Engaged again! Its much more interesting than "Desperate housewives". Im not sure Im interested of Kievs train, but that cultural discovery seems interesting. Pleeeaaaase, dont go!:)
Izi
I would say I will miss you on the forum but I have pretty much checked off the forum also, once ever two weeks or so I check in just to see the tenor of the forum-nothing has changed. It is a realy shame, the community had much potential...
Hello I've been checking your site for a while. I think it doesn't make any sense. The advice is very poor if any. People are overly aggressive. Once you hear positive comments about FSu ladies the next moment they're not so good, this guy gltalltoad suggested a few pages back in this thread to check Yekaterinburg meaning for some good sex. I checked a few of his posts, there is one with 25,000 views on page 6! He screwed a girl from Yekaterinburg, maybe his advice is to others to do the same. Very pitiful.
OK Steve all is well...How you solved it when your girlfriend dont speak english?
Can you tell us this cultural thing you discovered! At least something what have some point...
If people complain about forum, why they dont write something interesting?
What about advice : I think that belourussian guy Alex gives good advice.
You have posted liberally for months and been given the kind of leeway you do not tolerate from others, who's views you clearly do not agree with.
Russian women can be aggressive and very direct and Annika and Bagira are no less so. I doubt if their motives are anything other than to inject their particular brand of common sense into proceedings. Saying, rudely, that you know your own situation best may salve your ego but it will count for nothing if it all goes pear-shaped.
Even though it has been clearly demonstrated that exposing one's personal life on this forum is risky, you then complain bitterly that everyone else is getting it wrong and not you. Well, you got it wrong before, so don't be surprised that others think you may be getting it wrong again. There is a definite feeling amongst the ladies that you can't just tick off a checklist of qualities you want and happiness ensues. Life and people are not so accommodating. I think it's the main point they make. You may feel that you learned a lesson from your last experience but have you? From what I can see of your latest posts, it's not apparent.
I wish you luck. It isn't easy for those who have little time and money to invest, to find the right person. I'm not sure I could do what you are doing but you plough your own furrow.
Toad
Still plugging away, I see. Not like the old days is it? No-one pays you much attention these days. Calling the ladies extremists and egotists is pretty hilarious.
The moderators have made the point before. This forum is open to both men and Women. Childish petulance wont change it. I see you are still advocating the four 'F's on a forum that is supposed to be for those seriously seeking. stephen_h is right. Pitiful.
Yet again my point is proven. QC has completely misunderstood the direction of my post and who it is aimed at. He is convinced I am talking exclusively about the women. I am not.
Once again somebody not speaking the truth and twisting the past and the facts.
Leeway??
I have been very tolerant of others. I am not anymore.
Plough my own furrow??
Absolutely it is my life.
The forum is not a place for sensible discussion of the various problems associated with finding a wife abroad. It is about political extremism and rudeness left and right. It has been strongly noticeable from the very first post.
Why??
I have no idea.
Culture does not excuse rudeness I do not care what anybody says. Whitewash it anyway you want. It is not just Annika and Bagira I aim at it is also Wtrav02, Martin, Nasfan and a host of others past and present. Including QC even if he is more sophisticated it is the same. TD and Jet everybody in fact seems to think that it is ok to just mouth off and to hell with the feelings of the one aimed at. It was Alex that called my last lady a whore closely followed by TD. Why I do not know. I was involved with her, knew her (and still do) I did not insult her but perfect strangers thought it was fine to do so.
Annika offers no input merely laughter at everyone here. That is our job, to amuse her. She has admitted this.
I have my own opinions true but I have often tried very hard to be a mediator and take a middle path. Aknowledging the point of view of another. Apparently even that is wrong. So what is the point??
Just a place in cyberspace for people to be 'tough guys' - sounding off and being rude to other people that they would not dream of behaving so face to face. Not through any fear but pure ettiquete.
QC, Annika etc have merely demonstrated why I want to go.
Pointless heckling and twisting of what has been said to a non recognisable consistency. So what is the point? Continue so one can receive and witness more of the same?
I do not just talk about what I have personally been slapped with even in this trhead. I also refer to the rubbish that has been heaped on those others that don't bother with this place anymore. They just quietly slink off and allow QC and anybody else that feels like it to attack them in their absence.
Enough already. I don't need the unpleasant unnecesary advice about irrelavant things and I certainly do not need the insults. OR to witness a bunch of ill mannered people batter each other for no real reason I can see no matter who eruditely it is put. OR how vulgarly either.
I really have to stop even stopping by here it is masochistic.
QC
I have not been 'given' any kind of leeway here ever and my tolerance level is quite high. Anybody that can wade through the political drivel that is espoused here needs it.
Do me a favor get your facts straight before you post. No doubt you will now want to search through god knows how many pages of forum material to find exactly the right quotes to make your comments seem more valid.
I am sure that you can do it.
Rush Limbaugh makes a living out of that. Personally I think it is dead time.
Steve, I dont belive you find somebody who will understood that situation with your new fiance! I really tried but maybe because my poor english I dont understand anything!
'I really have to stop even stopping by here it is masochistic'.
You should have stopped months ago. You've never needed this place nor it's unhealthy influence.
Sorry. I have no interest in wading through treacle. Nor seeking validity.
Which facts aren't straight? You have written copiously, especially when your relationship with Marina hit the skids. You are very defensive when you (usually wrongly) perceive criticism and you've been up and down like a whore's drawers. As to attacking people in their absence. You are not absent and it's not an attack but an observation. Or let's call it a cultural misunderstanding.
With Toad it's an attack on hypocrisy and since you are pals, your defence of him is to be expected.
It is getting harder and harder for me to recognise my old country. It has changed beyond recognition. Right now there is a hue and cry because a Pakistani bastard along with 2 Somali shits gunned down a policewoman.
SO I SUPPOSE CALLING A PAKASTANI A BASTARD AND A SOMALIAN A SHIT DOESN'T CONSTITUTE RUDENESS?
Now I'm upset, I've been accused of being a member of the Izi Backslappers Club and he goes and lumps me in with the rest. So much for the money for next years dues in the backslappers club.
Izi has a point, though I might disagree with him a little. It seems European Erudites, come through as never being wrong, and find a way to hammer expatriates of Europe and find a way to bash Americans in this forum. If you follow the Animosity trail there was one central focus that derived many other unpleasant situations. When someone post's a success here, he is berated,belittled and basically called a bold face liar. When someone post's a failure here, then the party really begins, the pile on is extreme almost a celebratory atmosphere by the antagonists. So much for sophistication.
I did chuckle at Dittos post in another thread when someone claimed Donetsk is loaded with scammers. This forum is loaded with scammers, of the worst type. The scam is the support of a losers mentality. Failure is their friend, especially if it is someone elses failure and their expertise will come through on how they would have done it better, or better yet how many of us have the lack of knowledge of women from the FSU. Though they have expert knowledge and testimony of how our lives are lead on a day to day basis in our countries. That's pure bullshit.
I had a member email me about my Fiance's Visa application and why I hadn't posted much about it on here. Why the hell should I? It's a myth, it's a lie, and it's never going to happen. This type of woman doesn't exist, according to the so called experts in this forum. Hell Donetsk is loaded with scammers, I know one guy that is married to a lady from Donetsk. Hell lets broadbrush like its usually done, why don't we just say the whole Donbass region is full of scammers. Now I'm an expert.
Just because a woman comes on here doesn't give her one iota of credibility. Just because she's female doesn't give her autonomous perspective of the female mentality of all women of eastern europe. Especially when she has an agenda. When I first started my search, I did rely on the perspective of a wonderful lady that posts here from time to time. She helped me immensely, and for that I will be forever grateful. She gave me insight into her country's culture and social settings and she opined from time to time, on the distinct differences, and the funny thing she has no agenda here but to help others.Contrary to some others posts here.
Robin,
Please learn about 'canned' letters, that paragraph is 100% bullshit and seeing that the Black Sea gets a mention please tell me that you are not writing to ladies in Lugansk or Donetsk!