate with you wouldnt be what you want anyway.
And with the free translation websites like www.free translations.com, there isnt a need to spend money on interpreters, etc for emails.
Hey I met my Anya there and its been great! Shes the real deal, never asked me for a dime, and we are filing our K-1 next month. So wish us luck!
Wake up guys! It's all a scam period. I wasted alot of money and time. You'll do the same stop swimming down the river of denile. (The Nile) Listen to Todd! You will find out the hard way. How many girls contact you where you are if you post an add? Think about it.
First of all, consider the subject matter here. Who in their right mind would pay per letter for anything? So basically you are paying a woman to read your letter? If she liked you, she would say "write me at 1234@rr.com or whatever". A woman taking your letters when you pay per letter? That guarantees her to be doing it either 1) just for money or 2) its not even her. Use your head guys!
There are plenty of wonderful women there. Combine that with the piss poor attitude (and looks) of Russian men and the significant population gender difference (less men than women), the odds of meeting a decent woman to share your life with is very good.
Just check yourself. Again, if you think that Ms. 25 year old Ukrainian beauty wants a 55 year old man with a fat wallet, you are kidding yourself. Sure, she will take your money, and let you spend your money but its not anything near love and never will be. One day your money will dry up or she will actually want something real in her life. Then its bye bye.