Olga,
I sent a first letter to a lady a few days ago and I'm wondering how long I should expect to wait for a reply. I believe your site recommends 2-5 days, but what do you think is reasonable, based on your experience?
Thanks,
Gary
My response rate with the girls on this site have been terrible, one letter was delivered a week after I sent it, but it didn't matter because no response. I think the girl can at least show a little respect, and drop you a line just to say she isn't interested, it's totally free to her. I ve been using a site called www.freepersonals.ru and my response rate is very good, but the best part is that this site is free and there are many girls listed on site, but the best part is that you're not out $15 a letter if a girl choses not to respond.
Yep thats a real problem. We have a constant fight with girls and the agencies about sending decline messages in case they are not interested but they dont do it.We process and send the message in 24 hours after the customers submit it. The difficulties start after that-the agencies deliver the messages to their girls and sometimes they have a hard time finding those. Its hard to beleive, but many of the ladies that place their ads in catalogue and say that they are interested in finding a husband, dont care to pick up their messages for weeks..(of course not all of them...some). Sometimes when you see status In progress on the site, it just means that there are no confirmations fron the agency that the message was given for a girl...we process your messages here in no time. We try to do it as quick as possible, though sometimes there can be delays during the holidays.
And I always say, that If you dont get a respons from a girl in a week-she is not interested. In 90% cases its really so, in 10% she just didnt get it in time.
As soon as we get a reply for your message, it will be added to your account on the site and you'll get a notification, that a letter is waiting for you.Then you just follow the link and read your e-mail.
Gary asked a legitmate question, there was no need for Gary to be hassled in any manner, please delete the post that has nothing to do with this thread and advise that red character that this fourm is for adults. thanks
paul, SLC, Ut
Timmy, maybe it was a legitmate (spelled legitimate) question and I stand corrected. However, the key is you will get notification as in any email system. At least I did not resort to name calling as you did. As for adults, most adults know and understand this. Also, this fourm (spelled in big red letters above forum) is made and maintained by Dating-ru. However, you seem to use it to advertise another site (www.freepersonals.ru) that has a very poor forum and a very poor search routine. They also offer you to search out their scammers for them (no wounder they are free). It also handels a very limited amount of clients. You disrespect this site and try to divert its clients, then you ask Olga to intervine on your behalf.. hmmmm Well you get what you pay for. If you like free, then why are you at a site and participating in a forum that people pay for and obviously you do not or prefer not to. I feel that Dating-ru is a legitimate site and very well maintained and also the cost goes into your protection. But you want free (something for nothing). You want to visit another site and use their system and not pay. Then you want to use the better forum (supported and maintained by dating-ru), plus you want to ask for Olga who is paid by the patronage of the coustomers, to support you and your requests to delete comments you dont like.. hmmmmmmm .... To all, I support this site and recommend many people to it. I still feel that Dating-ru is the best site out here. They look out for the safety and integrity of their clients. Yes the service will cost you money. They have to put food on their tables and maintain the site and forum you seem to like. But thanks for the adult name calling. Good luck to all !!!
I know I made comments on your spelling errors Timmy, I know I made some to, However you got me on a roll..lol We all make mistakes. But lets try to be adults about it. Let Olga do her job and respect the site that gives you this forum to voice. Good luck to all. This is a costly adventure but this is not the place to cut the corners.
Guys,
It is called online dating, i.e. DATING. If a woman is not impressed by a letter or a picture or has other options more appealing to her (and the most attractive/interesting Russian girls, to whom we all tend to send letters, do have many options), then she chooses not to reply just like in real life situations. I think it's better not to get a reply, assume that the girl is not interested and move on rather than getting one of those bounce back letters that only result in waste of money and time for male customers.
I have to agree that dating-ru is one of the well-managed sites. They even have an 800 number in the U.S. that links you to an English speaking customer rep located in Russia 24 hours a day. I found the latter useful especially during the first weeks I was using this dating service. I am not aware of any other dating site with the same level of customer service. As a comparison, AFA (A Foreign Affair) was the first site that I started off with at the end of July (presumably the leading site out there with the largest database of girls – but no reference to how many of these girls are available...). They offer customers the option to buy girls' addresses and send letters through regular mail. I purchased what they call Platinum membership, which allows unlimited access to women's addresses for a month (cost=$90 and then $20 to renew each month). I called one of the owners of AFA at the number featured at their site and left a voice mail. I called again and left second and third messages and also sent a couple emails. Didn't hear back for more than a month. Then I canceled my membership and sent them an email to complain. I got a voice mail from the guy one and a half months after my initial call! I got the impression that all they were trying to do was to push their “love tour” services (you know the ones where they invite any girl from the street…) and because my inquiries were related to correspondence rather than "love touring", I wasn’t getting a response. Compare this to 24-hour toll-free instant live response. So, let's be reasonable and not beat the guys who are trying to do a good job. Arguably the service could be better, but in the current environment service is acceptable and the owners are indeed trying their best. Situations when girls don't reply can be managed on a case by case basis. I also had an incident when I didn't receive a reply for more than a month and called the 800 number. The girl finally responded and apologized for the late reply. She wrote that she was in another city and could not check her email, but was very interested to start correspondence. At that time, I had already developed strong interest in the girl who is currently my fiancee, so I didn't reply (men also choose not to reply!). My fiancee herself replied to my first letter in twelve days. Another girl replied in three days, but we stopped correspondence after a few letters. Relationships to the largest extent are a matter of luck and chemistry. All of us American consumers are used to instant gratification for all of our purchases. Let's understand that we are not buying milk in the grocery store, we are trying to attract women here. Like Olga said if a girl doesn't reply, we have options to choose: place a request in the forum, email to their customer service, call the 800 number, wait while corresponding with other girls or forget about her altogether. Also, I never used a free site and had no idea legit free dating sites exist, but I would be very cautious. I used AbsoluteAgency and Match.Com for a small monthly fee in the past and ended up 90%+ of the time with bounce back letters sent by scammers (anyone can easily post an ad on these sites). I would argue that most of the real good-looking girls on AbsoluteAgency are not for real.
Gary asked a legitimate question, he didnt know the process of receiving letters, and he was addressing Olga; not you. There was no need for you to responded with a such childish, smart ass answer. And dont ever lecture me re: anything about this site, I ve patronized this agency; off and on, since Febuary of 99. Olga knows me very well, over the years I ve had a great deal of communication with her, and I ve spent alot of money for services provided by this agency. I mentioned www.freepersonals.ru because I had success with girls responding to my letters, are there rules against posting other web sites on this forum, I dont think so.
Olga, I m asking you again to delete that post made by that red charater, because it's childish, mean spirited and has nothing to do with this thread.
I guess we all need a bit more tolerance for each others mistakes. I dont mind answering any questions here, because I beleive that if somebosy asks about something, he really need this information.In fact this forum was supposed to help our customers learn about the experience of each other...So I ask all of our visitors again: Lets respect each other and dont make comments that will be considered mean spirited, offencive or offtopic.
As for this definite thread, I think you've all beat this subject to death, lets move forward. Please ;-))))
Timmy lookup the word Forum please. The process of RECEIVING letters! Okay. Well seems your feelings are hurt and your so serious.
By the way charater? whets that? Ohhh you mean (character) Timmy I apologized once to you and it seems it was over your head, But I have to agree with wtarv02.. Your not the only one who knows Olga, but lets leave her out of this. She is not here to take orders from you on how to run this Forum.. My comment was not directed at you and you seem to think you have some judicial authority over judging its content. Maybe you’re the Forum Police advertising for other sites that are not as safe and as legitimate as this one. If you like the other site then go for it. But lets not cut down this on because you had a string of bad luck since WOW 1999!!! ??? Maybe the problem is not the site... But lets Let bygones be bygones and move on. If I insulted you or you pride then Sorry.. And If I insulted Gary and he needs you to stand up for him then Sorry.. And I would not attack you with name-calling like you did to me. I just stated Facts. 1) Reply’s are self explanatory in them selves. 2) Lets not use this forum to direct people astray to other sites while discrediting the very site that gives you this Forum in your own words "My response rate with the girls on this site have been terrible" Good luck to Gary and To you Timmy. My response rate has been fine to the point that would surprise you. ;-) And I traveled to Russia many times already and I can honestly say that Its Going to Cost you money, lots of it to find the Russian woman of your dream. I found mine and so have some of my friends. But in the end it will pay off. However, be safe about it as stated by wtravo2 stated "I would be very cautious" of these other sites and even more so at referring other people to them. If you have a problem in this site the fine staff and yes Olga will work with you to clear it up. Let’s contribute to helping them fix your concerns and issues, to help the staff fine tune the site and keeping it the best. If you have trouble work with the staff here. They are more than willing to do it right for you. Again good luck to all!!
lol I agree Olga lets move forward.
Olga - If a girl never replies to a first letter, do you want us to let you know? Maybe she's not available anymore? Or, should we just forget about her and move on to the next one.
This question is for Olga only, so if anyone else is thinking it might be for them, well it's not.
If the girl never replies to a first message, it can be dye to some reasons:
-she is not interested
-she didnt received it
-the agency didnt contacted her and gave her this message
As for the agencies. Each week pir agencies get reminder with a list of messages that were not answered by the girls.And if there is still no responsem we remind about it weekly. So agencies inform us if it is a decline or if she is not available.
The problems begin when she is not from the agency. She doesnt respond and we cant find out whats going on. Since it is a free message we will not hire a courieer to deliver this message to her and hand it to her in person...Usually girls inform us if they want to be deleted from catalogue, but sometimes they just dont answer the messages.So if you didnt ger a response in a week( two weeks in maximum) them just forget about it and write to another girl. If girls are interested, they dont disappear and always check their mail in time.
Also curious: why you address customer service questions in a public web forum suggesting that none else other than the moderator should bother about the discussion item that you posted. Then you are trying to engage in a personal discussion with the moderator ...
You can send emails to Olga directly to inquire about the service and other things of personal nature if you don't mean to post these questions as discussion items. This is supposed to be an open discussion forum, exchange of ideas, experiences for the benefit of all members, it's not a personal web site and it's not a customer service site. Also, when you post an item on a public web site, it is self explanatory that you accept to be subject to comments and even criticism (hopefully constructive and not harassing) by other members.
wtrav02 Thankyou.... Your correct on all your comments.
gary496 I am sure Olga will be happy to address your customer service questions properly. Please treat her with the respect she deserves. I am sure that she has her own boyfriend or husband, Lets respect that and keep our search in its proper perspective. I am sure she gets hit on buy guys like you all the time. I am also sure you will not find her photo in the gallery. So please Give her the respect she deserves. To learn how it works read the information in the forum.