Beemer and Jet, Just a quick note to say thanks for answering my questions and the additional information of your preferences in the posts. It is good to know approach others have and how it works for them. Thanks again and will be back to stay involved in the forum. Regards
beemer:
Strange question - I know but humor me please.
What is the girls first name? The one you think might be the right one (you say you have it down to one)?
Hmmmm...Jet...First of all, I said time will tell if she is right girl. As of right now, I am unsure. Some things are not clear to me yet. I have not been to her place and have not met her sister, just her son. So, maybe there is something hidden from me??
Not sure about revealing her name due to many girls checking this site. I got found out one time for opening my big mouth and revealing some facts. Some girls that read here cannot differenciate bettween facts, talk and humor.
Well...name is Yana. Maybe someone will know this. Funny, everytime I tell my friend a girl's name and what district she lives in, he thinks of a girl because some have reputations...lot of talking there.
Since I decided to stay extra days had to move to another apt...what a hassle..this apt near brit embassy, got three stautes outside watching the place. Reminds me of guards in England, whatever palace that is( pardon my lack of knowledge)where gurds are standing outside with big hats and people go by and try to make them flinch!! :)))
After my friend found me apt, I met his wife and we went to have drinks, place called Ray's Cafe. Wonder if 'cafe' will ever mean having same meaning...this is a bar...frequented by many foreigners, maybe that is why many young girls come, some alone. From what I gather in my conversations, you can come here and do very well with girls, without having girls lined up. Just have to know I few people and know right places to go. if you are sexually inclined, seems to be plenty of that, not my style. Girls hang out at clubs outside waiting for guy to pay their way in and maybe drinks too. Funny how some will buy one drink and make it last all night, I know it happens at home.
Had a drink at McD's this morning right where all buses drop off crowds of people every few seconds....to watch the people walk by...ok ok the girls!!! Very nice...sun is finally out so little more revealing. I think girls look nice everywhere, don't know how or why but that walk,,,hmmm strut of girls is mesmorising, kind of like human trait, thier born with it....and if they have to walk faster even better...more sequencial movement...there is a rythum!!!
Went to 'Jerefe'(giraffe??) last night for dinner, nice place, food was very good..and my girl looked very nice..always did like the leapard dress. Had trouble focusing on her eyes....I had that disease of falling eyes, you know the one that drifts down to about 'that' level. I tried not to show my sickness, hope I hid it enough that it was not so obvious...for guys that are in the know...what comes after 'B'??????? :)))
I am quite careful NOT to give the name of this particular site to my special lady, the one I want to bring over on a fiance visa. She also doesn't know my handle here, or spend much time on the web. That could change very soon as I have given her a notebook computer and she will soon have internt access. Add to that the fact that she is extremely Bright ESPECIALLY with technology. While there are things my mobile telephone or computer can do - that I have never actually learned - she puts EVERYTHING she has through its paces very quickly and VERY SOON is expert on all the ecapabilities. Maybe its just because she has the time and I don't, its hard to say.
The girls name you gave me, is actually a relief to me. There is ONE girl in Moldova that I am having a hell of a time getting over. I met her in 2003 and broght her over on a fiance visa. Then we had a snafu and though we have stayed in contact - we "broke up". She didn't want to get married. SHe has a widowed mother and is an only child and could not bare to leave her mother. I know she is dating again. And being 5,000 miles away she could be doing anything. And me bringing another over, of course, have no say in the issue. But I cannot forget her - or the sad letter I got from her just a few days ago (she knows I am now with another).
But her name is not Yana. That is a small relief. As irrational as this whole story I am telling everyone, must sound.
You know Jet......I was afraid it was some girl you knew of but not your ex, for I knew about your previous girl from descriptions last year. I do hope her name isn't anywhere close because many names have nicknames close to original.I think it would have been hard on me if I thought it might be your ex, I didn't think she was from beginning. Also, I thought of writing name close but not exact. Reason I don't like to put names of girls i know from this site they can easily read something and put two and two together. Girls are very smart. As you have described in your post of your girlfriend. Lucky I didn't tell you of other girls I have met here...around the age of your ex, sorry....you know there is thousands of girls here what are chances???
I KNOW its irrational. And I already admitted it was. And I know the odds are against it - but, just like the lottery, SOMEBODY eventually BEATS those odds. He name isn't anything CLOSE to Yana. Though she does occasionally use a few derivatives of her name - Yana isn't one of them.
The only other girl I know well from Moldova (but never actually was involved with), is married and has had two children. She and her husband are in economic straights and she talks periodically of leaving him. I wouldn't put it past her to CLAIM she was single and see a few men for what she could get out of them. But her name isn't Yana either.
You did describe the behavior of several of he girls you mentioned and none sounded like her. Also I have no doubt that soon after meeting her - she would have broken several of your rules most likely the top two right off the bat. Its just her nature.
If you did meet her and hit it off - hey, its your right (and hers) I have no say so. I am, after all, with somebody else. I just don't particularly want to know about it.
Jet..you don't sound like the irrational type but I know girls have a way of making men do things they don't want to...if they only knew the power they have!!!
You are right, first two rules are sacred to me. It is all down hill if they are broken. You don't know extactly where you stand..whether you are coming or going...if that makes any sense.
Alfred.....experienced??? Don't know, maybe I talk up a good storm!!!! I have thought long and hard about what I would like and what I don't want. Hopefully I will find someone to share all special moments together, as equals, going down the same path of life. Some guys find this while many of us still seek it. Anytime you are in a foreign land you are at disadvantage, it is like going uphill,
weeding through problems of finding your girl. Yes, I have been to ukraine several times and again soon. This is my first time in moldova and I enjoyed myself, what was important was knowing someo here to answer questions and tell you about city.
Couple interesting points to share with you guys.
German friend I met here, from previous posts, told me about his 'plan'. I have heard it before on other threads last year I think. He comes here every couple months. He puts a personal add in newspaper. He usually get 6-10 responces and he comes to meet them. Saw a couple of them, look average but he tells me he does well, if you know what I mean. I tell him I didn't want to know details but he continued to show me with his hands....must have been quite a girl!! :))))) Not really my cup of tea but it is a way to meet girls, mostly they answer from university.
Second point is the 'sexual' aspect of night life. Things don't get going till midnight. Sort of reminds me of Vegas.
Well, Dr Jeckell had a moment of Mr Hyde.......let me tell you, a bottle of champagne goes a long way for 18-21 year old girls. Felt like a Bachelor Party!!! Maybe Ben can back me up on that. My friend told me I had a big smile but I don't remember it all. I just remember name of street..Negruzzi..I think. Stopped at a place near there where beers were $1. It is funny how many people get get loaded BEFORE they go to clubs. To all those sex creatures...maybe Chisinau should be in your travel plans......maybe it is same everywhere??, just know someone there to take you around to the right spots.
Beemer, I really enjoyed reading your last entry. Please share more if it is appropriate. I have been particularly interested in your notes about Moldova and Chisinau because I met on a free site a much younger college woman from Chisinau. We have been corresponding for months and she and her friends (roommates) appear very interested in the sexual experiences of an older man. They appear to be quite willing to experience an older man's wisdom. Therefore, your German friend's experience makes sense to me. Again, appreciate your messages.
The poor young college age women who have a desire for a wise old foreigner to come show them the wisdom of his sexual experience huh? And they can't get this in their own country as either oldre men aren't wise (?) or sexually experienced enough(?)(!)
Most likely you are being rnitced in the hope that you will show up for a nice extravagant shopping trip.
Go visit her. Bring lots of cash. And keep us updated and keep us updated with a progress report as you teach these "innocents abroad" the wise sexual ways of the world. They must be thrilled to have the opportunity to learn from you!
Beemer I don't know what your talking about... i'm normally at home working on my stamp collection in the evenings :) Being married my bachelor party days are limited. Good to hear you had a good time. Hopefully you'll be back and i'll be in town next time.
Can I add something.....these girls that want an experience with an older guy will want to get something out of it,
you know nothing is free!!!! I mentioned to my german friend about a friend in Costa Rica having a blast there, of course money plays a part, he said he probably pays for it and afterward german guy admits he would give a little something to girl. For some reason he doesn't talk about money beforehand. I tell him what is difference whether you pay before or after. If girl asks for money beforehand, he walks away.
Toby....you post does not sound too encouraging. If girls talk about sexual experiences, they are looking for money and/or maybe prostitutes. Mostly likely loking for guy with money. If that is what you want, you are heading in right direction. I look for different type girl. I don't know if I can elaborate anymore, just hard to believe some girls that act/look normal while walking in srteets during day can be so different at night. I remember a friend telling me one time, 'You date the stripper...you don't marry her'.
Of course the girls Toby is talking about must be prositutes.
I think its hilarious that people lull themselves into believing things that common sense should tell you are OBVIOUSLY ridiculous.
You see ADS all the time - "MAKE $100 PER HOUR STUFFING ENVELOPES!" or "MAKE $100,000 PER YEAR AS A COMPUTER PROGRAMMER. STUDY AT HOME. COMPLETE COURSE FOR $25!"
People fall for stuff like this.
A while back I read an ad that promised to teach guys a sexual technique that women would PAY them for! What's more, these women would tell their friends and soon the guys would be busy every night making tens of thousands of dollars. And guys were assured that their looks and age didn't matter!
Well this is similar - "Come show me and my young and nubile college roomate, your wise and experienced sexual ways. We want to learn!" But of course, its UKRAINE. Not a rich country. Women and men probably don't know anything ABOUT sex there and want an older wiser American to teach them about it!
Some people will fall for anything.
Toby - if you really want a hooker I am sure you can find one locally. Save time and airfare.
sorry guys for long silence....been kept busy...need time to gather my thoughts.
For anyone traveling between Chisinau and Odessa, bus work out great, $9. Of course, asked for route around Transneister zone. Seems there were several morning buses taking that route. Total time was around 5 hours, including 90 minutes at both sides of border and no bribes!!!!! To fly into Moldova easily adds $300 to trip. I did have a tense moment, I knew I was only foreigner on bus and they wanted to see one person from bus in office, thought it was me, looked right at me before asking girl sitting next to me to go( this at moldova border). I crossed at Palanka.
Last few days spent in odessa, not knowing exactly my plans, many hopefuls but nothing assured. I did have some friends to meet that own a restaurant. I knew I could hang there if things slowed. If you remember my previous thread in fall last year, i spent much time there watching the girls stroll by, in fact I was flirting with 2 girls working in kitchen all the time. Too bad they spoke no english and my russian is broken. I am famous for one liners and they laugh at my russian. Since I only had numbers for 2 girls, I relied on timing of girls calling me to set up meetings. Not the advisable or
smart thing to do......timing was off completely. Out of 7 possible girls on my list, only met with 3 1/2. I am sure you are wondering how I got 1/2 girl, well my #1 girl had to leave on business trip, which happened several times during our writing. She felt very bad about not meeting me and asked if I could meet with her friend. She wanted to see if I was real and wanted to know what I was like( surely a report given on me). Yes...I told her the same thing...is SHE real???? I had nothing to lose, wow, the friend was every bit as stunning as girl #1 but I was myself...the gentleman. As for other 3 girls, not much exciting happened, all only one date( one never showed up on a second). Ever got the feeling while on first meeting that it was not going anywhere. The thought goes through my mind...why?..why is this girl meeting me?? for food?...pay her interpreter? What is going through HER mind??? Today is 'No Girl Day'...just relax,walk around, sit at park, watch people go by. I try to do this at each city and trip I am on. Get a sense of what their culture is all about. It is a good feeling and takes pressure off about girls!!!! One funny thing, as with other trips....you could almost tell a foreigner off from a mile away. Please don't wear those 501's, or tennis shoes or those ugly plaid shirts. Try to look more like the people there. Nice dress shoes would be a good start and dark colors. The jeans worn by guys there are different than in the states. At times, walk by a guy with 2 girls with one girl doing all the talking...old guy, young girl...doesn't take much to know what that is all about, what scares me, is that could be a description of me in someone elses eyes..ugh!!!!
Hey Beemer, hey this is really cool of you. It is refreshing to hear some positives. What are your objectives now after your visit, have they changed? I had decided when I started communicating with FSU girls that I was going to find the right one. At times it is difficult and wondered if it was worth the trouble. Is it?
Hey Real!!! My objectives have never changed...still looking for the right girl. At times I do get off track, to make trip interesting, I do indulge. My way is meeting several girls on each trip gives me the ability to see how we match up. Most girls are very nice and upfront, while others are obviously want to be taken care of( got to scratch each others back).
Is it worth the trouble?......good question....I would say yes, if you feel like you are progressing forward but I tell you, the minute you lose the fire, it's all over. This is a very difficult, expensive and painstaking endeavor, I know I am getting to the point where I at times wonder if this is still for me.