If Ensata and Lucy have that particular understanding of the principles of relationships it is already a huge advantage for both of them...regardless of the stage their relationship maybe today.
All we can do is wishing them luck and that they can it put to work in real life conditions just as easily as they can in concept
ID have not met yet, true. Have talked 1 to three times daily on the phone for 3 months, and written a lot - so we are learning about each other and have a good conversational understanding, and heart felt emotion (with a dollop of raging hormones). Having worked with people of every sort for 25 years, have a decent working knowledge of human nature. Iv'e absorbed like a sponge all the advice and experience of others here and other places. But obviously we will not 'know' each other until we spend time together. But what the hell, we have a great beginning, and I will give it my all. It is a huge sacrifice (not speaking in money terms here) and a definate calculated risk for me to making my trip to visit Lucy. But if it works out it will be worth every thing I've put into it.
I just wanted to know so I can understand where you are at. You talk as if you have meet her that is all. If you choose to give you self so much at this stage, that is up to you and I wish you all the best. I will meet with a girl in August, we have had a few misunderstandings but have easily overcome them. If she is what I hope she is, all will be well but I waite untill our meeting to know for sure. what you do is again, up to you. Best of luck.
Yes toad, I did mis that as I tend not to read to much rubbish if I can help it. I myself reject all religions but not nesseccararly god, if that makes sence as I know to some it is not possible. I have many thoughts on this topic although non that will help me or anyone else with FSU women I am sure.
I certaintly don't mean to give the impression that I have met Lucy. And I have been careful to frequently quality my thoughts and affections towards her by stating that only in person will I truly know her, and then we will know what future we may have together. Who knows I amy meet her and hate her - she may hate me upon meeting me.
But I realize that a 10 day visit by itself is not enough time to cover all the ground in order to make a wise decesion about our future. So we are trying to cover as much ground as we can ahead of time trying to be as practical and rational as possible. We discuss everything. And yes we are allowing our affections for each other to grow along with our understanding of each other.
It it does not work out it will not be for lack of effort and kindness. And it is amazing that during 4 + months of communication we have never had even a slight disagreement. (Occasionaly we have shared dissapointments and concerns though).
Besides if it fails, it will not be as traumatic as when the x-swine took up with another man and left me with five kids. (I am glad she left the kids).
ensata the fact that you and Lucy didn't have any disagreements is a very good thing:) Maybe you 2 are a real man and a real woman??:)
Of course a short time visit will not give you the whole understand of the person who stands in front of you, but it will help at least put the person to the words, pictures, and phone talks...at least I think so:) So I hope your trip and staying with Lucy will lead to a happy future:)
Sancho, even I can't tell you what girls from FSU think a real man should be. I have my own understanding of this term, and it is not shared by my friends, though we still are friends. And a lot of girls have problems when expressing their views on this topic...so there is not much knowledge to share actually...unfortunately.
I better go lock up my firearms, I hate to agree with Pancho Villa here, but he hit out of the ballpark. I'm afraid now, for agreeing with him I might put a gun in my mouth and pull the trigger. Well a blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while.
If you go alone to a swingers party you show that you're incapable of atracting or keeping a woman on your own merits and must therefore, lower yourself to freeload on the crumbs thrown to you by those willing to share their own woman to satisfy their morbid sexual kinks.
A tough old-time Indian fighter came staggering back into camp with seven Shoshoni arrows piercing his chest and legs. A doctor examined him and remarked:
"Amazing stamina. Don't they hurt?"
The old-timer grunted, "Only when I laugh."
Sancho Shoshoni? What is that an Italian Titty bar???
Well Mr. World history and Crimean War expert, here is a little tidbit for you. If you plan on telling jokes about Native Americans and old Indian fighters have the common decency and respect to learn how to spell the tribes name correctly. It's Shashone you moron!!!