giss...has the drugs your taking for your illness affecting you?
You seem to be all over the place...
Teacher leaving for kiev from sumy on friday back on Monday( not 5 days as you mentioned)
Doctor leaving for kiev from sumy on monday be back friday
then your imaginary country trip to nikolaev from sumy on monday, be back thursday....never happened???? Can you really be in two places at one time? ;-))
now you are at kharkov zoo with model? Well....weather is cold and cloudy!!! I'll look for you at entrance!!!! Long trip for just the day....
I think I counted 3 different women cooking you dinner at your apt on Sunday...hope you all have good time together!!
And the beat goes on.......wonder which way the wind is blowing today....
Um Ivor Im not one for going out drinking so I wasnt wasted as you would be.
giss
29.09.2011 22:26:46
spent the evening in a traditional Russian village restaurant drinking vodka with dinner. All of us (3 with translator) had a great time. We got up to about 10 toasts and perhaps a little toasted ourselves. #3 could not have been sitting closer to me with out being on my lap. The translator kept asking if we were in love yet and after each shot I would tell her Just a little more.
giss
30.09.2011 15:16:52
So at lunch time, with nothing to do I hooked up with the 22 year old woman who saved me from being stranded in Kiev. We started drinking around noon and stayed till 4.
Wow you guys really cant read (and ivor cant tell time either) I cant help when it says these were posted. For example it is 7:15 now.
Anyway had a great time with the model and her son yesterday but not that great. I think Im going to skip dinner at my house today as it will just be a huge waste of time. #3 asked me to be sure I didnt leave with out saying goodbye. Shes very sweet maybe Ill catch up with her today. Also the kidney doc wrote saying she was very sad we didnt meet friday in another very nice letter. Maybe Ill catch up with her today instead.
>Um Ivor Im not one for going out drinking so I wasnt wasted as you would be.
Ivor claimed this was 7 am. what a genius!
>giss
>29.09.2011 22:26:46
spent the evening in a traditional Russian village restaurant drinking vodka with dinner. All of us (3 with translator) had a great time. We got up to about 10 toasts and perhaps a little toasted ourselves. #3 could not have been sitting closer to me with out being on my lap. The translator kept asking if we were in love yet and after each shot I would tell her Just a little more.
Ivor 5 to 10 pm EVENING, not all night. do you speak english?
>giss
>30.09.2011 15:16:52
So at lunch time, with nothing to do I hooked up with the 22 year old woman who saved me from being stranded in Kiev. We started drinking around noon and stayed till 4.
Ivor, the day before. Do you think iM just here for one day? Could you possibly be a bigger loser? Have I posted 9 long posts about the days? No just 5 or so? Wow that means some of the days are combined! Who would have been smart enough to think! Certainly not you!
So my days are growing short in Sumy. Lets see, One lovely woman who is a gardener who loves me. One woman who works in a bank who loves me, a model who is well on her way, and now the word is out more women are asking for a date before I leave! Im really a great guy no matter what it sounds like here. Ive heard more than one woman say "If all men treated women like you there would be no divorce". One woman even asked if she could leave Sumy at 1 am with me to ride with me to Kiev. She doesnt speak english even. All the women are great and I treated them all like ladies, except my teacher pal. She pulled some crap when we finally met, blaming me for everything from wars to the rain. She was very impolite when I was leaving so I wrote her a very um impolite note. I told her where she could apply that sucking sound she was making me as kissing me goodbye as I was leaving. Oddly she is still asking to meet me before I leave. Maybe her friends are going to kick my ass. I think Ill pass.
Um giss...maybe it has something to do with your writing??
"The saga continues. wheres lonely ranger when you need his writing ability?"
I understand some time difference in posts, yours are 7 hours after time listed you posted(EST)...your story does get very confusing at times.....
"She returned on monday, did not meet till friday = 5 days
That sentence is about teacher(monday) and docter (friday 5 days)?????
"You dont seriously think I would sit in my apartment for 5 days waiting for you to imagine you waited long enough?"
Giss...teacher came back on monday, left on Friday...three days. Actually giss, you waited exactly <1 day to start dating while teacher was gone!!!!
Lets try quoting how serious your word is giss?? huh?
"I have now found out that the teacher did in fact have to go to Kiev for work and she only got back a few hours ago. Her agency keeps calling me to set me up with ever more women but I have told them I will not see any others until I have seen her."
AS of 9/29...." The teacher still hasnt appeared and I dont think she will."
I did lose count of women you have seen, past count of my fingers!!!
And in first post here giss....you were so gun ho of not breaking promises????
I still wonder in about that country trip???? ".....who again is promised by the translator to meet with me today) has prompted me to take the country house option tomorrow night., I will just make it a 1 night visit to there."
That 1 night visit to nikolaev by train is ~15 hours from sumy...maybe that is why it disappeared?
Wondering about that zoo trip also giss, no details...reason i asked is it is cloudy, cold and rainy in Kharkov....kind of puts damper on a 2 hour taxi ride each way.....and I saw no guy with model girl with her kid or else I would have greeted you!!!!....
Can't wait to hear who the finalist is giss....you take care now!!!:-))
Giss: Your trip has been just what I was expecting it to be. It is probably all that you had wanted in effect. That is, meeting many women. I did not expect you to come home with a wife and neither did those that have continued to argue. Now that you have made the trip and shared some of the events, can you share with us the cost of such a journey. Maybe from the time you arrived in Kiev to the return. I think I might want to travel to Sumy as well as some of the newbies. Now that you have been there, your experience and advice is welcome
I can't even be bothered to read his nonsense in so much detail but ... someone that would be having such a busy and so occupied time with women falling in love with him, it seems, by the day ... why is he on this forum talking about it and so often, why isn't he in the company of one of these, so many, women?
There is a saying ... "The guys that talk about it are the guys that ain't getting it". :)
Holy crap people really are illiterate! Teacher. Left friday for Kiev. Returned Monday but didnt meet until the following friday! So returned monday, and met on friday. How many days is that? USe your fingers!
YEs, I told them that I would not see any other women until I met with the teacher. I went with my interpreter (another one) to get her coat fixed as we were just hanging out, and met the model. Was not planned or organized by any agency.
Nikolaev is in Nikolaev. Country house is about 1 hour outside of Sumy. See periods end complete thoughts.
Trip to zoo rocked! Her son had never been to a real zoo and saw many animals for the first time in his life! He kept telling his mom that I was a good man but he thought I was with the translator. He also kept saying that this was the best day of his life. HE was just 9 but a really cool kid. Im leaving him my fishing pole when I go. He asked to use my electronic translator, just to check it out, and right in front of his mom he writes "You I like very much"
Where were you at the zoo? We went from down town, around the opera house, across the park and into the zoo. When we left we went back around the front of the opera house then continued down the street. We went and ate at La CUcharacha Mexican restaurant. Its about 2 blocks from the opera house on the right, downstairs and a guy from ecuador owns it. Food is nothing to write home about but cheap. So you see, I was there. It rained only in the morning and in the evening. It even cleared up to pure sunshine for about 3 hours in the afternoon.
Now on to the finalist! Its #3! Shes a girl next door type who is cute but certainly not beautiful. She is a wonderful woman who actually cares about people, especially me. I am good friends with the one translator and she would call the translator after each of our dates to hear what I had said about her after we parted. She took me to very good restaurants and not one of them was thru the roof expensive like so many other women do in Ukraine. She even would do vodka toasts (with a very small shot of vodka) She is very warm and caring and we spoke for a long time last night and Im giving up on all other women, even back in the states. We are going to meet next time on an island yet to be announced in January. She knows I dated many women while I was here and I have told her about everything. Shes a true sweet heart. Hair as black as coal and dark brown eyes. Not who I expected to meet in Ukraine, but a great woman.
So Im glad for the opinion of all you experts about how what I was doing would never work and was doomed for failure. So lets see, in recap. 1.5 years writing letters, 3 trips to Ukraine over 6 months, total spent, including agency letters, and even for the first trip where I knew nothing and nothing got accomplished, around $18,000. Id have spent that much on travel anyway. Ill be waiting for more expert advice on how things "should" be done from the experts here.....and do the exact opposite.
Beemer I have always thought I would get married in Ukraine since I dont have much family around any more. If this works out in maybe 14 months or so give me your address, you can come to the wedding.
Were you honest with these other women and tell them that you have met someone special? That there was no chance for a relationship, but being a man of your word your would keep your promise and meet them?
Ivor its not that you cant be bothered reading, its just that your mom isnt there to help you with the words over 6 letters long. I dont stay out all night long, I get hope around 10 pm each evening. Im not here to fuck women, Im here to find the right one. If all I wanted to do is get laid i would have stayed in Kiev and banged killer hookers for $75 a pop all night long every night. Or better still just stayed in New Orleans and helped myself to the recently divorced 45 year old women there. No thanks Ivor, I dont need to get wasted to speak to women to hide my inadequacies like you. While you may try to pass judgment on me you are simply unqualified. all of the women I have been with in my life say Im a great guy, kind of like the men you have been with. I hear they say you squeak you are so clean!
If you buy me dinner, buy me your 10 vodka shots, take me to the zoo etc. etc. etc. then I'll tell you that you're a great guy .... you just don't get it do you?
This is what I find so amusing about you, you arrived on to, and remain on, this forum talking, boasting, to the effect that you had/have discovered the wheel, to speak honestly giss you're either so full of shit or you're incredibly naive.
From what I've read above you've occupied a few weeks in FSU, but only in one country of FSU, over the course of 6 months ..... and you believe, it seems, you know everything, that you've got it right and the others that may disagree with you have got it wrong?
OK giss, I'll agree with you, you're a great guy and you know everything, there you go giss, that puts me on a similar par to all these women that are blowing smoke up your arse in exchange for you spending money upon them.
Hahaha Ivor unlike you I can tell when a woman likes me. Ones that just pretend don't come over before work to make you breakfast. They don't "run" into you when you are out with your interpreter between women. They don't ake you gifts and they certainly don't call the interpreter day and night to hear what you may have said about them. Honestly it doesn't matter to me about the money. I mean who doesn't spend $18,000 in two years on entertainment and travel? I have always had platnum elite status on frequent flyers programs see travel is what I do for fun. I've been thinking of bringing my son to Bukovel skiing this winter where cabins rent for over $1000 per week. Ivor is that such a big number you crap your pants? Do you sit home hoarding things worried that someone else may get something if you go outside? Great, live like that. Be your own bitch and enjoy some rough sex with your poodle.
who the hell claimed to be an expert? it is merely some observations and remarks about a seemingly inconsistent charade. whether or not it is a charade does not matter. the fact that it is a merry-go-round of a guy bragging about his five true loves, or was it three or four? does not matter. the fact that you have gone through and conquered - or at least whittled it down to one - so many women in a short time is an amazing feat. you are truly GODZ gift to women. If that were the case, you would not be spending so much time and dollerinos desperately searching for your gOddess in Ukraine. and that you feel the need to defend yourself is an indication of your low self-esteem. surely you brag and tell others how great your are - from way back. but truth is you are just a hunter who thinks he has bagged a trophy. and your need to pronounce it by claiming you are the king is another indication of you ineptitude. I certainly hope that all of the finalists are given runner up trophies and parting gifts. and certainly - just like on 'the bachelor' - they wish you well and good luck.
WHAT AN ASS YOU ARE! Did you tell the winner that she won out over all of the great models, 22 yr olds and doctors etc. ???? I'm sure she will be proud of that fact. "I settled for an average chick with a great personality because I realized I was not capable of keeping a model or someone with a higher education". You go boy.
Why do you attack me, I agree with you, that you're a great guy and you've got this FSU dating malarky cracked, this industry has been waiting some 22 years for a guy like you to come along and crack it and all these other forum members should be grovelling to learn from you ... Such members as beemer18 and Ralph29 are so far out of order they should hold their heads in shame!
But giss, remember that one's emotional state is transmitted in their writings on such a forum as this, me, I'm so happy in my personal life at the moment, a couple of business matters that have been pissing me off but I hope will be resolved this month whilst I endeavour not to bring such problems to this forum, but, you, claiming to have gorgeous women tripping over themselves for you, seem to be in a confrontational frame of mind, are you not a happy person giss or is this a jealousy thing you have against me that you, too, don't have a shortass dyslexic stalking you?
I can always list him on eBay if you'd like to bid for my shortass dyslexic stalker giss!
Giss: I have tried to understand what you want in your travels. If all you want is to meet many women and have your ego inflated you are doing fine. You are not in control of every aspect of your travels. Your bouncing from one woman to another and professing your love for them and there love for you is what is so amusing. You do not understand yourself and you cannot even come close to understand what is in the heart and desires of a woman, especially when you only know them for minutes. You do not have to write a big check to a woman for you to be taken. The agencies make their living on taxis, apartments, interpreters and the agency girls. The agency girls may get a small cut, but they also get the dates, gifts and tourist trips. It is what their business is is all about. The best that you can hope for is that while they get theirs, they also find you what you desire as well If all you desire is company and travel, then all parties get what they want. Whether you care to believe it, it is impossible for you to get what you profess to seek with consistency and time you invest with any one woman. You will see in the next few weeks, but you are shrewd enough to know this by offering a trip. I really hope that things work out for you, It will however require luck, good timing and patience. I am not that guy, but from outside, I don't see it .