yeah mate i adore my hunting,, cannot wait to take my kids into the mountains after i suppose deer.
its not a easy city person stroll is why i need my kids at a little decent age, they are close now.
dont know why but i like those areas, off the beaten track, camping and such.
an abo in Aussie said to me the pigs on the coast were rancid from the crap food in the mudflats, so they dont eat such.
was up near Darwin and came upon a pig competition near there, they were catching them alive then letting them go after(2oo lb weight boars and above),,, wicked stuff, mad Aussies:) actually i went up there to see if i could still shoot water buffalo, but no, the TB thing, they were basically kulled out because of it.
yeah Aussie is highest in the skin cancers, but they are mad sunbathers,, our sun here is worse but we are careful with it, you actually feel your arms burning in five minutes, never get that same feeling in Aussie so quickly.
strangely the Aussie sun tans fade real fast, ours dont,, so we know here to be very careful.
British people suffer badly here with our sun, they burn their scalps under their hair:)
in Ukraine i tried to get a suntan, it was up to 40 degrees and in a month i never got even a strap-line on my feet from wearing flip-flops jandels whatever, yet ukraines went a horrible black colour over there??
did look into hunting bear in far eastern Russia for a skin,"still might", not an easy adventure for the poorer person as me,, no one there bothers with permits, that was the problem, i needed it to get skin home, the guys that take Americans for it wanted over 10k the dreamers..
you know saying all that about Russia and Ukraine those girls there are very health conscious and know more about themselves then a typical western girl, they have to because of the place and their want for a child.
you wonder it they look for a foreigner just to get better health opportunity's, maybe you weren't rich enough for her problems? their hospitals are a nightmare in themselves.
as in my thing about pollution, its just a shame we have done this to ourselves, it reflects on our health, our hospital bills.
whats the latest thing now, carbon credits? what a scam, fine example they dont care of the bigger picture of whats already been done, tunnel vision at its best.
it amazes me how they(governments) suddenly create an idea of something thats worth moneys and able to sell it,,, blocks of oxygen making trees to be sold to another country? what????
yeah those subs, i wanted to jump onto them at low tide,, i thought they were old WW2 subs, just as well i asked or didnt steal a boat:)
You know kiwinorth, I live in Northern Rockies of British Columbia, the hunting hub of North America. I go Grizzly hunting, Gone for wild Bison, And all the standard animals of Canada. Have not gone for big horn sheep yet.I got a timber wolf wieghed 59kgs They tavel in packs. Gun wasn't loaded when I met these guys.I ran at them,they fled, by the time they realized I was dinner, and came back, gun was loaded.
If you ever make a trip to Canada, Will be happy to show you, a good hunting adventure.Wealthy Euorpeans will pay up to 45thousand$ for 2 week trip, and no garauntees. So consider yourself having a in to a great hunting adventure.
Thinking about OZ tan took six months before tan lines faded when I got back to Canada.55 degrees C in desert
was bloody hot. Most parts of what they call the bush had pesticide warning posted all over. Can't remember
whether they were trying to kill off foxes, or rabbits. All I know is poison was right through food chain. Was real mess.
I do know her heart problem is real, don't know reason. There was plenty of signs was ready to take her to hospital twice, Was not fun part of trip. Thought you might be onto something, about radiation and birth defects.
As far as money goes I have always been well taken care of, Can afford to by ex a house, me a house, and look for another, to quite possibly end up buying her a house, Was really hoping to find one that instead of buying her a house, we would end up getting bigger house.
There were a lot of strange things about trip there, and courtship. Everything was fine till Zaporozhye even my interpreter who I now consider a good friend. Had him wondering trying to figure out things. And he was raised in Ukraine.
I will save these other things for latter.
cheers steve, dont know if i would ever get up that ways, i know its beautiful and big from family traveling there, but hey who knows, even the thought of just watching them in the wild is a big puller for me, interesting.
funny thing, when i was in the far east of Russia(Sovetskaya Gavan and Khabarovsk region) straight opposite you actually a friend was up there somewhere near you on a big cattle station for the fun of it, she tried to get me to jump over using the bears as an excuse.
was terrible saying no to a stunning long legged Swiss-German girl and live bears for a beautiful Russian girl with frozen bear in her freezer:)
but hey when i decide on something i dont change the game, always stick to the plan.
if you carry on with this, try looking at Russia only, i seriously think its streets ahead of Ukraine.
the girls there i met really went out of their way for me, and spoke great english.
i cannot say that for the Ukraine's, but then again i didnt give the place a decent chance maybe, but for me things there are just to organized for westerners.
59kgs,, thats crazy, i was chasing a 65kg boar today with a knife and 30kg max weight dogs, just couldnt imagine that weight in a wolf, and more then one,,, what a blast,, awesome.
one would think they would need to eat a lot to hold such body weight? specially a roaming moving animal as such, thats crazy.
Kiwinorth yes keep it in mind, Must say somtimes,hunting is just a excuse to find a great spot up in mountain.
Sit back and watch a sunset, When you do hunt the big game one must be prepared to do a lot of work.
I do not think all agencys are bad in Ukraine. I was treated very well by some, Some of agencys a certain one in peticular, Seemed to run there's as a buisenes to rape and pillage westerners. The day I met Olga had my interpreter with me, This was not liked at all, new they couldn't take advantage of me. My interpreter is bonded by western companys, He works in Russia right now tells me I should visit. He stays pretty busy with companys investing money in Moscow. Yes was many strange things, Thought I was rescueing Olga from agency.
Was intersting, 2 week before she came. she sent a letter wanted to find a friend for a girl friend. I wrote back and asked if her best friend and god mother to her daughter needed boyfriend to. she said no has ukrainian boy in serious relationship. Was watching sites found, her best friend, was a very serious and active player on sites. on over 30 sites. This bothered me being it was Olgas very best friend. Feel bad for guy who is writing her, goes to visit her, she plays game, he looses and never knows why. I do not know right now about anything about that agency. I do know Olga did not count on me finding out about her health condition, and thought I would role over and play dead.
Life is to short to have people play games that damage others.
Maybe Russia is the ticket, I do know if one speeks english makes it so much easier to figure out if somthing will end up going south on you.
Was thinking you live by the ocean? if you like hunting know you love fishing. My house in OZ was 500 meters from Indian Ocean had some of best fishing there. Was with a Ozzy he was catching sea snakes I was catching sharks. He dropped one in my lap, needed help getting lure back, me I just about crapped my pants. I didn't think snakes would bother me till I went to Oz. Will take a bear on, any day of the week over a bloody snakes.
Just so you know I am not a total idiot, When I did have Olga seperated from agency, I had felt we klicked.
and everything was perfect. I did not want to meet anyone after her. Maybe I was just spun by letters sent back and forth, don't know.
I took a gamble on a Russian lady who at first did not understand a word of English. Best move I ever made. She still has a lot to learn but she is getting good grades in English comp and psychology - having to write many papers. Hard working and frugal. Even though I spend what I think is pocket money frivolously at times, I get an earful about it. Plus she loves venison and any fresh caught fish.
I second the notion that Russian women are a better bet for someone grounded and secure with no games. Of course there will always be the players. Just figure it out by doing your homework and you will be fine.
Ralph, it to me is a no brainer, going russian as you have always said.
it took very little time to see that.
most of the girls here in NZ are russians,, why is this??
New Zealand is a small population so things do stand out and are very noticeable, specially the foreign thing.
so is it only NZ that has higher numbers of russians then?
look at the net with this game,, there are more ukraine agencys then russian, these agencys are selling the idea of an abundance of single girls to foreigners.
its basically mostly ukraine.
then theres ukraine itself an easier place to get around in.
Why? because of the influx of westerners visiting the place.
for what reason? simply its girls.
so why dose my little country have more russian girls married to guys here then ukraines in simple english??
it should be the other way around because of how things a set in place yeah??
reality is some ukraines are not the most honest lot, their slappers are serious milkers so why people search in this mix of dishonesty beats me.
(to all the beautiful people of ukraine please excuse that word slapper, its for i hope a small selective type you and we all have)
the numbers here tell me all i need to know.
Ralph29 I think what you descibe is reason I went to Ukraine, I have seen many of these relationships here,
I hear some do not work. But the successful ones, I see a friendship like I have seen with no others. I swear
I have seen some of these relationships and one can feel the energy walking into the room. That to me is a great friendship, is the one I crave for.
Most people in Ukraine treated me very well. Had very little problem with Western tax,couple of times maybe
Traveled across country in taxi. Most people when they found I was from Canada, treated me great,made sure to let me feel welcome in thier country.
Yes I encountered problems, is more homework to do. Can't say I am not aware there are players everywhere.
It is interesting what you say about Russia vs. Ukraine kiwinorth, It does seem to make lots of sence I think every town in Ukraine. Had many marriage agencys on streets. only signs one would see in english. I did find some good, Truth at time did not know the bad till it was staring me in the face. Is like Ralph says gotta due homework, not sure what tools are for this, school of hard knocks, kind of sucks. Know from reading on some of these sites, and from personal expierance now. Ukrainian girls are pretty daring when they have steered you into shoping mall. Met one she tried on a dress, modeled it. thought I would buy it for her 750US $. She thought I went to toilet, I left, Onward and upward. Thought I was smart when meeting lady I most wanted to meet, They had just switched tactics. With many secrets to hide. Will tell you of story of first meeting. Not tonight, was long day. And Don't want to share right now how dumb I can be some times
kiwinorth spent a lot of time thinking about this forum, this weekend. Thinking about Xmas and my sister. And all things important, in ones life. I think your last note pretty much sums up Ukraine and marraige agencys, and the attitude they present. I was angry when I first started this forum. However I have read many interesting things and most importantly, This forum has given me a chance to listen and think. On weekend I thought to myself I would give Olga a chance to defend herself, She declined the offer,I offered a interpretor so she could offer up her reasons. The 1000$ is not what made me angry, it was the deception and the mystery of why she would do this, that upset me. Her heart problem and all other things that shut this relation down. I am probably better off. Next trip is Russia. ( Ha maybe you and I can go shoot a Russian bear). I also phoned her friend Anna Gaidash. She is not happy because I imformed agency about her serious relationship she has going, while she plays the dating sites. I ask for what purpose would she do this? her answer was, what makes me god? I am not god but my father raised me to know a weed by any other name is still a weed. I think about the man who takes a shine to her and her letters, The man ready to spend 10 grand to go visit his true love. I think about his disapointment when relationship ends, and he does not know why. I am going to put both these women on scam sites as a warning to others I doubt it will do much. Hopefully it will smarten one up. I see right now scam lists are growing fast, A person thinks a woman asks for money, and on she goes. I think men are starting to get annoyed at this attitude of the women in these agencys. I hope someday these woman will realize when a man offers his heart to her on 100% faith, she has something special and good in this world. I am sure there are good ones. Me I am yet to meet one. I have a few more things to add but not tonight. Hopfully soon we can change this to a hunting anf fishing forum.
we have high thyroid problems here in NZ, its not radiation,, we just dont have iodine in our soil.
one thing i remember and never forget about that disaster(Chernobyl) was that film work of those guys on the roof in those pretend anti-radiation suits shoveling rubble into the reactor hole.
with that death sentence they shoveled rubble from a far, then walked over crap to the hole,,,, why they just didnt start next to the hole? was it human instinct of trying to stay away from it or the result of some stupid officer,,,,, yes the result was the same in the end but just odd and chilling to watch.
yeah steve, fishing is a biggy, had posted to this but seems it had got lost or i posted it in another thread(me not thinking)
yes do your search in russia, leave ukraine to its milking:) actually i like ukraine but not for any girl stuff, have been back there since and it certainly wasn't for the girls.
those scam sites you speak of i have never used, i found one wises up enough in this search not to need them, google is not bad.
they all have telling signs,, but really if they cannot do stuff for you, as in make a decent effort to help you then they aren't worth the effort.
i think people have been getting annoyed with those agencys for a long time, but the new meat thing keeps them alive, a lot of ukraines laugh at westerners visiting them, they think we are nuts.
i have met some cool girls in russia, the girl i have now could have been easily other russian girls i have met.
strangely the horrible part of this game is saying no to someone who is really astonishing.
hunting:) we are a dying breed steve,, city people and greenys are becoming the voice of everything these days, one lot is more or less government controlled the other is in some dream of perfection with their eyeballs full of carrot juice.
lonelyranger1701 your links are a eye opener, I am a babe in the woods. I did not know I have been to many places. I guess ignorance is bliss. Our rivers and streams and lakes are pristeen clean, our wildlife abundant. I think back to when I was a child. CCCP and US would make Canada its battle ground for missles. When our parents conversation with friends was about bomb shelters in back yard. What good would have done.
kiwinorth is right we are mental. And in 10 20 years what about Japan. I hope we all learn, so we move forward. Would seem there are many lessons to be learned from mistakes in the past
fish story's, had makos jumping into my boat, to no effort fishing of 20kg kingfish laying at my feet on the rocks from chasing bait fish in as i stood there after small swells had dropped.
biggest hook up i know of was a guy who had a killer whale on his marlin setup,, it stripped his reel of coarse, it actually was wanting his tuna he was pulling in.
what stands out and guts me is the 275,000 logged catches of marlin on commercial long lines a few miles off my coast every year until bugger-all now, this started back in the early 70's by our over seas competitors, add that to the extreme amounts of unlogged catches(it became logged, government wanted to know wants been caught) what greedy bastards.
moral of the story is our politicians are closely related to our Russian friends more so then we think with their unscrupulous backhanders to even allow this.
today we can still catch them but it was something once for many to hooking up from the beach or in a silly 10 foot row boat which was normal, and that wasnt that many years ago.
the russian girl is due in a few days so its fishing for a few weeks, she has become quite the fisher-girl for our snapper.
Sounds like fun must try a New Zealand trip. Oz was fun where I was didn't need lic could fish with whatever you wanted. Learned how to use casting net there, showed game warden here in Canada told me he catches me 100 meters within water with that thing is off to jail. Was quite funny, guess differant strokes for differant folks. Yes we have lots of rules here to about our waters and are land to. Made by people with half baked ideas.
Moto is after barn burns down, then we let the cattle out. I think what we need is one person with common sence. Was reading some of your other entrys in some other forums, kiwinorth you are not a big fan of Ukraine, should have read your stuff before going, anyway better late then never, I think Russia next, have a friend in Moscow he said will show me around. First Xmas not looking forward to this one, will spend it with my sister. This is been a 3 year battle for her, Still don't know what to say, want to believe in fairy tales.
Is very hard to talk about she is younger then me cancer is normal to a 75 to 80 year old doctors haven't a clue what happened. They stopped kimo in August was doing no good. However I keep telling myself New Year is around the corner. New hopes new dreams. And maybe for me new adventures, a little smarter a little wiser a new limp. But we must look forward always forward
I have lived in all parts of Canada. was born in Toronto lived mostly northern Ontario. Fork lake sounds like a place I should know. narrow it down maybe. Have been to some lakes man has
barly touched. Is cool trip on quads or snowmachines. Some of these lakes are so good you get mad if you haven't caught anything by third cast.
Steve,,, I’m not too sure myself where it is,,, it’s been almost 40 years ago! We always wanted to go to The Great Slave Lake,, and Bear Lake. I think they have roads to both now??
I have relation in Edmonton, Calgary, and LeDuc, Alberta! I’ve been on the Al-Can highway too!
I know all about the “Bush”!! Between my Father and myself and our small hunting group, we have brought back 48 moose!! Mostly in Ontario,,, MNR hunting zones 19 and 21A,,, Beardmore, Ont!
My Father hunted in BC,, at some place called; The Rocky Mountain House??
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