Olegnay I've kept it in PM's but it gets broadcasted here. Which is fine I have no problem saying what's on my mind, but I wanted to keep it off the boards. It's something that needs to get resolved. I will bring nothing up further on this in the forum.
nasfan6 Martin_FFC 06.03.2008 6:43:23 What's a matter Marty. Didn't want to throw that last PM on the board? I knew you wouldn't.
Now what is the excuse? I don't really care how old you are, how many times you've been to Ukraine
that's not the issue. If you are 49 you need to give up the alcohol and cigarettes, you're a tired looking 49. As you aways badger others, you're drifting away from the subject.Everything
I use here are you own words. I still remember the dossiers you kept on others here.
Remember Telling Glad what my email address was. Though you were wrong, you were documenting others posts. What's good for the goose is good for the
Gander. Don't try to sell me on the culture bullshit. You can save that for someone else to bullshit. I was around many Brits, a lively bunch as with the Irish don't have a problem with saying what's on their minds. Though Remember, you're not a Brit, you and your wife claim to be Europeans. Since you don't like your own homelads too much. Remember those are not my words but
yours.
Marty it's very cathartic to come clean. It will do your soul some good.
You've always tried to be better than others here. You always belittled those who
challenged you. You went as far as to post fake profiles on other sites. You
hounded and harassed others that didn't answer your questions.
I'm sorry Martin, I got it wrong.
My source I'll never reveal because, in contradiction to what you'll think, I consider myself a true Gentleman.
Profile's still a lie though if you'd be married, a fact which you've admitted in this very thread. Say now someone really likes you from reading it - wouldn't that be akin to scamming? Maybe, just maybe someone should blacklist you ......
Thunder,
I have purposely falsified that profile, even my D.O.B. has been put as one month wrong, so that it is not me representing 'a true' myself.
I am not replying to any responses, I could write to 100 ladies and not receive a single reply, does that mean that all those ladies are scammers? How can someone really like me if they've never communicated or met with me, they're merely looking at a picture and writings?
Vain,
Bearing in mind that I am not American, a green card is totally irrelevant.
My wife and I have discussed everything to the finest detail, she's in that much of a hurry to get a western passport that after 2+ years of being together, and 9+ months of marriage, she remains in Ukraine, working and supporting herself, whilst we work together solving some (Ukrainian) family issues.
Please do not typecast all relationships based on your own sorry experience(s), you have no focking idea what a strong bond my wife and I have, we truly are the best of friends, we take what we have between us very seriously and we have a lot of fun in the process.
Who's the loser, me with a loving wife and best friend or you, a bitter & twisted individual whose only want is to spread gloom and despondancy?
Seems to me you have forgotten your time lines again. 2+ years?
As of April-May 2004 you never stepped foot in Zaporozhye.
04-05-2004, 10:25 PM
MartinUK
Members Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 746
Hey,
Anyone here ever been to Zaporozhye in Ukraine (Mexican brothel owners excluded) and got anything to say about it.
I might be going there from Odessa on Friday of this week, if I go I'll be looking for an apartment in Zaporozhye also, anyone got any tips?
Thanking you
Senior Crony
__________________
Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind
9 Months of Marriage
Let’s revisit this post. You must have gotten Married during this time to make the dates work, in either way you were lying your ass off.
Makes me real curious to see when and if you are really married. By the Way Mexican Brothel owners, little bit of a racist statement isn’t it. I recall you accusing Izi of being racist about some Somalians killing some cops in the UK. What a Hypocrite. No Marty I promised some guys I would hound you to hell for the things you did to them. I never forget a promise. I know you will never produce evidence, you will use your excuse that your life is private(Private Lie) but when it something to brag about, you spew it all over these forums. You have no life, doubt if you have a wife, you are a keyboard clown. I would change my profile on
Send: 08.12.2004 2:50:43
Thanks Shaggy and others,
One thing that was pleasing, I received a couple of very ladylike replies to the effect 'thank you for your attention but please look for another lady'. I know all about the FSU culture but it is a long time since I've met such politeness on the internet!
Yep, I guess the scammers must be here as everywhere but like everywhere, if you're searching in the under 25, drop dead gorgeous category then you're at high risk with a decreasing risk the older the age and the lesser the looks.
Anyway, I'm in Ukraine 18 December until 03 January thus still hunting!
And Thunder,
I know how that apparent discrepency of some 6 years difference in age came about because another forum member, maybe a year (ish) ago, made a reference that I was 54 years of age because someone, that forum member did mention the identity 'nasfan' but I'm not pointing fingers, had gone digging for dirt on the internet and found a profile, aged 54, that they believed to be me.
Well based with the choice, am I in my 40's, as I am, or am I in my 50's as this random profile suggested, one or more persons immediately chose to believe the incorrect information and brand me a liar, much the same as they branded me a liar once I had made mention that I was married.
It seems to brand me a liar is more acceptable to some people than realising the truth however I do apreciate your, and your only, apology that you opted for the incorrect choice.
asfan6 Martin_FFC 06.03.2008 6:43:23 What's a matter Marty. Didn't want to throw that last PM on the board? I knew you wouldn't.
Now what is the excuse? I don't really care how old you are, how many times you've been to Ukraine
that's not the issue. If you are 49 you need to give up the alcohol and cigarettes, you're a tired looking 49. As you aways badger others, you're drifting away from the subject.Everything
I use here are you own words. I still remember the dossiers you kept on others here.
Remember Telling Glad what my email address was. Though you were wrong, you were documenting others posts. What's good for the goose is good for the
Gander. Don't try to sell me on the culture bullshit. You can save that for someone else to bullshit. I was around many Brits, a lively bunch as with the Irish don't have a problem with saying what's on their minds. Though Remember, you're not a Brit, you and your wife claim to be Europeans. Since you don't like your own homelads too much. Remember those are not my words but
yours.
Marty it's very cathartic to come clean. It will do your soul some good.
You've always tried to be better than others here. You always belittled those who
challenged you. You went as far as to post fake profiles on other sites. You
hounded and harassed others that didn't answer your questions.
Have a great day Liar.
Married my ass.
nasfan6 Martin_FFC 05.03.2008 22:47:35 Martin_UK
Member Send: 09.10.2005 11:01:56
Vain,
Bearing in mind that I am not American, a green card is totally irrelevant.
My wife and I have discussed everything to the finest detail, she's in that much of a hurry to get a western passport that after 2+ years of being together, and 9+ months of marriage, she remains in Ukraine, working and supporting herself, whilst we work together solving some (Ukrainian) family issues.
Please do not typecast all relationships based on your own sorry experience(s), you have no focking idea what a strong bond my wife and I have, we truly are the best of friends, we take what we have between us very seriously and we have a lot of fun in the process.
Who's the loser, me with a loving wife and best friend or you, a bitter & twisted individual whose only want is to spread gloom and despondancy?
Seems to me you have forgotten your time lines again. 2+ years?
As of April-May 2004 you never stepped foot in Zaporozhye.
04-05-2004, 10:25 PM
MartinUK
Members Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 746
Hey,
Anyone here ever been to Zaporozhye in Ukraine (Mexican brothel owners excluded) and got anything to say about it.
I might be going there from Odessa on Friday of this week, if I go I'll be looking for an apartment in Zaporozhye also, anyone got any tips?
Thanking you
Senior Crony
__________________
Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind
9 Months of Marriage
Let’s revisit this post. You must have gotten Married during this time to make the dates work, in either way you were lying your ass off.
Makes me real curious to see when and if you are really married. By the Way Mexican Brothel owners, little bit of a racist statement isn’t it. I recall you accusing Izi of being racist about some Somalians killing some cops in the UK. What a Hypocrite. No Marty I promised some guys I would hound you to hell for the things you did to them. I never forget a promise. I know you will never produce evidence, you will use your excuse that your life is private(Private Lie) but when it something to brag about, you spew it all over these forums. You have no life, doubt if you have a wife, you are a keyboard clown. I would change my profile on
Send: 08.12.2004 2:50:43
Thanks Shaggy and others,
One thing that was pleasing, I received a couple of very ladylike replies to the effect 'thank you for your attention but please look for another lady'. I know all about the FSU culture but it is a long time since I've met such politeness on the internet!
Yep, I guess the scammers must be here as everywhere but like everywhere, if you're searching in the under 25, drop dead gorgeous category then you're at high risk with a decreasing risk the older the age and the lesser the looks.
Anyway, I'm in Ukraine 18 December until 03 January thus still hunting!
Thanks again guys
You can't produce what you don't have. You have fabricated a whole life here, the only problem you thought most would go away, except this one Stubborn Irishman who doesn't take lightly his friends being insulted by a common puke like you. You need to change the lie on http://www.freepersonals.ru/showProfile.da?id=273791, You're a pathetic liar there also, you claim not to smoke and drink, but you're always buying duty free cigarettes and on the piss all the time. Now that's truly a sad life. I never had to get drunk to go visit my wife and I had a hell of a lot longer flight. You are such a loser.
nasfan6 Martin_FFC 05.03.2008 21:28:32 You haven't disproved one thing. You have obfuscated all the way. You can run but you can't hide forever Marty. I still wonder what the near future means 1,2,3 years. Just like my many times.
You also know you lied here saying you never posted Nors Profile on a gay site.
Let this remind you.
Hi Nor, I would have responded to your post online but your
> thread was deleted and I'm guessing that you are not free to post any
> longer so please excuse this email but if this may be the final
> communication between us then I'd like to clear some air whilst
> setting th
Londonderry is a county idiot. Though I wouldn't expect you to know much about the history of Londonderry. Better google it first. I made reference I had family that emigrated from Londonderry.
The only profile I've seen of you is the one you currently have in Place on www.freepersonals.com. When it was discovered you immediately pulled it down.Remember the comment about the lion cub, is it real? It is the same one as now, except you pulled the picture of the lion cub so you would not expose yourself. You're supposedly the same age as me, boy you are a tired sickly looking 49. Though knowing your MO and photoshop is a great tool, I just wonder how much of that is real.
I still for the life of me cannot believe that someone would use you for a market research.A married guy posing as a single man, that is out and out fraudulent. Now I know why you didn't get anywhere on fiance.com. I know why these ladies wouldn't meet with you. Hence this great post in another forum.
Posted by MartinUK
09/09/2006 at 3:34 PM
I have taken the time to monitor the website fiance.com for some 18 months and am under no shadow of a doubt that there is corruption within.
They claim to 'screen' every lady on their site but that is a lie, they have very, very few ladies that admit to having their own email address, fiance.com claims 'unlimited and unedited emails however one can only send and receive emails if the lady chooses to divulge her address.
Atleast 95% of the ladies are listed through affiliate agencies and, yes, fiance.com pay these agencies to generate online letters, not private emails, and one can spend $$$ month after month after month and still one may not have the laidies email addresses or other contact information.
Also, I found, the ladies would write their seriosness towards meeting one but try to arrange a face to face meeting, the lady would keep the letter generating going right until one or two days before the supposed meeting before cancelling.
And then fiance.com has it's forum but EVERY post has to be approved by the moderators before it, if ever, goes live and many post do not. Fiance.com is like living in a 'police state', as long as you pay a monthly subsciption whilst keeping you mouth shut then all is fine but dare to suggest any corruption on the part of fiance.com then you're out on your ear and your IP is blocked.
Do they admit to having had any scammers listed, just check out fiance.com for yourself, no blacklist, no scammers, no nothing but over the past 18 months they have had plenty.
Are their ladies listed first hand, no, simple to establish this by running the names thru a search engine, fiance.com are simply marketing other agencies 'products' and charging $$$ per month for it.
Finally, they claim not to edit emails, except that they're not emails, they're online communications, well that's another lie and as soon as I politely raised this point today my IP was blocked.
I would have liked to have kept my research going but with a blocked IP I find now is an appropriate time to make my findings public.
Fiance.com , I wouldn't go as far to say it is a scam, but it is corrupt and they do list scammers and/or professional daters and beware of subscribing my credit card, they continued to take money from my card and I had to cancel the card.
You couldn't monitor an outhouse. If it's such a police state why have you aggrevated the hell out of many people and hang around here. Everyone thinks your a joke. You've made it an agenda to stay here.
Nope, Nasfan was never my source for your age, it is someone quite different. But I also never break a promise, however think it wise to take that blame very much off Nasfan - herewith.
Is boring repetition ad infinitum your newest pollution-trick now? It's like a little kid, when upset and rendered helpless they throw a tantrum.
What's your age again?
Since you want to spam other threads Marty and I keep it here or in PM which is the way it is supposed to be done. You've been caught in a series of lies just by your own posts. You've littered other threads with your copy and paste which is your MO along with posting false profiles of other members on other sites and outright attacking moderators here.
Since you brought up monitoring this website, how could you do that, you ended your membership early because, well you would have had to been married in Jan of 2005 so that would have given you about one month and not 18 months. You've went out of your way to harass the moderators because of your idiotic diatribes here. I mean were so many other members wrong, I've only seen one guy come to your defense and that was Wtrav02. You talk about dollars a month? what did you have invested 58 dollars maybe? Or is it that you so damned cheap that the only place is on a freepersonals site?
I know without a doubt you have a profile up, you thought it had died down enough so no one would catch you. You left the lion cub out of it, because older members would remember your ridiculous post on that subject.
Your exposed as a liar, the same type of liar you attacked Toad as being, you attacked Nor for supporting Toad and kept after him and bullying him. I will keep the pressure on you until you snap like you usually do.
Sending a PM in a forum like this isn't spamming you fool! So now instead of trying to keep it off the boards I won't waste my time in PM's. I will keep it in this thread. Next one coming up, will be some great reading. The kind of reading that will probably lead up to one of your pathetic poems or songs.
Thunder, thanks you don't have to defend me in anyway. He can blame me for anything, he tries to obfuscate everything. I also will keep it up since he's insulted my wife on a few a occasions, which in all the time of our disputes I have done. I did make a comment if he was really married I felt sorry for his wife.
Anyone knows who has a credit card, they don't have to cancel a card, hell if you feel the charge is incorrect or invalid all you have to do is call your credit card company and they will debit back the person making the charge. Just another imbellishment to make Fiance.com look bad.
When I cancelled my subscription with Fiance.com it was done immediately and without hassle. Makes me wonder what the continual charge if there was one was for. Maybe someone trying to shake down Fiance.com for some free time on their site. That wouldn't surprise me at all.
I never had an issue with this company whether it was with the website or their Flamingo service. At the time their service for the value was great, if you spent 400 a year for unlimited communications it is a far cry less than you would spend with sites with higher prices and pay per letter sites.
Also the silly charge is they pay agencys to generate letters. Really what point would that suffice. Hell they pay a discounted price for agency translations, that's why the agency that was translating my communications complained to me for writing everyday because they were paid little by Fiance.com for translations. Another silly accusation. There is no benefit for agencys sending continuous letters to a guy because the translation cost is not to their benefit. The author of this must have went on the cheap with fiance.com and wasn't a VIP member which is the best value.
Why would fiance.com need a blacklist? There are plenty already on the internet, some legitimate others not so. Whenever a situation arose they handled it quickly, actually eliminating some agencys completely and not just the woman.
Some just don't get the message when they block your IP they are telling you something. Then again, some come back to brag that they have many IP's and you cannot block what they want to post.
Also one with common sense would know that a site this large will have an occasional scammer come in. It's just the law of averages. Especially using affiliate agencys. Though many sites use profiles from other agencys to generate business, it kind of like multiple listing. Since some here are such google pilots, they would know if they were smart that positioning is critical on google to get your ads in front of the consumer. Does Fiance have some flaws, sure but to accuse them of corruption is a bit slanderous at best. I'm always suspect of the person claiming all others lie and they are beyond reproach. Ones claiming moral dignity is usually trying to endow an idiot with dignity.
I was successful using Fiance.com, overall its about as good as it gets. I had subscribed to a couple of other FSU sites, but found this to be the best in overall cost in communications. If your worried about using this as a form of proof of relationship, well your better off providing phone records that will prove more than emails ever would.
It is too bad there is not someplace you two could meet at and just kick the slats clear out of each other and leave the forum calm again. And I do appreciate your efforts to us PMs instead of the forum Nasfan. I know there are good members on this forum who are reluctant to put a post up because they do not want to put up with the hassle of a character attack.
A small point as to canceling the credit card, I use a visa debit card and have had two instances where unauthorized charges have been made to it. Both times it was required that the card be destroyed and a new one (different number) be issued when the charges were reversed. This may be a requirement of the bank my debit account is in but it is necessary with my card.
I have no idea what you are arguing about and polluting forum.
I do not want to read it anyway. I know forum members do not care about your arguments. Use PM.