Gents,
When a woman shares with you that her Mother, sister and co-workers told her she is crazy for looking outside of her country for a mate, I tend to believe her. BTW, her Father passed away about the same time as mine did. Only a couple months diff... Her family life was in a secure traditional family and they worked an ordinary life. When she says that she did not look into business opportunities in the USA because she did not consider meeting an American or did not know in which direction this would lead her, I believe her. When you do nothing but talk about life, the state of the world, people in general and your desires in months before you actually meet, I believe in her. That she is very excited about hiking the Appalachian Trail - she has a geology background - I believe her. That she was not disgusted when I told her I was making Bambi Burgers on the grill and she actually wished she could share it with me, I believe her. She actually had to hunt(primitive style) "Two partridge on my conscsience..." and survive for over a month on an research expedition during the collapse of the Soviet Union - funds were cut and they were left on their own in the middle of no-where. Talk about walking miles looking for berries, mushrooms and edible plants - how many women do you know have this kind of life experience? Now she is taking steps to further her interest in an internet venture knowing it will be in the USA. She is networking with her past business acquaintences. She also has an economics degree from Moscow University to go along with her Geology degree. She is sharp, good looking and just a normal person. She knows that we will spend time white water rafting, camping and exploring nature. She also looks good in an evening dress. She knows we will attend several theater shows a year, see the symphony and ballet and many concerts. She was envious that she couldn't be with me for the last Bruce Springsteen concert. She almost understands what a weekend camping at a Bluegrass festival is all about. She already knows I am a gourmet cook. And that we will be selective on restaurants we chose.
Where is this going????
After many conversations, letters and constant communication since "The Trip", there is no doubt in my mind that by this time next year I will be married to a wonderful person. I was told seven months before K1 was approved. It varies depending on who I talk to. But I would rather have a spring wedding than a winter wedding. Yet there is much work to do. We are both very much on the same page.
I figured I would post this. Let the flood gates open.
I will listen to all advice -- good or bad. And I will certainly be open to honest critisism.
There is no doubt in my mind that I have met the one. "She is a keeper" "Game, set and match."
Those thoughts were immediate. But trust, then verify... I think I am very fortunate, lucky and have hit the lottery. Of course I'll let you know in a year if I f'd up or not. But I don't think so. For now at least. It was not an immediate thought - but yes, we agree to be married next year.
So why would I want to waste time searching for a young girl to show off? I will have a good partner to show off. And very sexy to boot! Incredibly sexy!!!!
Congrats to you both. I too found a real woman and we continue to learn all about each other. We are totally compatible with each other.
Visa Journey is THE site for all information visa related. Read the Guides and follow their examples. You will find me there and visit the Russia specific forum. Many real folks who will give you good information.
The Guides will tell you step by step on what to do. What forms are required and there are example forms so you do not fill them out incorrectly.
Sounds like you might have struck gold Julian. Good on you !!!
She sounds perfect - shes seen and been through the tuff and ruff - same as my Lena. My Lena and her family lost 10's of 1000's from in Banks and sold ALL there gold jewellery to keep their heads above water in those early 90's. When a women talks about nature and collecting from the wild - I know you are onto a GOOD thing. We better hook up in early August in Kiev. PM me your contact details
All the best - good luck
Peter & Lena
PS My Lena asked - what part of Russia Lena form ??
Doubtless, some of the guys will caution you (in a caring way) about moving so fast. It's hard to really know about somebody... even when you've been married to them for 10 years! For what it's worth, my intuition from all you've written about the woman you've found, is that she's the genuine article. And statistically, the youngun's without children seem a lot more likely to be trouble, than a mom well into her 30s.
Of course, in your shoes I would want to spend as much time as practical visiting her in the coming months, to get to know each other as well as can be (and of course, to enjoy one of the happiest times of life), but for most guys, travel time is limited.
Some practical matters will come up. As has been posted on this site recently, for the K-1 visa application, the State Department will want evidence of your relationship outside of the U.S. You can have fun collecting evidence during your August visit!
And then there's her just-about-grown son (I think you wrote the he's 19)? Will she want him to come to America? If not, how will she feel about living so far away from him? There's plenty of time to work these things about, but of course they're mighty important.
Really Best Wishes!
P.S. Truly, your story keeps inspiring me. Already, you survived a wild-and-crazy first trip with some memorable experiences and meetings. And if you really found The One ... well, you da man.
P.P.S. I hope you won't turn white as a sheet when you read this... and I think it very, very unlikely risk... but I hope to God that your Lena never finds this forum!
I sent you a detailed message. It was lost. I'll write again soon.
Would like to meet in Kiev. Arrive July 27. Leave Aug 4. Her son is coming in to visit for a day Aug 2. They will leave together the 3rd. Let me know if the end of week in July would be good to meet.
that would suck for sure -- if she discovered forum -- aside from my little adventure before we got together I have said nothing bad or revealling(well maybe some things) about this woman other than good stuff... so if she did and figured it out she would be pissed about MissU, but flattered as well--you're right, hope she never finds this. we are in constant contact -- skype is great
The adventures Of Julian and Miss Russia must end now. Durak has put the fear of God in me!
As for son, we are debating whether or not to include him K1 application, he is not going to move here. will finish school first and maybe wish to continue post grad studies and internship in US, it would be for easy travel purpose. I still have to figure out if he can get some kind of visa that will allow hime to travel back and forth to visit-- I haven't dug that deep.
Is there a way he can get some sort of visa that allows him to stay home and travel at will or is on a case by case bases?
Julian asks an important question -- what is the visa situation for an adult (over 18) child of a parent married to a U.S. citizen, when that parent has not yet received a green card (conditional permanent resident). Common sense would suggest that it's relatively easy for such a person to get a visitor visa, but what does common sense have to do with U.S. immigration. Does anybody know about this?
If he COULD get a visitor visa, sometimes these allow unlimited visits for a 5 year period.
ROFL, wait till you see your RW with her hackles really up. Then you'll know fear. BTW, I would be a little surprised if she doesn't find it if not already. RW, particularly those well educated have a nose for unearthing things which is without peer.
Dr, Well in case she finds it; honey you are the best, no one could ever come close to you, I have lived my life in a vacuum until you arrived, I don't know how I ever lived without you in my life, you are the reason for my existence, you are wonderful, the most rare of gems,
sorry that I was banging this other chick like an old screen door days before we met, I herby give you the keys to my dick!
I already have a sense of how they can be. But the first time she got her dander up, I jumped all over her. In no uncertain terms she immediately understood and was apologetic. Be a man and they will not be so pushy. Life is a testing ground. And women are constantly experimenting with how much shit they can get away with. Or how much they can dominate a man. Many think that pussy -- or having one -- gives them supreme rights over the dicks that need them. Not always the case. Yeah, I had many arguments with my dick in the past. But that was in younger years. These days my dick only gets a confirmatory vote. And sometimes my dick is sent on exploratory conferences. Usually the report is inconclusive. My dick is not good at disguishing the merits or foibles pussy incorporated. But my dick does appreciate a good corporation. ;) Especially when there is evidence of a well maintained and well structured company. :)=
But now, my dick understands that there will be no more bench marking trips.
I feel bad that I was screwing some chick for three days prior to my beloved's arrival. But at the time - as was mentioned to me by many - what was the guarantee that as I was standing on the train station platform that the woman of my dreams would actually show up? She did. Wow! Not that I was surprised, but hey, you never know. From everything I have read on this forum I was skeptical to say the least. Horror stories, scammers and just plain users over there. And for them it is probably the same. Many men go over there for just a stroke of the ego and to hook up with someone who believes they are seriously looking for a wife. Man gets pussy and goes away. Woman - stunned, pissed and angry. I know right now a lady is crying the blues because I did exactly that. Because I am new to this, I can only imagine this has been going on for a few decades. Perhaps in the beginning it was very much a sincere way for a woman to meet a good man from another place who would be able to provide a life for her and give her an opportunity to live the good life. And an opportunity for losers to find a good woman. Over the years it has gotten rotten. Men are just as much - or more - to blame than the women who are "scamming". Opportunity knocks. Many men are stupid. Or rather, the committee is not balanced. Meaning they think with their dicks. Women, God bless them, know this. So why should they not take advantage of some clueless dick?
For years, and I laugh at this, it was said the way to a man's heart is through his stomach. ???? WTF??? Yes Dear, cook me a nice meal and I will forever be in your debt. Ladies and gentlemen, the way to a man's heart is through your lips(hers). I find it amazing the number of married guys I know that do not experience regular blow jobs. Or that it is a special event. There is nothing more pleasing to a man than having his woman spend time worshiping his cock with her mouth. The ultimate French kiss. And of course be ready to reciprocate. I shouldn't share this but I will. God forgive me. Funny thing said to me after about thirty minutes of being pleasured. "You me!" Meaning it's my turn. And I was more than willing!
Honey, if you find this and read my story, I was only sharing my experience. I hold you the highest regard. You already know that. And with you sense of humor I'm sure you are laughing out loud.
I'd suggest you stop digging a grave Julian. You only need to tell us that you are both compatible and happy with each other.
I know you are only catering to the basic mentality on this forum.
Check out all the different visa types on Visa Journey. I use the same screen name over there. Feel free to PM me anytime; I've hooked up with a quite a few very knowledgeable folks who have successfully gone through the process.
I feel really sorry for the RW that Julian35 manages to trick into coming to the US. You are why the term MAIL ORDER BRIDE has such a bad connotation. You might be able to con her into coming her but look out she will flee from you the first chance she gets.
"I know you are only catering to the basic mentality on this forum."
This might have to do with the 'stories' that have been written on 'the trip'. I for one while reading many of them wonder how much is just ole plain fantasy. I do have some idea as to how many ukrainian women act and high on that list is scratch my back and i'll scratch yours, nothing is for free, so unless julian is god gift to women.....drama is the operative word.Or was that 'just having fun'.
I just wonder how julian and miss russia had deep discussions on their lives when communication was limited to grunts and groans, some written words or just pointing since no 'interpreter' needed. It was nice he got to spend lots of alone time with her. After less than 3 months letters writing, 5 days of limited communication and 2 weeks more of letter writing there is a K-1 in the process? Please read what colin went through and he had a longer and closer relationship. Just my humble opinion. Nothing personal julian.....
The K-1 process will allow them to get to know each other better. Yes for some there must be many trips and years worth of communication and even then there are heartbreak stories. There is no one way to do this.
The basic mentality I was talking about is the bantering and flaming that many of you do to each other, basically hijacking a good thread.
There is more of that than good constructive criticism and guidance.
Baron...the K-1 process is not to get to know someone better, it is the process of getting to another country legally. Getting to know someone, to me, is a process to develop a relationship, it may take a few months or it may take a few years, I take this seriously. I may be wrong but it seems many of the guys that look and find a women in FSU don't really develop a relationship, it is difficult because of the distance and time spent with each other. I don't call writing letters to a girl count as part of process, it is the time spent with each other that is most important and communication is a big part of it. Just some thoughts
I just hope the newer guys just take in all, learn from it and take what is most useful for them.
I do know there is no one way of doing this, we are all individuals but be responsible for your own actions. It gets tiring to hear the stories of guys blaming girls for getting scammed....it is 100% guys fault, no one put a gun to anybodys head.
Barron, this is a public forum, it goes on tangents every now and then, no policeing, just bare with it...it eventually gets back to normal
Beem, the K-1 process, by it's long drawn out nature does allow the couple more time to get to know each other. I don't know about you but my RW and I continue to get to know each other better by our Skype video sessions, our emails and photos sent back and forth. At least for us, we don't need to by physically next to each other to have heart to heart conversations or learn about each other or for me to tell her all about life in the US.
As you stated, communication is a big part of the process and that is just what we are doing.
Barron....be it just semantics but I have been in this process of finding a girl in FSU for around 3 years along with this forum. To me the K-1 process will begin when I start filling in the forms to bring a girl to US, by then much of the groundwork will have been formulated..... and I am sure much more work will have to be done for girl to assimulate to new culture, new language...a new life.
Great that you have various forms of communication...just nothing beats being next to each other. Can you imagine if you and your girl didn't speak same language....takes alot away. That is a big point......I was with a girl a couple times that didn't speak english, it was fun for a little while, had a nice time trying to communicate but when we had our interpreter with us it so easy to speak to each other and communicate some things that were hard by ourselves....it could get a little frustrating.