My goodness Mini even if you are just a sex tourist give them some respect. If they gave you an evening of pleasure there is no reason to jump up and say they are stupid to be looking for love.
The younger Ukrainian girls might be easy to charm to get the knickers off to have a session in the hay, theres a Ukrainian made television show ( translated to English ) on my Pay T.V satellite called "Naked and Funny"...it features naked comedy skits like candid camera where unsuspecting Ukrainian men and some women are caught and filmed by hidden camera in funny situations where there is a young pretty Ukrainian model girl with nice tits and body whose clothes accidently fall off in front of the victims to reveal bare naked tits you would die for and the reactions of the men ( one such situation ),other things such as deliberate upskirts, changing panties in front of men ect. the young models are hot, are all Ukraine girls in there 20s like this, the "naked and funny" girls reminded me of Irina, she would have a goddess body like that naked..I was stupid, I went for the body and the F factor like most men but I think once you get into your 40s, you get more horny and want the younger women..thats where we make mistakes and try to go for unrealistic things.
Aussie
That "Naked & Funny" was my favourite TV show when in Kiev last 2 months. It showed every Friday night at 10.15. My wife’s daughter downloaded 2006 - 2007 episodes and I brought back to NZ. Have converted them into DVD format and my mates love it. Seen nothing like it b4, and could you imagine getting away with shows like that in our countries ??????
Its well done and good humour - both men and women like it, not seedy. But I do think most of those chicks you will probably find are on the game in Odessa - where its filmed.
cheers
Peter
Respect is given where it's deserved. My Russian gal I met in Moscow is a decent lady and I and treat her like a lady. That one is a "keeper" and I'll return in a few months to see her again. You can spot the good ones a mile away if you know what to look for.
Kiev is different... most of these women all have a "game on" they are schooled in scamming and most of them have an agenda. I remember watching the old hippy guy with a pony tail fill out fiancé visa paperwork with the 23 year old babe who obviously only wanted to get to the USA. I watched as the 45 year old 320 pound man spent all his money on the beautiful 28 year old scammer who was also trying to get to the USA. It was funny watching her trying to put her arms around his waist to show her affection for him. I witnessed the dating scams for expensive nice dinners and always the cab fare back home was requested at the beginning of the date (they pocket this and use the Metro to make a few bucks). I estimate that 30% to 40% of the good looking younger women are part time prostitutes. There is a river boat dance club that they frequent on week nights to supplement their income that is only for the amateurs. Shoot… I was almost scammed, had one gal that tried to steal my $450 pocket translator right in front of me, I should of kicked her ass but being in a foreign country I let her off.
Bottom line... respect is given when it is deserved. It's best to use them before they use us. Anyone that goes to Kiev or Odessa... keep your eyes open and use this valuable information, you will start with the upper hand by knowing they are almost always attempting a scam. Use them before they use you. Laugh and party with them then leave them the next day for the next adventure! I think China is next for me <smile>.
Cooper...it was interesting reading your second paragraph. I still think guys and girls are using each other. These old/overweight guys get the opportunity to spend some time with gorgeous young girls and girls get catered to with dinner and drinks..who loses??? If guys are dumb enough to think they have enticed a lady with nothing but 'hopefully' a better life, it is a 'you' problem, if they get taken to the cleaners it is their own fault. It's all taking some responsibility.
What you were also scammed by a girl stealing???? That is NOT a scam, merely stealing or robbery.
Is a burglar a scammmer?
To me a scam is a fraudulent business to get money through lies. If a girl meets you, has dinner with you, you take her shopping, spends the day with you.....are not scams...I am sure the guy is getting something out of it or has choice what to do.
MC
China !!!!!
My wife and I are still getting over our 20 hours flying with them on our return from Kiev last month.
Dont be sucked in by the pretty ones you are seeing on the Olympics handing out the medals.
No - not a nice thought - China - no. You seen them eat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you all see we - NZ got a GOLD !!!!!!!!
Our two wonder girls (Twins) did it again 4us !!!!!!!
Little crackers they are :-))
Maxi...boy can I be first to congratulate you on a gold medal...medal count is UP to what 5? ...with 80% of medals in rowing, must be a highly used travel in NZ to get off island.:))))
Beemer
I just found out we have TWO Golds
Another women - she could kill most men - very powerful women - won gold in the shot putt
Yea - I do a lot of rowing - only cause I have to. (live in boat access only place)
NZ had a good night. Beat South Africa 19 - 0 in SA in Rugby also !!!!!!!!
great results alright. Beating SA at home and keeping them scoreless should be worth at least 2 golds. I saw the shot putter, shes build like a brick sh*t house but its put us on the table.
"I am sure in myself that I would never love someone else than her or do the things I would do for her"
We all feel the same at times, but love is a two-way highway, it's not enough for you to love someone if you're not loved back. And most people love again, even though they once thought they would never be able to love anyone else ever again.
Her being unhappy all the time... doesn't sound like there is much shared love there.
I feel that you're wasting your time...