I just thought that I would write a watning to anyone that has any dealings with Ukrainian Women.com, who work from Kerch in the Crimea, and say that they are definitely one to avoid. I met one woman on Cherry Blossoms and she gave me an e-mail address that was based in Kerch. Anyway, to cut a long story short, I ended-up travelling to Kerch and once the apartment was paid for (and the agency fee) I never saw the woman again. In fact, I only spend several hours with her on the first day (obviusly before the fee was paid) and she just left me abandoned in a grubby little apartment, all on my own, with no company and no-one to talk to for nealy two weeks!
The apartmnet was reasonably clean inside, but the location of the place was an absoulte dump, with grafitti and rubbish (and from the smell of the place I shudder to think) in the foyer and the stairs.
Even the drive from the airport and back was a nightmare, as they supplied a manic driver who drove at 125 kph in the pitch dark and the only words he ever spoke were "200 hryvna tip for me" (I should have stabbed him in the neck for nearly killing me...we nearly crashed 3 times)
It really was a disappointing and dreadful experience, and I wouldn't wish it on a dog.
Hope this helps anyone who is tempted by these rouges. If you want pictures of the awful apartmnet that they will dump you in, then I'll be happy to suppply them.
I am insulted zeeco...I'm a twerp now?????
This is another reason I do not go to see ONE women on a trip, especially for 2 weeks. That is a long time. I do not have any agency book anything for me. I book entire trip on my own and only have girls contacts. I try to see only one girl for a week but usually ends up I call other girls and line up meetings. I don't try to meet girls cold off street because they normally are not interested in you other than you being unusual. You don't speak their language and who knows if they are looking for a guy and definately will not leave country. At least on dating sites there MAY be a chance she might leave and she MIGHT be interested in foreign men.
Sorry about your trip, James, if there is another read as much as you can in this forum and try to be as informed as possible to mitigate the minefields.
beemer, don't be insulted, as i said on another thread, there will always be exceptions, however if read all the stories of woe, Ukraine is mentioned in nearly all of them.
Dating is far from an exact science, however there ways to get the laws of average to work in your favour, and one of these ways would seem to be, bypassing the Ukraine and all is's disappointments.
also I am using my own observations, both my friend and myself found our partners in Russia, within a year, because we bypassed looking for A Ukrainian girl.
If you have found a way of meeting the love of your life from the Ukraine, please share it with us.
Twats will never find a woman in Ukraine, it takes a real man with common sense. There's where the failure lies. They can find all the goofballs they want in Ukraine and from the West, that's probably why there's so many failures. The women are smarter and a lot more picky.
Thank you Zeeco.....( as I wipe my brow). Now I am an exception to the rule!!! You know I wonder about those stories. How many of them do you put on guys weak mentality????? I have yet to meet a girl that
ever FORCED me to do anything!!!!! If I am dumb enough to send or spend on a girl hoping she will be mine, it is 100% my choice. I will never blame girl for something I chose to do..I will blame myself!
And I have done plenty of dumb things!!! Live and learn
Beemer, I can't believe you live in California!LOL You understand personal responsibility! Unfortunately many searching the FSU don't understand that too much.
Finding a good and decent woman in Ukraine is not difficult. Unless you have unreal expectations. Many guys that come here and cry about their failures in Ukraine, I bet most of them had unreal expectations.
Zeeco your opinion like mine is what we perceive. My opinion of Russian women are they are cold, calculating, looking for money only. This is from communicating with many Russian ladies. The problem with that is, that is my perception only, maybe it's the truth, or just my opinion. Of all the scammers that had written to me in the past 90% of them were either from Kazan, Madagan, Rostov. I had only one from Ukraine. Now does this mean all the scammers are really from Russia. Of course not.
Get away from Kiev and Odessa and you can find some outstanding Ukrainian women. Venture out a little and see the country you will be surprised in what you see.
I am the director of this very agency, which you are talking about. After I have read the article, I tried to understand who could be this James and why he wanted to defile our good name. I can offer many people who used our service to tell you how we take care of our clients.
So the first accusation is that we took fee but there was no meeting with a girl. It is not truth. If we take fee, so the meeting is either successful or we propose the client to organize the meeting with other women. It is very important for us to render the service for which we take money. James, please, write me to address firstname.lastname@example.org and tell me who you are indeed. We will try to solve the problem with our fee.
As for the apartment. Even if the apartment is ordered for two weeks, the client can leave it when he considers this necessary. The payment for the apartment is taken only for the days when he stays in it. The apartment, which we offer are situated in the good districts of our town and it, is clean there. Unfortunately, the streets are not clean enough but this is the fault of our country but not of the agency.
Concerning the driver who was driving on a high speed and who has taken the tips of 200 grivnas, this is the question, which we will be investigating. I need the name and description of this driver. If it is truth, we won’t hire this driver any more.
I hope to get an answer.
You are referring to cherry blossoms. I have written to 5 ladies from that agency in 2005 and 3 of the ladies photographs were copied from some swimwear catalogue and modelling catalogue and were listed on 2 anti scam sites.
The ladies profiles really do need to checked out more thoroughly by the staff at cherry blossoms.fortunately i could see through the veil of lies that the other ladies were feeding me in their letters and did not travel to russia and ukraine. The poor scots guy above here has been cruelly deceived.
from whats been read James got his meeting of seven hours.
was he wanting 2 weeks of meeting from someone who did not like him, possible.
i think you made this problem James, "sorry mate" bad move going and doing for one reason, one lady.
at least have some back up plan.
never would i do something without back up plans.
Galina you did what was paid for.
did your agency line him up to make more dollars, that's also possible.
let it be free and see if it comes back.
we will never know.
Galina you are not there to baby-sit people.
wouldn't it be good for your business to keep in touch with such people, provide more options? kind of baby-sit. (some people need it)
would be good business practise wouldn't it?
i guess this could be turned around to take advantage of such people in the not so good way.
but we are all our own makers of today tomorrow and should be able to decide for ourselves to take it or not.
you provide, we make our own decision if its wanted.
Scotsguy complained of graffiti and rubbish in the public areas of the apartment block, perhaps this was SG's first time in Ukraine but I'm trying to recall ever seeing an apartment block there that didn't have graffiti .... and rubbish is quite commonplace also.
With regards to the woman not showing up again after the first date, it should not be forgotten that this was a 'blind date', the two of them hadn't met before and perhaps he didn't click for her, come on, we've all legged it at one time or another.
Not making excuses for an agency I've never heard of but just pointing out that except for a dodgy car driver there might be a perfectly reasonable explanation, certainly graffiti and rubbish is nothing to complain about, it's Ukraine.
I didn`t remember James-Scotsguy,I always care about my client and
they never stay alone they didn`t match one another. I have no idea what graffiti you talking about, because our apartments are in clean porches.I ask for James to write me.
As for the blossoms,we put the ads of our ladies there, but there are only few of women from our agency. I cannot be responsible for all ladies from this site. I am responsible only for our ladies.
Those people who have already been to Ukraine know that speed 120km per hour is allowed in our roads. That`s why we hire experienced driver. If you have some doubts of our honesty we can give you e-mails of our couples which have already got married and you will ask them about us.
Well it seems that once again Western men have become victims to exploitation, and a money-making scheme.
With regard to what ‘ScotsGuy’ wrote, I feel that there must be a certain amount of sympathy for the predicament that he found himself in. Certainly for me, I would be extremely hurt and dejected if I flew thousands of miles across the Atlantic, only to spend the time alone, in a ‘grubby little apartment’ (and if I am reading his text correctly, he states that the rubbish and the general filthy state of the place was inside the building and not outside….so this apartment is not the cosy little pad in a nice area that we are led to believe, and he does offer to supply photographs, so I don’t think that he’s being disingenuous here.)
I did look at the site that ‘ScotsGuy’ mentioned, and the evidence there does substantiate that this indeed a money-making enterprise. I mean 50 euros for some flowers, that’s expensive even for New York prices, and 200 euros for just a meeting in positively exorbitant in anybody’s prices.
Also, the very fact that Galina Umanets admits that she has a procession of women ‘lined-up’ (she states “we propose the client to organize the meeting with other women”) does also seem to give weight to this as just a way to get a large amount of money (by Ukrainian standards) by exploiting someone’s feelings.
Surely the whole point of this should be about meeting someone from a different country as a friend, and not just a cheap (well, expensive) escort site.
Also I have looked on the map to see where Kerch is, and it does look a very remote place indeed. So I do think that it would have been quite difficult for ‘ScotsGuy’ to just pack up and leave; I mean there are flight to consider, although he could have gone to Kiev I suppose, but then, I presume that he had already paid for the ‘manic taxi driver’ up-front, so maybe he was stuck.
Although I suppose that we should take ‘ScotsGuy’ text as sincere, I mean, I don’t suppose he would have written his criticism if he had a great time?
I didn’t intend to take sides, but the evidence from the site does substantiate the accusations that he lists, so I think that there must be a certain amount of truth in what he wrote. That’s the beauty of free-speech in our country, and that’s way I like New York women; at least you know where you are with them, and they do have an immense amount of morals and character, which sadly seems to be lacking in a lot of Eastern European women judging from what I have read from people account; scams, rip-offs, desertions, and derelictions. (My sincere apologies to people who have met decent and nice partners from Europe, I do realise that bigotry is a repugnant characteristic to have, and you can’t stereotype people; and not let us forget the flip-side to the coin, where vulnerable women are forced into the most depraved and horrific conditions imaginable when they are tricked into travelling to the West and end up in squalid brothels, or even worse become murder victims.)
Sorry for going-on. I just had to have a say.
Good Luck To Everyone
Well for one - wtf you doing sitting in a dump of an overpriced $50/month Ukraine apartment. You should have cut your losses on day 2 and flew to Kiev or Odessa.
It was your choice to use a small "greedy" agency. They saw you coming and took advantage, but it happens in sales. If I were you, I'd have gone straight to the agency the very next day and let them know of all your situations.
I'd say your less than a gentleman for bring it to our attention in this forum and not with the agency you have had issues with.
If your going to badmouth some agency and not have documentation on bringing any of this up with the agency? You look to as if you could either be a competitor or disgrunted individual who wants to get even.
Honestly? I don't believe your story. I don't think someone who has access to the Internet in this day and age can get so pathetic as to stay in a dive of an apartment for 2 weeks straight and not venture out. Sorry. It just sounds too corny and contrived to have occurred...