I've noticed a sudden rash of ladies coming on to f.com - all with private email (which up to now has been quite rare) and all from Lugansk, or one of the small towns nearby.
Obviously this can't be pay-per-letter, and direct contact appears to be agency-free from the get go. They could all be individual 'good time girls', but so many all at once?
These are generally all glamour-photo-blonde-late-20's.
So, what's your thoughts. Something going on, or just a lucky day for a guy to be searching f.com?
Dear muzzy,
you could be right, you could be wrong.
it may be an new agency in lugansk is active or just joined as a partner to f.com
they get paid a share (I think) when men pay, they have some system worked out for this.
actually most ladies join by agencies from their city, only few join directly.
many good ladies do not have any internet connection, you can only meet them if you go there and see the good agencies in their small town or city, if you are lucky you may get a good agency. sometimes the agency offer photos, and f.com may select from them. because so many agencies contact the top sites who have many men members. Just my ideas, you could be right to exercise caution too because on the internet , you dont see the person you are corresponding with, if they are real or not, if exist or not, of if they have stolen others photos or not. just keep in mind, from your post, you already know all this, i think. :)
Mike666
maybe word got out that Muzzy is available. the word spread fast...
I don't know anything about f.com. It seems fishy. I haven't looked at any website searching for women or any dating website since May. Check that. Yes I have. But only out of curiousity to see what others are talking about sometimes. But for the record, I would be cautious of glamour photos. And if you send someone an email through a private account they have it. It may be another form of phishing. And who knows what will be done with it. I suggest to all who enter into this arena to make sure you create an email account that you use for nothing more than this. gmail, yahoo etc. And you can easily create it anonymously. Then maybe later down the road if you have correspondance with a single person who you trust, then you may wish to close the 'fake' email account and move forward.
Actually my RW posted three professionally done "glamour" photos (and she's blond also). But every other photo was one of her in everyday situations and that started with her first email to me; one of the little one.
ALSO -- MAKE SURE YOUR VIRUS PROTECTION AND FIREWALLS ARE UP TO DATE!!! AND THAT ALL INCOMING EMAILS ARE SCREENED PRIOR TO OPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
happy turkey day baron
funny -- what baron said... I had no criteria other than an attractive and smart woman... then when I saw all of the photos of young hotties I was ready dismiss the whole thing... but I figured there must actually be a real woman hoping to meet a mate... seek and ye shall find
also to what baron said -- when I first saw the lady I am now with, she had photos that were professionally done. it took me a few weeks to contact her. I like what she had to say but was not sure because of the photos... when I asked about it many weeks later she apologized for the photos and told me they had a photo and makeup party at her work with a bunch of ladies... and she decided to use some of those photos...
funny how life works sometimes...
But glamour shots of young blondes... I doubt it is real.
I learned from our very own Olga (the moderator), that some of these contacts with a real email address are intended to "fish" for YOUR email address -- people will pay for lists of addresses of Western guys looking for FSU women, for certain operators we are attractive spam targets.
I use sites where it is free for women to write to me on the website, so if I respond to a dubious message that gives a real-world email, I say "write back to me on the site."
"Even asking about it shows that you have a lot to learn."
Why thankee master. Perhaps under your patient tutelage I can be come as wise as one who can contradict himself in the space of two posts :P
(I joke)
If you read my original post again, you'll notice that I haven't said that I've written to any, or considered doing. In fact, this is the third time I've posted on suspicious looking profiles (the last one being the lady who bears a striking resemblance to Hayden Panittiere).
My purpose in posting this, as with my 'scammers vs marks' thread, is to provoke a little discussion that's actually on the topic of FSU dating via correspondance, as opposed to the b*tching & bullying that too often goes on here.
So do relax. My pants are as securely fastened as when I last returned from the loo, and the only hot stuff here is the kung po chicken I just had.
What I do find interesting is the variety of opinions that get displayed on topics such as this, with the usual battle lines being drawn. Having said that, it's always helpful to discuss openly the different ways in which one can be taken advantage of. The 'pay per letter' scams are often spoken of here (by Olga among others), but I think it's healthy to discuss the sheer variety of other ways in which the unscrupulous work.
My own personal opinion on this is that there's too little information either way to make a definitive judgement, and that those who see scams everywhere will see them here, and those who are desperate for a 'young blonde hotty' will write regardless of obvious up-front warning flags.
These could be genuine - they could be fake. No way to tell for sure either way from a prima facie.
And for phucks sake so instant message with them via one of these Yahoo etc. downloaded messenger programmes, via those they can hack your PC for whatever may be on your PC, online banking log-in's, credit card details, email passwords etc. etc. etc.
Baron, you seem to be missing the point. Go back and read my OP again. I'm not advocating one case or another, I'm asking for people's opinions. As you can see from the replies, they do differ.
This forum, I'm sure you would agree, does get full of (wildly off topic) arguments and insults fairly quickly. Occasionally, it's nice to discuss the various facets of actual FSU dating, which includes open discussions on spotting scammers (wether YOU think they're obvious or not) on sites such as this, and ways to protect yourself. Do remember there are lots of newbies that constantly read this forum, which is supposed to be helpful - isn't it?
I'm genuinely glad for you that things have worked out as well as they have. Did you find this forum useful in your search? Did 'doing your homework' involve looking on this forum for answers or advice? Maybe, the many people who read this forum (some of whom won't post on it for fear of being flamed for having the gall to not know everything there is to know) will find Martin and Julian's advice on this thread useful? Maybe, with open discussions, where people of different levels of experience offer their advice and opinions, we can all benefit.
This forum is virtually useless for real information. I did not use any forums, as I never thought to even look for them. I did my homework on my own and prepared for communication; drafted a long introduction letter and had it professionally translated into Russian. I used Elenas Models and after paying the $99 for access to 50 emails or addresses, started communicating. My search criteria was sound and reasonable and I communicated with very real women. After the initial interest, we always left the agency and did everything on our own.
So, a flood of glamour photos of ladies is just that a flood of photos.
Stop looking at photos and look at the profiles. That is how one should do this, if you are serious.
Baron, what is your definition of a 'very real women'?
Is it from many letters? Is it from visiting? From their words?........
It is interesting the words 'real women' is used here at times when speaking about girls from different sites or local agencies(there is a difference).