Guys im brand new here ,And ive read alot of the threads,Most men want to find the hottest girl and bring her to
there home country , FINE :)
If i were to go to "kiev" or odessa and went str8 to an agency , And explained to them i want a girl that is motivated
to coming to the united states with me . AS long as she is somewhat attractive im fine with that
What are they chances in bringing a girl back to the usa with me?
My parents are moving to greece , and i will admit im a mama's boy bigtime , I need a wife In return i will treat her like gold ....... again i dont want miss perfect , I keep reading people saying they have taken 3to 4 trips and come up empty
tinkerbell,
These ladies do not sit on a supermarket shelf with a 'for sale' sign attached. In one trip you could 'fast food' it and return home with a 'hooker', subject to something like a 12 months wait for a US visa application to go through.
If you want 'wife' material then you're going to have to be a hell of a lot more effort in to it, 3 or 4 trips I would say to be a minimum benchmark.
^ no chance? then why are americans going over there?? SO if i girl wants to come back with me there is a minimal 12
month waiting period?? what are the chances that this girl is going to sit around and wait 12 months for me?
LMAO yea tinkerbell is my dogs name , Im not gay . im greek not "into greek" guys is there a way the agency's
can find girls that really want out of there country?
i cant afford 3 to 4 trips thats just crazy . lets keep this thread going :)
Well Tinkerbell, If you are not willing both mentally,finacially and physically to make 3 or 4 trips, your posting here will be short lived. As for the 12 months to get a visa to the states is absolute hogwash. Our visa was approved in a 101 days from date of application until my wife set foot on American soil.
Second forget the agency doing anything for you, especially whether a girl is serious. I have some nice acreage in Uganda if your interested? Sure they are going to tell you they are serious. Remember the car that was driven by grandma and it was all highway miles.
It sounds like you think these girls are just going to jump at the chance to move to the states. Well I have news for you, unless you are willing to court these ladies, bring something to the table, the majority are probably looking to stay in Europe. It was a difficult decision for my wife to move to the states. You have to remember they are giving up everything that they have known all their life to be with you. It's not an easy decision. I would be a little concerned for the woman who didn't think this proposition over for awhile. It's a different culture, different lifestyle, different language
for them. A woman with common sense isn't going to I'm in, until she has done some deep thinking about this.
Along those same lines, you must be prepared to make the transition as easy as possible for them. That means in the early stages you will have to help them do everything until they get their feet grounded. You will set doctors and dentist appointments, you will have to drive them around if she doesnt know how to drive, you should have her take driving lessons before she comes to the states.
The final thing, it sounds like you are trying to replace mom for a woman from the FSU. Well I will tell you this, unless you strap some brass balls on, Ukrainian women don't want to be a babysitter and cleaning service. Though they will take charge of many things but in the early stages she will depend on you for many things. Treating someone like gold isn't going to get the job done. My wife explained to me that the girls that she knows here in America, they came because the men acted like men, not some castrated figure that couldn't find his way out of a grocery store.
If you think you are going to get this done on the budget plan, forget about it. Depending on where you are from, you going to spend anywhere between 700 and 1500 on airfare depending on the time of year, then you are going to spend some where in the neighborhood of 1000 to 2000 on immigration. So for your first trip and if you are extremely lucky, or just plain dumb you are going to spend 3 to 5 grand just for the meeting, along with whatever the agency can gouge you for.
My advice, take a long hard look at what you are doing and if you aren't ready to commit 10-20 grand on getting a fiance here, then you shouldn't be here. Also get the agency help out of your mind that isn't going to happen. They will fleece you like a snake sheds skin.
Also it sounds like you would use an attorney to do the paperwork. Forget that also, you can do it on your own without the help of an attorney. You will have to meet in her country at least once, unless there are certain conditions that wouldn't make that possible or feasable.
If I was you Tink, I would take a deep breath, study this opportuntiy and then come back and tell me how much a lifetime of happiness is worth. You sound like you are willing to settle for any woman who looks decent that will come to be your mommy. You are looking for love your looking for a servant on the cheap. If all you need is a hand maiden call up Molly Maid and have them quote you a for year long cleaning and cooking then you will decide to open up your wallet and find a real woman looking for love and happiness.
Can not afford three or four trips?
-Then there is the visa app fee.
-then there is the trip to get her medical and a fee.
-then there is here trip to Kiev and a flight to her new home, which you should accompany her with if you are a gentleman.
-then there is your wedding, with no financial help from her parents.
-then there are temporary residency app fee's.
-then there is the car she will need. Remember she has no income.
-then there is the biometric fee.
-then there is the permanent resident app fee.
I say if your are looking for cheap and fast....look in the bars at home.
Nas fan : thanks for taking the time to post on my thread - I live in haverhill ma- AND like you said
I find it hard if not impossible for any girl to leave her family and freinds behind just to come to the USA
Yea im a man , and a hard worker , WHAT i mean by a mama's boy IS i still live with my mom , and she does spoil me
with her cooking and doing all the cleaning , JUST BEING HONEST
Im not looking for a girl to replace my mom , when i went to greece last year i was blown away by all the adorable
blonde russian girls i seen in greece , I know looks are not everthing , but there has to be girls that want out
of there counntry MORE than others?
nas fan let me ask you this? you dont reccomend agency's? than how on earth am i going to go to a fsu country
and try to bring back a girl? Im willing to buy air fare for some one to go along with me . I dont work during the
winter so now would be a perfect oppurtinty . any takers?
You need a guide who you can trust and is native over there and is not associated with the marriage agencies if you want somebody to help you there. I left you a private message. to see it log in and click on private message at the top of the page and you can read it.
Hi tinkerbell.Ive been seeing a girl for one year now in Ukraine,Its an expensive love life.I tried agencys in the early day,Never worked out.Love takes time to grow and the more time you spend with a lady the better.Its just the same as dateing a girl from your town the more time the better.Get yourself out to Ukraine with a friend and hit some clubs.Like you would in your city and see what happens.Go and ask a girl if she understands English.Buy her a drink,Have a dance together.You will have a good time,Take a friend.Or better still start planning your vacation and drop me a line and i can introduce you to some single girls but it will cost you for my trouble as i start my own agency in Kiev.I cant promise love but you will meet girls that look for a boy friend then later you and her decide
UNBELIEVABLE,
That a guy can wake up one morning and believe that he can merely jump on a plane to FSU and return a few days later with a 'wife' :)
This is hilarious, if he cannot afford 3 or 4 trips to FSU then he certainly can't afford an FSU wife, the meeting, romancing, fiancee visa stuff is just the start of it, what about all the annual, bi-annual, return trips to FSU thereafter, what about the financial supporting of her family, we were all newbies once but it does take just a little bit of research to establish that FSU ladies are not 'bargain basement' wives.
As has been said, to the effect, if one is looking for a lady on the cheap then try your local neighbourhood, there ain't no travelling expenses involved.
Hey Tinker... sorry about the comments... I did not know your post was serious I thought it was fake until reading the dialog that went on. These guys are absolutely right with their advice... INVEST not only your money and lots of it... but YOUR TIME. Don't jump into marrying the wrong person!!!!, I know from my own experience I wrecked alot of my younger years being with the wrong person who looked "good on paper" through correspondence for a year (not a FSU woman though), I proposed, never really dated in person- got married, brought her here, taught her everything practically, was a faithful husband for 19 years we tried to make it work for years but it was hopeless. I left for another woman (big mistake... get divorced first!!!!) and now she is the scorned woman and hell hath no fury.... I have been in deep s&**t for 5 years in divorce....
Take off several months leave from work and live there and date in person, that is what I am going to do next year. Get in touch with Oz's good contact over there too.
The local neighbourhood has a very poor choice of women who are often overweight and even the overweight ones think they are a catch.
If there were an abundant choice of women in the local area I don't think men would be travelling to the FSU to find a wife.
I do not see why the man should have to support the woman's family as he is not marrying them,this looks like a con that the women and the agencies are trying to swindle out of gullible western men.
It is not about looking for a wife on the cheap,if a woman is truly attracted to you she will not ask for money no matter where she comes from,however I do understand that she will need to travel back once or twice a year so that will have to be taken into consideration when marrying an FSU woman.
hertsman,
If you do not see why the man might need to support her family then you should do a little research into their ways.
It is their 'way' that as the parents get older, perhaps on a non survivable pension, the children financially support. If the man is to take away the daughter from her job in FSU that provides such financial support then it's not rocket science to realise that he is taking over any such responsibility for financial support.
We're not talking mega bucks, my mother in law needs a top-up of perhaps $50 a month however my wife works, and earns bl00dy good money, so it is something that rarely affects me. When I was last in Ukraine during January/February I gave M-I-L approx EUR100 and took her to the supermarket that cost another EUR70 ish. I didn't do it because I was expected nor asked to, I did it because I wanted to, her family are my family.
My point was that if a guy, even before he's set out on the venture, realises that he's on a restricted budget and is already counting the pennies, well he simply can't afford to see the venture thru to the end so he might as well stay at home and save his money.
let me explain why i thought it would be easy to marry a fsu girl and bring her to boston
Last year i went to greece ,And me and my freinds visited all the brothels in athens greece .And let me
tell you 99 percent of the girls were from russia or uzbakistan etc. They were all playboy material!!
YEA they were hot and really sweet
OK they charged 20 euro for some sexor , and i fell in love with alot of them LOL yea i know that sounds pathetic
I figured if drop dead gorgeas girls are leaving russia and going to work in greece for 20 bucks , Then they would
jump at the oppuertinity to leave that life style , and come to america ?
I still keep in touch with a girl that i met at a brothel . She said she would think about coming here
but She said she plans on going to dubai ......
After all the threads i have read , Its a pipe dream to think that a girl would leave behind her parents
freinds AND everthing she is used to , AND come to america ...... can it happen ? YEA
DO i want to blow 20 grand and time off of work to try to make it happen? i dont know guys
Tinkerbell.... forget the FSU... try the philippines, they speak english. You can probably do the whole thing for under 10k, and pull it off in 2 trips. Trust me, she will treat you like GOLD.