Government run institutions usually have bad customer service here in the US. When you don't follow their rules to the letter, they have a "Well, too bad." attitude instead of helping you rectify the situation. The Department of Motor Vehicles is one example.
DMV....Well, when you do not give an employee any incentive to go above and beyond their exacting job description, time frames to complete their tasks, and threaten their jobs for straying off the beaten path you can somewhat justify the poor customer service that you would get at a government run establishment. They are just trained monkeys.
In private industry, that's a whole different beast. Either you do not care about repeat business or your have so much repeat business that you do not need to offer outstanding customer service because your product is in such high demand.
jamie, you said
Why would any man want to 'keep up appearances'
what are you talking about? i said work on your first impression if you need to. How does that translate into 'keep up appearances'?
btw, 'just be yourself' advice only works if your interesting and charismatic. most men are not. most men don't have a clue how to talk to women. ukrainian women want to see the interest in your eyes. they want to see that your both serious and excited to be with them. If your the laid back type that is common with suburban america, i feel that can be misconstrued as indifference in other countries. but would be perfectly fine in your home country.
Hey jamie.....how many fsu women have you met??? If only 1, you just picked a bad one. One that I knew from a couple months of writing wasn't sincere or serious. Hopefully you can move on and if you choose to do this again make a better choice with a lot more knowledge. You had zero control on your trip, one thing I would tell someone to avoid at all costs.
I have to agree with gecko that a guys charisma means alot, I think the girls like a guy that has confidence and take charge and at same time be a gentleman. I don't have to get a thank you or a smile for being coordial as long as I feel good about myself for doing nice things for others.....of course to a point. I always open doors for girls, keep it open for guys, help my date into and out of cars, pull out her chair and help her put on coat............all these things I don't even think about...just do it.
I agree with what you say about that one wasn't sincere..
But, I met a few FSU women..Some with agency and some without agency..
What i mean by no agency is, they were independent English speaking guides..These people i found don't tell lies to you and treat a foreign man ( tourist) very well..In fact, i had a better time AWAY from the agency people...When i was with the independent English speaking guides if you asked them a question, they didn't look at you for a moment before answering it, OR what i found out with www.a slavgirl.com was, they would ask, why you ask that question in the first place?...
Beemer, when i was in the agency, they kept you away from the computers..They definately did not want any outside person watching the girls behind the computers......You had to go to a room and wait for someone..The people looked at you differently..That is what it seemed to me, anyway...
I had a great time walking about Nikolaev, Odessa, Sevastopol, Uman, Simferopol and the people that i spoke to were okay..I didn't have to show any charismatic skills or make myself to be an important person....If people cannot judge you by the contents of your character, then why try to be someone else?????
To me, for a man to 'keep up appearances' and 'work on first impressions' are the same thing..
There was an American show on TV a couple of years ago, that had a guy on it who was a bulldozer operator..A fit, thin, good looking man, about early 30's..The TV producers made out that he was about to inherit his fathers multi-million dollar business, but, before this happens, he must find himself a lady ..Well, you should have seen the little princess's that offered themselves 'services's rendered' to the 'would be' millionaire...And as the guy said to the camera man, if the women found out he operated a bulldozer NONE of them would be here...And he was correct..This guy was a fit, good looking man. I found it strange that he didn't have a girlfriend...
I read in the local Australian papers last week, that a women named Khrisy Heinze ( or something like that) a model, has just married a billionaire 38 years older then herself..If he didn't have money, he would need more then 'first impressions' or to be charismatic..
I don't have trouble with talking to people about anything, but you can only be yourself at the end of the day..
Beemer,If the woman that we just mentioned about, wasn't interested, i would have thought ( going by what is written and said about them) that FSU women would speak their minds and not play games with a guy who has travelled so far..I don't know, maybe I'm wrong??????????
What i also find is, when people try to be something they are not, it stands out..It's only a matter of time before they make a mistake and you find, they are just the same as everybody you meet, everyday....
I hope the administrators allow this letter to go through instead of blocking my letter like they did to the local forum 'wizard.com'
What an ignorant troll. Absolutely the most ignorant individual to ever post on this forum. I bet you blew snot in her can and she laughed. I would say she would have slapped the stupid off your face, but that would take multiple blows and she would tire out first.
You're the biggest fraud and asswipe ever to post on any forum. I heard through the grapevine that Irina never smiles in your supposed pictures. I wonder why? Come to think of it she wasn't smiling in the pictures Mike00 sent to me. Talk about someone having to grit their teeth daily. I feel sorry for her being with such an ignorant mule.
I'm surprised that the administrators allowed that language and sentence, because i placed some very well written and constructive words for the forum wizard.com and it was blocked to my surprise...I think Olga likes martin..I don't..
Having to place the stupid 'code' in everytime is a pain in the ar#e....
You write; "does anybody else notice that people who live in foreign countries always look down on tourists? why can't they just give advice without acting like they are better than everybody. i think someone who couldn't find happiness living in his own country should think twice before putting other people down"
A couple of things; I do not live in Ukraine because I cannot 'find happiness in my own country'...its just how my business and life have developed....thats all....
And I may have written my thing a little 'harsh', however, it is all good advices. If you analyse what I say, you can extract the following;
1) show respect
2) be polite
3) treat the girls like ladies
About agencies and scammers. I have no experence with agencies whatsoever. But know girls how act through them. And they are generally very good girls, only looking for happiness.
But, I also know a couple of girls that have been 'bad girls' and have done what they could to make money on the foreigners comming here. I sat one night at a table where these things was discussed, and it turned out to be a very humorous night. I cannot believe that some of the guys comming here can be that naive
BUT; at the end of the day, to stereotype is always dangerous. There are good girls in this game, and there are great guys there too
i might have met you. I was sitting by myself one night last summer at a cafe on the main street across from mcdonalds. i joined two foriegners. one a verbose australian, and the other, well, i'm not sure where he was from, but his girlfriend was with him. apparently he lived there with his girlfriend. maybe one of these guys was you? how many foreigners do you think are actually living in nikolaev?
Yes Ukraine and USA are definitely at the opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to customer service
For your information; I lived in Us for some years...I go from there to Ukraine...not because of service (obviously better in US that in Ukraine....but...)...servie in US?????....try Europe...among 'western countries'.....being a foreigner in US is not a advantage at all (even though 55% of US citizence are foreigners is 2-3 generation....)
Please....stop complaining....its getting much better here.....and its very divercified
Geco...maybe we have met....I guess there are 100 foreigners here....if you take away russians, turkies, and other 'close nations'....well maybe....20...but very dependent on what projects the shipyards here have...from time to time....we have been 4-5 only (appart from the R's and the T's)
we have a great place here and lots of friends....feel welcome
Actually....after living here for years...I have met a great lady who I will marry soon....I am a very happy man (fyi; Idid not meet her through an agency....LOL)
thats great news about your marriage. you teach english there right? or are you pleasantly retired?
i was living in kherson a couple of years ago. I noticed their was a couple of other americans their as well. One was always wearing a backpack full of photo equipment. when he would see an attractive girl he would pull out his camera and ask if it would be allright to take some photos. i'm not sure if that approached, but i guess even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually
You used an agency. Duh or as Homer Simpson would say "dop"
When you pay money to start it is a scam.
I am here in Odessa for 3 months. I have a friend who um gave me his flat I just pay bills. water electric.
So like in america you go out to bars, here they are disco or clubs. You are marked when you walk in.
so go buy some nice clothes and shoes, black. fit in. Buy a girl you like a drink. Dance with her.
If your not handsome buy her more drinks and you will become very good looking.
Monday and Tuesday are slow ,,,but if you go outside of town to places they are hopping with babes.
I bang one a day. Simple, dress nice, smell nice, be nice. Do not get drunk. Sip your drink.
Ignore the hottest chicks and do not look at them, then get up and walk strait over to her and say tancy.
I'm 50 and bag at least one chick a day. Disco is fun. But I grab more at McDonalds than disco.
If you have not used your dick in a while go get a 50 dollar whore and she will get you in gear.
I am not saying who it is or who it is not. LR just had a similar post. It was not crude and he has not been crude in a sexual way. I do know someone who pops in from time to time, is that crude and uses the word "panties" from time to time.