Beemer my reason for bringing up this past thread is it is identical to his current threads. His problem is he wasn't accepted as the authority on scamming in this forum. At the time of his writing there were plenty of guys going over to the FSU and in large part most of us had experience in international travel. Though the information that is given out in this forum doesn't require to post and individual scammer on here.
I like how he said that scammers will continue because of forums like this. Nope scamming will continue because guys like him send women he has never met 75 dollar dart sets. He was angry that he wasn't accepted as the resident scammer expert. He learned it all at RWG. So he was going to educate us dumbasses here.
He has no international marriage experience. Marrying a girl from Fiji would be like me marrying a latin girl from Southern California or Mexico. Same distance, same common language for most parts. When he said his wife was Indian it probably prompted visions of New Dehli in most peoples heads and that is how he wanted it. Like he was some great traveler and trail blazer. English, Bau Fijian, and Fijian Hindustani are spoken in Fiji.
It's really funny his posts from 2005 and now could almost be copied and pasted here because there isn't much difference with the exception of the money his given away for some womans attention. Then again, real honest women from Ukraine are looking for something else than money.
Hey d*ck head Martin, I am 5ft 7 inches and not looking at FSU girls, not writing or any contact with any of these for 6 months now, I am not active in this area anymore, why ressurect this old thread.
I pulled all my profiles from the net just before last x-mas.
I don't want to marry a foreign woman and go through Aussie bull sh*t fiance visa process again, I am in a defacto relationship now that works for me with a real Aussie lady and none of this ball and chain crap of marriage, 12 years of marriage previously choked my individuality.
Life is better without marriage for me..works for me!
I come here and read the stories of the guys that get burnt by foreign b*tches and feel sorry for them...I was a victim myself and have empathy for them.
In pursuit of the foreign wife and marriage is many a mans downfall...its not cracked up to what its glorified as...it is often a mans worst nightmare when it goes down the toilet which is more than 50% of the time...you never rush into this...you weigh up all the pros and cons and decide if its for you and if you want to take a big risk because if it goes wrong it will stuff up your life for years...for me there is far more cons in it...many men pissed there lives away on a piece of arse and a bit of paper..the marriage certificate!
For every guy here its there choice to do it...and you can dig your own grave and lie in too or be in paradise!
Yes beemer you have an unfair advantage over Martin and I. I think you are a trusted poster but I think our posts must be sent to management and scrutinized to decide if they will be posted or trashed. You are allowed to use urls and sometimes we get by with it. If a thread is hot and I make a post I notice several posts will come up and then mine shows up later in a position ahead of some that have been there already for half a day.
Oz this goes back a long time ago. Actually I have to commend the moderators of eliminating a thread before it got legs. I wish they would do it always when someone posts a womans profile on this site or her name, it should be immediately taken down.
I'm currently also on probation, my posts must be cleared by moderator. I sent Oleg an email the other day describing some frauds that have been committed in here. It's actually unfair to the guys that are really seriously looking to find a woman in the FSU. I watched as one got extemely bad advice and it ruined a promising relationship he had. After convicting the woman before meeting her from some meatheads expert advice, he tried to apologize to her and set it straight. She told him to go pound salt. Nice job Mr. Expert with the newbie.
There are more scammers on these boards than I bet operate in the FSU. Guys trying to act as if they have some great life because their reality is not that at all. Trying to hard to fit in, when a natural approach would be better.
One clown has his profile back on a freepersonals site again after claiming to be married. I'm sure this is some great research that is being done for some secret project with some agency. Yeah right. He's been moderating this forum and reporting to another forum about the corruption within fiance.com
As for Fiance.com, I don't think guys can find much better way to write ladies. Even one's from pay per letter sites are on here and it saves you money. When I was on fiance.com I think it was 29 bucks a month for unlimited letters. I wrote my wife almost everyday until her agency bitched that it was too much, and I just started to call her everyday at home on my lunch hour at work.
Fiance.com isn't an agency, they do the best they can to provide a decent service. I'm proof that it works. You can't have to much expectation out of it, you must use common sense be a man and you will do fine. I had better things to do in my life than argue in this forum how many women were listed here, or if there was a chat room or not.Or try to shame some woman who rebuffed my advances towards here. If I was worried about those things I would have cancelled my membership after the first month.
The thing that bothers me for new guys is these self proclaimed experts who have created a life behind a keyboard and they are fraudulent in what they are preaching to the audience. Now new guys have to deal with the problems of the women and the silly wannabes in these forums.
I was not posting a complaint. The people who host and monitor this forum have the right to allow or disallow whatever they want to. This forum is provided to us at no cost in hopes to bring more traffic and sales to their site. So when they refuse to post my replies on views advocating a communication different than the services they provide, adding a Url to direct someone to, or making a positive comment on a thread involving a competitive agency, they have every right to do so and I do not mind it.
As for Fiance.com system I think I kind of have a handle on how they operate and it kind of sounds like a workable system but every time I look for information I run into a page where I have to join to see more and that is where I quit.
I was merely making the comment on beemers reply that his post appeared before Martins dated earlier than his
nasfan6 02.03.2008 10:44:55
(One clown has his profile back on a freepersonals site again after claiming to be married. I'm sure this is some great research that is being done for some secret project with some agency. Yeah right. He's been moderating this forum and reporting to another forum about the corruption within fiance.com)
Hello Readers,
This is the 'clown' speaking and just putting some things into perspective here:
I made a remark initially, in passing, on this forum back in 2005, that I was married, almost immediately nasfan (nowadays a.k.a. my stalker) and his then 'cronies' immediately responded, somewhat unpolitely, to the effect that there was no way I was married, I was not, but they were of course, capable of finding a lady and, again to the effect, that it takes a 'man' to find a lady insinuating that I was not a man but making the point that they considered themselves to be 'men' and so much above others.
Well the subject pretty much, after a while, died a death on this forum however there is one individual, I'm sure you can figure out who, who appears to have made it his life goal to disprove my marriage who will just not let the matter drop, indeed over the past 3 years he must have occupied circa 24 or 48 hours (a whole 1 or 2 days) browsing the internet, not that he would use Google of course for fear of being flamed by himself, to try to dig dirt on me and my marriage and he fails at every hurdle.
Indeed it must have been around mid-point over these past 3 years that my stalker made a challenge that I make available a copy of my marriage certificate, well my wife can't understand why I even bother responding to him anyway and, not that I ever would, were I to explain to her that I had shown him our marriage certificate she would adjudicate that I had 'lost the plot'.
Now as some of you will know, particularly those of you that have communicated with me by PM, email & telephone, my wife's best friend is an agency owner in Ukraine and towards the end of last year we were talking regarding a market research 'thingy' that an organisation had contacted her regarding. It's a 2 month 'thing' whereas a guy, and there are multiple guys, simply reports back, by completing a form, to responses received to a profile and would I like to take part. OK there's not much money in it, $50 but for literally an hour or so's work so I decided 'yes'.
Now I posted a profile at the start of the project, on 01 February, and it shall become removed at the end of the project, on 31 March, even as I was posting it I knew that 'snoop dog' would be browsing the internet in search of his much lusted dirt and I just knew that it would appear, sooner or later, on this forum.
Well all I can say is what a sad individual nasfan6 is, he really does need feeling sorry for, it appears that, in his head, he is the only one that is allowed to have any knowledge of Ukraine, he's the only one allowed to have succeeded with a Ukrainian lady and the jealousy that oozes out of him daily, well as I say he needs feeling sorry for.
And do I really care if nasfan6, or anybody on this forum, believes if I am married or not, do I phuck!
And just to bring 'snoop dog's' dirty washing out in to public here is the PM he sent me bragging, because he has to make a big noise about everything, that he he dragging up these pastr threads to show 'me' as a hypocrite and a loser, I think I can detect who is the hypocrite around here but I'm not going to PM many of you like he did, I'll allow you the choice of reading it or not.
nasfan6 Martin_FFC 02.03.2008 10:50:46 I see you are being a fraud again. Married my ass. You tried to be slick since you left a paper trail about the lion cub in your lap. Though now you didn't put up that picture because it would incriminate you from your postings in the forum here. You had the balls to call Toad a Liar, when it's been you all along that has been living a lie. What prompted me to look again is another of your timeline errors you wrote here from the past. So I went into dating talk and checked. Then for the Hell of it said, lets see if the lying creting has slithered his profile back up. Badabing, I just laughed my ass off. It's been copied and sent to many here in the forum because I know after talking to Oleg he won't let me post it here. Along with the attached link. Way to funny Marty, you're such a hypocrite and loser. That's why I am also bringing up some of the past threads so many new guys can see you for what you are. I'm at the point I feel sorry for you pathetic life, but then when I think about it after you ruined this place, I'm not a damn bit sorry.
Martin the bottom line is you're a liar, you have been one all along. You have attacked many people in this forum and ran good one's off. I wasn't browsing the internet until you made a comment about a situation you said happened three years ago. You don't have your timelines straight. That is what happens to liars. They try their best to document. I mean really on why would you only put up the one picture unless you where trying to hide from people. So know one would really know that was Martin, but the trademark lion cub would give it away. Such a sorry lad you are.
Market research, pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaseeeeeeeee I am in tears from laughing. You got busted that is all there is to it.
Typical copy and paste, don't you have something new Marty? Post another one, or maybe I should post your reply? One your are a hypocrite, you attacked TinTin for the same thing you did in this forum that is hypocricy. Keep em comin' Marty: I'm English from England. Another hypocricy you went on an abusive tirade of no such country as England.
I wonder how many post's it will take before you melt down and start blitzing the forum? My favorite will always be your early post here, Thus I'm still hunting was the quote. Like you were single and blazing a trail when you had already set up to meet a lady supposedly in Zaporozhye, Then you bragged to Nataliya, what a great time you had, even better than before with her. You're a fraud, just that simple. Watch your timelines buddy there are others out here like Jet and Thunder that remember these things also.
And just to bring 'snoop dog's' dirty washing out in to public here is the PM he sent me bragging, because he has to make a big noise about everything, that he he dragging up these pastr threads to show 'me' as a hypocrite and a loser, I think I can detect who is the hypocrite around here but I'm not going to PM many of you like he did, I'll allow you the choice of reading it or not.
nasfan6 Martin_FFC 02.03.2008 10:50:46 I see you are being a fraud again. Married my ass. You tried to be slick since you left a paper trail about the lion cub in your lap. Though now you didn't put up that picture because it would incriminate you from your postings in the forum here. You had the balls to call Toad a Liar, when it's been you all along that has been living a lie. What prompted me to look again is another of your timeline errors you wrote here from the past. So I went into dating talk and checked. Then for the Hell of it said, lets see if the lying creting has slithered his profile back up. Badabing, I just laughed my ass off. It's been copied and sent to many here in the forum because I know after talking to Oleg he won't let me post it here. Along with the attached link. Way to funny Marty, you're such a hypocrite and loser. That's why I am also bringing up some of the past threads so many new guys can see you for what you are. I'm at the point I feel sorry for you pathetic life, but then when I think about it after you ruined this place, I'm not a damn bit sorry.
And of course his latest post, which I am so happy to repeat because he is, so, clutching at straws:
Oz it was just an observation that's all.
Martin the bottom line is you're a liar, you have been one all along. You have attacked many people in this forum and ran good one's off. I wasn't browsing the internet until you made a comment about a situation you said happened three years ago. You don't have your timelines straight. That is what happens to liars. They try their best to document. I mean really on why would you only put up the one picture unless you where trying to hide from people. So know one would really know that was Martin, but the trademark lion cub would give it away. Such a sorry lad you are.
Market research, pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaseeeeeeeee I am in tears from laughing. You got busted that is all there is to it.
SOME OF YOU MAY SAY, INDEED COMPLAIN, THAT THIS FORUM IS NOT A PLACE FOR PERSONAL VENDETTA, CHIP'S ON SHOULDERS, WELL i COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE.
aNY MORE pm'S THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND TO ME, THAT I CAN DISPLAY YOU FOR WHAT YOU REaLLY ARE, 'SNOOP DOG'?
Ah, we have another PM, keep them coming 'Oh Sh1thead':
nasfan6 Martin_FFC 02.03.2008 20:17:25 A marriage certificate doesn't give out the much personal information and anyway if you were married in Ukraine it would be in Russian. Secondly I knew you would try the market bullshit. You're a liar just like you accused Toad. Remember I've seen a Ukrainian marriage certificate and my wife is Ukrainian.
Second who needs pictures, Hell I can send pictures of anyone. You're stories never jive and I will keep exposing you for the fraud that you are. I don't spend time stalking as you claim, it's just another of your faggot buzz words to make someone look bad. I spend about 10 minutes reading the forum. You're to easy to predict. You sit at the keyboard slobbering waiting to write you next response. Talk about no life and stalking.
My favorite is I'm English from England, didn't you chastise someone for that. You're such a hypocrite. Nope you got busted and if it truly was market research it doesn't have to happen on the first. We do market studys starting the beginning of the month. You are such a twisted little person and you don't have much life as the moderators have posted in the past. I will continue to prove you are the liar that you are until you admit the truth. Just like you did to Nor, Izi, Toad and everyone else you have harrassed.
You're Anti American and I love it, this is one American that won't take your shit and run away. You're a coward that hides behind a keyboard. Trying to live a life vicariously through the internet talk about a joke.
OK,
My previous post has been moderated (refused) by the 'feds' so let me just say 'owner' of this here forum and one protected 'poodle', who gets away with saying whatever he likes, of this here forum, might that say it all?
Steeleman,
Not that you are one for listening, I started dating FSU ladies around 1998, I met my wife 2 years ago and she'll be coming to UK in the not too distant future once we have completed a project, and yes, we shall be going out to dinner together, in precisely 8 days time from today.
During the meantime I can idle my time frequenting forums whilst trying to help others such as the guy who recently wasn't aware that he needed Russian transit visas etc. Or the guy that is taking a chance on writing to ladies from Lugansk or indeed the guy that travels to Odessa only to be blown out or be professionally dated. Some people care to listen to advice, some people don't!
Martin One question What is the not too distant future????????? 1 week, one month, one year, two years?
Keep the storys and lies coming. No use using a PM with you to keep the fight out of the forum you paste it up like a little girl. Let the games
begin!!
Oh yes remember how well you helped Cornwall???
It's you that is fighting nasfan, as you always are, I am merely defending myself in 'self-defence'.
As always you are using this forum, whilst spoiling it for others, as your personal weapon. If I, or others, were to fart in a force 9 gale on this forum the moderators would jump in but for nasfan, well he is the owner's 'poodle', he can get away with whatever he likes.
And in 3 years you haven't got the message yet have you? Talk about being slow, if you went any slower you'd go backwards! The point is that you can ask as many questions as you like but what on god's earth gives you the impression that you are entitled to answers?
Lets work on the "Research Thingy" a bit. No credible research company would use a fraudulent front to collect data for targeting potential customers. First of all especially if the person is first giving fraudulent data. I.E first lie in your profile, never been married. Second lie single. Now the credibility of the data is no skewed because it wasn't done correctly. Since most have a 3-5% error factored in that's for the people who will not answer correctly.
You put a profile up for your benefit only. Suggesting to thousand of ladys that you are available. Now that's what I call scamming. So who is the liar here? Second you know you left a paper trail here from one of your previous posts about the lion cub in your lap. Since you removed that picture and most of the people here are new, they wouldn't know about it so you could skate away with another lie. No Marty I didn't have to spend days researching you fraudulent life, all the information is right here in the forum and in datingtalk.info (Thanks Thunder for the tip)
Marty if you had the goods on me and could bury me, you would provide the information in a heartbeat. Since you don't I know it's all BS. Because you can't answer truthfully or it would make every post here suspect.
Thanks Shaggy and others,
One thing that was pleasing, I received a couple of very ladylike replies to the effect 'thank you for your attention but please look for another lady'. I know all about the FSU culture but it is a long time since I've met such politeness on the internet!
Yep, I guess the scammers must be here as everywhere but like everywhere, if you're searching in the under 25, drop dead gorgeous category then you're at high risk with a decreasing risk the older the age and the lesser the looks.
Anyway, I'm in Ukraine 18 December until 03 January thus still hunting!
Thanks again guys
01-10-2005, 07:24 AM
MartinUK
Members Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 746
Hi Nataliya,
Thanks, I had an unbelievable time, best and longest trip yet, we didn't stop laughing and enjoying ourselves for 2 weeks.
Unfortunately, the referred to 'bastard' has mafia connections, if not indeed mafia himself and I believe you'll understand if I say he is 'protected'.
She has left him, is now writing letters and meeting guys etc. but that doesn't stop the bastard, at present, finding her and knocking her around.
I just find the suggestion that religion forbids such a divorce quite sickening, I guess such a rule was invented by a man!
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Marty had previous posted like he was searching for a woman with out any contacts, when in actuality he had met this woman in April. Went through a big breakup so he claims, then goes back and has the greatest time. Soon after in our Forum he claims to be married. Yeah right!! He also claimed he didn't met his wife via the internet, which in one of his own posts is an outright lie, he bragged in datingtalk how just before he left in April he had to furiously write some ladies to contact jus four days before he left. Wow the postal service is lightning fast. She answered if 4 days and met you? Please save us with this stupidity.
As always you are using this forum, whilst spoiling it for others, as your personal weapon. If I, or others, were to fart in a force 9 gale on this forum the moderators would jump in but for nasfan, well he is the owner's 'poodle', he can get away with whatever he likes.
And in 3 years you haven't got the message yet have you? Talk about being slow, if you went any slower you'd go backwards! The point is that you can pose as many questions as you like but what on god's earth gives you the impression that you are entitled to answers?